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Which degrees do you think will disappear with the fee increase?

59 replies

stillenacht · 29/01/2011 17:37

or even which unis...part of me thinks there are too many pointless degrees being taken at the moment and maybe this will prioritise those that are truly 'valuable' (but what quanitifies 'vaulable' anyway?)

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PenguinArmy · 29/01/2011 18:23

Those skills can be brought in any degree though. It's down to how individual institutions run their programs, not the subject involved.

Bonkerz · 29/01/2011 18:24

Katymac, the plan for an EYP/degree qualified EY member in all setting by 2015 has actually been scrapped! That in itself will see a drop in the need for EY degrees. Im actually 2 years in to my foundation degree and its only costing £3k in total.

KatyMac · 29/01/2011 18:27

When did they drop it (over half way through my degree damn) - no-one tells me anything

Mine isn't costing that either, but come the fee rise it will be very expensive

southeastastra · 29/01/2011 18:31

surely it's gotta be worth having rather than no!

noddyholder · 29/01/2011 18:35

Agree with miggsie.

NeatSoda · 29/01/2011 18:36

Degrees like Medieval Literal won't disappear, they'll just be taken by older 'career breakers' or retirees.

The ones that'll go are pseudo-vocational ones like Hotel and Catering that you can get up to speed in just by working in the industry.

purepurple · 29/01/2011 18:36

katymac, they haven't quite made up their minds, as I keep reading conflicting things

chidren's minister

report by labour mp commissioned by government
This is why I am doing the degree, apart from doing it for myself, because a better qualified early years workforce has huge benefits for children's futures and hence the whole of society.

KatyMac · 29/01/2011 18:38

I'm doing systems & Management which I was going to top up with an EYP

Learning is never wasted

NeatSoda · 29/01/2011 18:42

I agree learning is never wasted. It's just that I don't agree that all learning should be paid for by people who are out working.

purepurple · 29/01/2011 18:44

Learning is never wasted, you are right.

stillenacht · 29/01/2011 18:51

It depends what that is I think though...if its quasi learning...teaching you stuff you already know but intellectualising it for the sake of it.

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KatyMac · 29/01/2011 18:56

Well I'm doing 2 OU courses; 1 is easy & I can't get motivated the other is impossible & I really enjoy it

onimolap · 29/01/2011 19:12

Here's a link to the UCAS page which lists all courses on offer for Sept 2011 start.

I've only browsed a bit, but I can't see degrees in things like aromatherapy and puppetry surviving (good though it may be to have people in society adept at either), and I think some of the more bizarrely combined degrees may vanish too.

basildonbond · 29/01/2011 19:35

I suspect all the degrees which at one time would have been apprenticeships will disappear - a friend's ds was toying with the idea of a degree in surfboard technology a couple of years back - now that's something that should never have been a degree as the skills learned would be better learned on the job.

A lot of the pseudo-vocational degrees will vanish too - I predict a big drop in the number of media studies, forensic science etc courses being offered

I also think that some of the less academic former polys will go to the wall.

Purely intellectual subjects at Oxbridge/Russell Group unis will be fine as the kudos gained from having that on your CV will be worth £27,000 in the end

eatyourveg · 30/01/2011 09:29

dd of a work colleague recently sent off her ucas form for a BEd primary and 3 institutions have got back to her saying they will no longer be offering the course some September.

Think the government are wanting people to go via the PGCE train on the job route instead

mummytime · 30/01/2011 09:44

The government hasn't yet decided how many teachers it wants to train next year. Last I heard no institutions know how many students are going to be funded, and that includes PGCE.

stillenacht · 30/01/2011 09:45

Interesting eatyourveg - I can't really understand why they are phasing out the BEd for primary phase as surely it makes more sense to have that than a PGCE I think - with all the different disciplines that need to be covered- 3 years would ensure they are covered in depth surely? I can sort of understand why they would phase out a BEd in Secondary education as the content of the actual subject knowledge post BEd may not be strong enough as that of a graduate in the subject alone.

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stillenacht · 30/01/2011 09:46

I am a PGCE mentor and the intake for the institution I work for has gone down from 19 places last year to 14 this year...not sure about next year.

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stillenacht · 30/01/2011 09:47

Basildonbond- I agree and think psychology and business may be added to your list.

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Hatterbox · 30/01/2011 14:17

I doubt psychology is going to disappear, given the fact that it's essential for people who wish to be clinical psychologists, and we need those!

stillenacht · 30/01/2011 15:02

Do we Hatterbox? How many psychology grads become clinical psychologists - just look at the problem they have in France - will find link now here

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mrz · 30/01/2011 15:08

There is a huge shortage of Educational Psychologists around the country stillenacht

stillenacht · 30/01/2011 15:11

I think we should ship them in from France then.

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stillenacht · 30/01/2011 15:12

(I know I am being a bit facetious thoughWink)

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purepurple · 30/01/2011 15:33

mrz, interesting, I would love to be an eduactional psychologist < off to research >