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Joined-up writing from Reception, does your school do this?

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fqueenzebra · 30/09/2005 22:56

DS1's school basically teaches them to write in a sort of tails both sides of the letter way, which (school reckons) will help them learn to do full-blown cursive writing more easily at a later age.

DH & I don't like it. We virtually never use cursive writing; scientists don't. And I'm American, where I was taught that cursive was the only "correct" way to write, but I always had messy writing. I can't believe that Jolly Phonics reckons that cursive is somehow better because it "improves better spelling" (HOW does that work??). Only people with naturally good writing do cursive voluntarily, I reckon. Books -- and computer text, like what I'm writing now, is plain "printing" text. So what is the value of cursive text? It looks very odd when DS1's teacher writes that way, and he doesnt' get much practise reading it because anything else he has to read, like his homework sheets, etc., are all in simple typeface!!

I suppose I'm having a bit of a rant, just wondered what your school does....

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moozoboozo · 30/09/2005 23:02

I used to be an infant teacher where they did cursive writing from reception.

It's all a load of crap IMO

ScummyMummy · 30/09/2005 23:03

My sons' school is trying currently to change to teaching cursive from day 1. I can't remember why in detail , though they did send home a letter explaining their rationale. I think the main thing was something to do with it being easier/faster for them to get their thoughts down on paper as they occured?

mumbee · 30/09/2005 23:08

Dd is learning joined up and she is in year2. We do not like it for one reason mainly you can not read there writing it is very messy not consistent spacing or sizeing of letters let's get that right first. Personnal I did not learn joined up until secondary school I did not have tidy enough writing until then what do others think are they childrens writting tidy enough for joined up or is it this culture of not children but robots before 16 yrs old?

roisin · 30/09/2005 23:10

They used to get more points in SATs (yr2) if they wrote cursive ... I think that's changed now though.

soapbox · 30/09/2005 23:11

My DCs' school also does cursive from reception and I think its crap too

roisin · 30/09/2005 23:12

That was a tongue-in-cheek comment btw; cynical conjecture on the possible motivation of some schools

ScummyMummy · 30/09/2005 23:17

roisin. Your foray into education has turned you into a cynic in record time!

Medea · 30/09/2005 23:20

Funny you mention this. . .a friend of mine, who sent her son to a fancy private school in London last year (but has since returned to public school in the US), was telling me the same thing. . .that her son learned cursive from reception. He & his classmates didn't really do that well with cursive, apparently, so the teacher gave it up mid-way through the year. . .which speaks well for her flexibility. Anyway, I'm American too, and in a totally different field, but no one uses cursive in my field either--I mean, I find that no one uses cursive full stop! And this business about the spelling improvement makes no sense either, of course. I wouldn't love it if my kid were learning cursive from reception, but I probably wouldn't get het up either. ..I think as long as they learn decent penmanship and to write legibly (as opposed to me, who has the handwriting of a psychotic person!) I'd be pleased enough.

finn2 · 01/10/2005 00:18

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE CHILL OUT ABOUT yr kids education, most european countries start formal education at 6. If you are a literate, bright family your kids will be fine. stop this pressure to have genius kids aged 7. research shows that kids need play before formal learning, YOU WILL DAMAGE THEM IF YOU PRESSURE THEM WHEN THEY ARE NOT READY!

fqueenzebra · 01/10/2005 20:54

Not really sure what you're on about, Finn2....
thanks for the replies from others. Glad to hear that we aren't the only skeptics!! My mother had beautiful cursive writing but mine only became legible when I reverted to "printing" as an adult, have never looked back (still use cursive to sign my name, though). In this modern age of computers and word processing everywhere, Why do they teach cursive handwriting at all?

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patch · 02/10/2005 17:04

At dd's school they teach cursive from day one in reception (not sure about the pre-reception as she only started in reception). Her writing is not brilliant, but at least we know the start and end of words - she has been taught to do a gap the size of the width of her small finger between words. Most of the problem with her writing is keeping on a line - it goes all over the place - so print or cursive would not make a difference.

Her school said that they used it from the start as most people find it easier to write quicker joined up and the is no reason to learn one method of writing and then have to learn another method in a few year getting ready for entrance exams etc for secondary school. Dd's school does not do STATs so therefore this would not have been a factor for them.

hallowcarla · 02/10/2005 17:09

Good grief, in Reception??? My dd2's in Y1 now, and has plenty of trouble making out ordinary letters, thank you!

Is it a posh, fee-paying school, btw?

LIZS · 02/10/2005 17:16

Ours are supposed to do cursive from Reception but are focussing on Jolly Phonics first.

ds has just joined the same school at 7 1/2 with printing derived from one year of precursive (UK trained teacher) and one year D'Nealian (Canadian trained teacher) and even after just 4 weeks his writing and attempts to join up have improved significantly. Very spidery but getting there !

KBear · 02/10/2005 17:17

My DD's in Yr 2. The school has changed it's system this year and sent a note home saying that from now on they have to use cursive handwriting. All well and good if you're taught like this in reception but a surely this will put back the children that have spent two years learning to write print. She is moving on to cursive writing naturally as she writes endlessly but I HATE the curl before the first letter of a word. Completely pointless IMHO. Handwriting develops with time doesn't it? And as so many children read typeface in books I think it might confuse some.

Wonder what the teachers think - I expect one will be along shortly.

And Finn2 - we don't need to chill, we're not stressing, this is a conversation and comparison between our children.

Twiglett · 02/10/2005 17:18

DS's school has adopted Jolly Phonics this year too and they are being taught letters with cursive bits to help in joined up writing.

I don't really mind either way to be honest.

The JP site says there is research that proves it helps with blah and bloo and blah-de-blah but all I know is DS is enjoying the actions and the reading and the writing and that's good enough for me

Gobbledispook · 02/10/2005 17:30

Eh? Why is joined up writing crap?

I would find it very difficult to write without joining up. Am I missing something?

cod · 02/10/2005 17:31

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cod · 02/10/2005 17:33

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LIZS · 02/10/2005 17:33

Like the idea of exercises - ds coudl probably do with that as he finds any writing physically hard work. Will look it up ...

cod · 02/10/2005 17:34

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LIZS · 02/10/2005 17:35

no I can't find anything on Goggle any pointers from teachers ?

cod · 02/10/2005 17:36

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RTKangaMummy · 02/10/2005 17:38

DS school does cursive writing

IMHO it helps spelling cos letters join together to form word and make a pattern