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Can anyone tell me how state run boarding schools work please? Do the kids board for free?

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DrNortherner · 08/10/2010 23:56

Not considering it at all, just am very curious.

Thanks

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GrimmaTheNome · 09/10/2010 00:00

I think you pay for boarding but not tuition eg [http://www.lrgs.org.uk/boarding here]]

GrimmaTheNome · 09/10/2010 00:01

sorry missed bracket here

DrNortherner · 09/10/2010 00:04

Oh I see. I looked on the Ripon Grammer site which did not mention a fee at all.

That Lancatser one is boys only, wonder how they can do that when it's state funded?

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WhyAyeButterPie · 09/10/2010 00:08

There are loads of single sex state schools.

DrNortherner · 09/10/2010 00:09

Are there?! Blimey, I need to brush up.

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GrimmaTheNome · 09/10/2010 00:11

There's a Lancaster Girls too - that doesn't board though. I don't know if single-sex state schools are always paired like this.

WhyAyeButterPie · 09/10/2010 00:14

I know quite a few people who went to that school, and there is Hutton boys and Penwortham girls nearby too.

Is it maybe a Lancashire thing then?

DancingHippoOnAcid · 09/10/2010 00:30

Isn't Hutton coed now? Went there an embarassingly long time ago when they only had girls in 6th form, but I was sure they started admitting girls to lower school soon after I left.

Though neither Hutton of Penwortham Girls are boarding.

The single sex schools round here seem to be paired also, so not just a Lancashire thing.

I guess it makes sense, otherwise would have an imbalance in provision for one sex.

GrimmaTheNome · 09/10/2010 00:40

I'm pretty sure Hutton is still all boys - one of DDs classmates went there.

WhyAyeButterPie · 09/10/2010 00:41

As far as I know (and I doubt I wouldn't have heard, but I could be wrong) Hutton is still only allowing girls in 6th form. I know my 17 year old sister considered going there for sixth form, but didn't on the basis of it being a "weird" school, :)

I think the single sex places are very popular with Muslims, so maybe that is why there seem to be so many in Lancashire.

But, as all us Lostock Hall kids know, penny girls and hutton are full of kids who are, like, totally GAY and stuff. EVERYONE knows that...Hmm

Ah, the world of South Ribble secondary education...the memories...

GrimmaTheNome · 09/10/2010 00:50

Hutton is CofE, and the lancaster grammars predate immigration so I don't think thats anything to do with it. They are popular because they are good schools, that simple.

LacksDaisies · 09/10/2010 00:53

state run boarding schools?

where do I sign?

WhyAyeButterPie · 09/10/2010 01:04

I mean nowadays- I know penny girls has a higher than average Muslim population, especially considering how white penwortham itself is, and Newman college has more than usual Muslim girls, partly due to it being in Avenham, but also because it is Catholic and in the eyes of both the college and the pupils, any religeon is better than none.

This is all anecdotal, obviously, but we had one not-very-enthusiastically-muslim girl in my year at Lostock Hall, and my friend who was at Penny Girls had at least a third of her year group wearing headscarves etc. This is despite them being in almost the same town (well, the next village up, really)

Same when I went on to Newman, and my friend went on to Runshaw, only in reverse.

(and I realise this makes no sense to anyone outside the PR postcode area...)

WhyAyeButterPie · 09/10/2010 01:11

Although, continuing in the same, not very scientific vein, the boys/men I know who went to Lancaster and Hutton are all your stereotypical rugby playing, white, suburban, grammar school boys. So not sure what that proves at all.

Hutton does have a very good reputation - my uncle went there and there was lots of Latin and so on. Penny girls, not so much. My mum went to look round for my youngest sister and they told her that, you know, these days girls CAN do things like woodwork. The surprise on the teacher's face got my sister sent to the nice reliable co-ed comp, same as the rest of us :o

RustyBear · 09/10/2010 01:12

Reading has two state grammars- Reading School for boys, which has a few boarders and Kendrick for girls which doesn't have boarders.

At Reading School, which DS went to (though he didn't board) you can have full boarding or weekly boarding, where you go home for weekends, which is cheaper. You pay for board, not for tuition.

Novusleaf · 09/10/2010 01:15

Our local secondary has a boarding house for about 80. I think you pay for the boarding element only. Mostly forces kids I think, other ex-pat workers, and a few overseas. I think it's the only one in our county.

There are quite a few single sex state schools, mostly grammars, e.g. in Reading. There was a pair of single sex comps in Southampton, but I think they were recently combined. Think it's all over England. Have never come across single sex state schools in Scotland.

spanieleyes · 09/10/2010 08:48

Slightly off tangent to the original post but my town has two grammar schools, one for boys and one for girls, and two secondary schools, again one for boys and one for girls. If you want mixed sex education, you have to go out of town.

mankyscotslass · 09/10/2010 08:48

I'm in Tameside, and we have a few secndary schools that are single sex.

Am very tempted this morning by the state boarding school idea.

DancingHippoOnAcid · 09/10/2010 10:03

Oh, maybe I was misinformed about Hutton then. Maybe going coed was considered but never happened.

All my mates went to either Hutton or Penwortham for 6th form. It was a bit wierd at Hutton to be honest, especially if you were a girl - the teachers seemed a bit scared of us! Grin

Had very good academic reputation locally, lots of contemporaries went to Oxbridge and medical school, etc.

Penwortham girls always seemed to have a bit of a chip on their shoulder about Huuton 6th form girls - calling us ugly dykes etc (nice) - some of them were a bit scary TBH!

Atmosphere was actually similar to some private boys schools I have seen.

In hindsight, I think I would have had a better 6th form experience at one of the 6th form colleges.

But this is all from experience from 25 years ago - probably completely different now.

mumoverseas · 09/10/2010 11:28

DC2 goes to a state boarding school as a full boarder. It is MUCH cheaper than other boarding schools, around 4k a term as opposed to approximately 9k a term at private boarding schools. There are quite a lot of 'forces' DC and also overseas students but quite a few of the DC who full board live an hour or so from the school so board during the week.
They are in the process of changing the 'day boarders' status to 'flexiboarding'. Day pupils can be dropped of at the school early for breakfast and stay for tea, after school activities and prep. The new 'flexiboarding' status allows for them to stay a set amount of days per term with the option of paying for additional days if needed. Very handy for parents who work long hours or sometimes work away. I think day pupils pay around 1k a term.

Hope this helps

oshgosh · 09/10/2010 12:17

State boarding schools are State schools [d'oh emoticon] so the education is free, like it is at any State school. You only pay for the boarding aspect so it is much cheaper than independent schools where you pay for board and education.
My DS is a day boy so I get a 'discount' because he doesn't stay overnight. For the fee, he gets all the fantastic facilities and three meals a day.
It's a comp, not a grammar.

ruddynorah · 09/10/2010 12:24

My secondary school had boarders. It's Dallam school in south cumbria. Most boarders were kids with military parents or parents working in the middle east. An otherwise entirely normal school but some kids slept there too. I gather it's Ofsted outstanding now.

LIZS · 09/10/2010 12:35

Our local one (co-ed) charges between 1k+ (Day) and 4k (Full Boarding) approx per term. Day places are very oversubscribed and have usual intakes are at Year 3, Year 7 and 6th form.

mumoverseas · 09/10/2010 12:48

and a jolly good school it is too Wink

Mum72 · 09/10/2010 13:47

Here is the state Boarding school info site for anyones info

www.sbsa.org.uk/