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Oh I am really cross! Please help me create appropriate feedback.

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crazyloon1 · 12/12/2008 16:47

Or tell me if I am being a dick, but honestly I don't think I am.

I bought an item last week. I did buy it now despite there being the offer facility - it was in good condition. I sent the seller a pleasant message advising how to pack it as it was potentially vulnerable in the post and I'm quite experienced at this so sent her some tips. I had no response.
The item arrived a few days later. It was packed really badly - a sort of misinterpretation of what I had suggested, if you like, but obviously wasn't going to make it and of course it was bashed.
The damage was not dire, ie it was useable but not very good to look at - you'd have to have half of it facing the wall (twas a lampshade) and so I sent an email saying it was bashed and I didn't carry any hard feelings as she had 'obviously tried her best' but please could we arrange a partial refund or a return.
She said 'Of course, I will refund you when it comes back including return postage costs' which I thought was very kind, but then I asked her what she would consider a fair partial refund if I kept it. I told her I could still use it but wouldn't want to have paid that much for a damaged item.

She said how about £15 (I paid 20 inc post) which I thought was very generous, and agreed to - however it didn't happen for a couple of days so I messaged again, then realised that she meant she would keep 15 and refund 5. So I said I had misunderstood and asked for her address to return it to instead. I offered to pay return postage as well which seemed fair.
I got a very snotty email back saying basically get stuffed - in a polite, prim manner - and that I had changed my mind so no, it was no returns and she had said that on her listing. I said it didn't matter, that was purely for people who changed their minds about an item, not who received something bashed to bits.
She said £5 or nothing, so I said I was sorry it had come to this, and opened a dispute today suggesting a partial refund of £12 - she refused and suggested £9.93 so I decided that was better than a kick in the teeth and at least I didn't have to package it again.
She sent a really horrid comment though with the refund. It said 'I suggest you lower your expectations in future and buy from a recognised retailer'
I mean I thought if something was described as good and arrived in a state, that wasn't really fair...but then some people are just weird.
I have got my part refund and a crappy bashed lampshade. Now I have the honour of leaving her feedback, and I can't get it down to 60 characters....please help me! She can't neg me as a seller, but do I leave neutral or neg? She won't be getting a positive for sure.

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crazyloon1 · 12/12/2008 17:39

Those are my usual criteria Meemar - except that usually if something goes wrong due to the seller's mucking up, and they try hard to fix it and apologise I would still give a positive. I very rarely leave neutral - have left several hundred feedback and only about 3 neg, and maybe one or two neutrals. It's rarely necessary to neg but in some cases it's appropriate.

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sarah573 · 12/12/2008 18:24

Im afraid it sounds to me like there has been fault on both sides here.

I would be mighty peed off if someone emailed me and told me how to pack something!!! It sounds to me like she has made a fair effort to pack it properly - it is not her fault that RM have jumped on it.

Having learnt that it has been damaged she offers you a refund including postage, which is very fair. You then say how much off if I keep it. In my book this is a 'no no' you either want it or you don't. She makes you an offer of a partial refund that you misunderstand and accept.

You then (some days later?) realise your mistake and turndown the partial refund. She then (having been very reasonable to this point) decides you are messing her around/trying it on and tells you to get stuffed. Remember she only has your word that the damage has occurred, and you are now asking for money back without even returning it.

You then open a dispute and a parital refund is proposed and accepted by you.

Yes it does sound like she has been a bit shirty with you, but it also sounds like this has been in response to actions from you which she has justifiably perceived as unreasonable.

crazyloon1 · 12/12/2008 19:12

Sarah, thankyou - you make sense in some ways - however a couple of things. I suggested the possible partial refund instead because I knew it would be a hassle to send it badck, for me and for her - she'd have to resell it etc - and she had been so nice that I felt it would be ok to just accept it and have a bit of the money back.

I agreed to her £15 on 5th Dec - she didn't even email for another 5 days despite my sending messages and when she did, she had instantly changed her mind and said 'it was sold as non returnable so you can have the £5 or nothing'.

I didn't expect a full refund and to keep it.

I think there was certainly confusion on both sides and I accept I was partially responsible for that - but at the end of the day she presumed I was up to no good and I gave her the benefit of the doubt until the very last. I guess she didn't trust me and/or couldn't be bothered.

Which is a shame as I have over 700 @ 100%positive and she has 6 at 85%.

It's a shame we couldn't resolve it without getting fed up with each other. I don't 100% blame her.

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southeastastra · 12/12/2008 19:21

maybe i wouldn't leave any feedback and mull it over for a while

southeastastra · 12/12/2008 19:27

as her feedback is so low she probably won't last long and get de registered. not worth getting a neg for imo

crazyloon1 · 12/12/2008 19:32

No you are right sea.

I think I was just cross about her little aside to me on the refund page. It really made me see red for a bit.

I did the neg earlier and now wish I hadn't, might ask to retract it. She can't neg me as she is seller.

Not sure what to think. Might send her link to this thread actually! No, no, talk me down man...bad idea!

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crazyloon1 · 12/12/2008 19:33

She said she wasn't going to sellon ebay again anyway after this. So I guess not much loss to her - but bad karma for me.

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southeastastra · 12/12/2008 19:36

i keep forgetting sellers can't send negs (seller myself!)

i'd leave it you've done it now

crazyloon1 · 12/12/2008 19:51

am seller too sea.

Have emailed her and said if she sends feedback revision request I will agree to it and it'll get pulled.

Feel better now...

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southeastastra · 12/12/2008 19:52

lol you can't leave it

crazyloon1 · 13/12/2008 07:26

Lol

Well I sent her the email
She sent the request back without a word of apology or anything (I apologised, it was a really nice email)

so I got it this morning and changed her fb, but not to positive, only to neutral, and left the comment.

I have to say I feel totally justified now and almost wished I hadn't bothered!

Never mind...thanks for all the talking to last night.

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