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Got a message today from a buyer

29 replies

saltire · 04/04/2007 12:51

Got this email (through my messages) from a buyer today

Hello
i have some problem with my paypal account ..i dont no why...anyway if tomorow im not able for payment, i send the money in other way,money order wire tranfer western union etc...sorry about this...
have nice day tks for all
regards

This is the second one, the first one said something about not being able to get into work to access their paypal account.
II've never heard of Western union or a money order wire transfer. Should i email him/her back and say that i just want paypal, or should I contact ebay?

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deasterjags · 04/04/2007 12:52

postal orders?

saltire · 04/04/2007 12:53

Sorry i should have said, the buyer is in Italy . I thought I'd said in the OP.

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fireflyfairy2 · 04/04/2007 12:53

I think it's a scam of some sort, have heard of it before but cannot remember all the details!!

SoupDreggon · 04/04/2007 12:54

Arent the wire transfer/western union ones often scams from Nigeria? What was the item?

aDad · 04/04/2007 12:56

Sounds dodgy. I know when people ask you to pay by wire transfer it is dodgy.

I'd probably insist on paypal, but I guess as long as you only send the item when you are sure the money is in your hands, what harm can it do?

saltire · 04/04/2007 12:57

The buyer has 100% feedback, and it's not all from the same person, like some of these dodgy message I get sent through ebay.

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aDad · 04/04/2007 12:57

I know I was nearly scammed by someone who said they were in Italy and wanted me at the last minute to pay for something by western union wire transfer.

SoupDreggon · 04/04/2007 12:58

I'm fairly certain a friend was scammed by someone in Italy too. She'd sold a necklace. Can't remember how the money failed to materialise though.

aDad · 04/04/2007 12:58

And in my case, they had nicked someone's eBay ID and history. I think they pick people with good feedback who have not made a transaction for a while, ie who might not notice their ID being stolen.

If you check in their history have they always been based in Italy?

saltire · 04/04/2007 13:02

Actually, he's in portugal, and the address for sending the items is in Italy. I have found his "me" page on ebay.

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aDad · 04/04/2007 13:04

Two different countries - another alarm bell is ringing.

Sorry I think you should insist on Paypal or probably just report.

kittypants · 04/04/2007 13:06

agree with adad.id report or atleast contact ebay and ask advice.

saltire · 04/04/2007 13:07

He's a photo journalist apparently! Is that just a posh word for Paparazzi?

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lou33 · 04/04/2007 13:08

paypal only

suejonez · 04/04/2007 13:10

but if he is paying you, and he transfers the money to western union you don;t have to send anything until you have picked up the money. I don;t think you have to give out detials for a western union transfer just pic kup the cash with a ref number and some ID

suejonez · 04/04/2007 13:11

wire transfer you would have to give him your bank details but I don;t think you do with Western Union

saltire · 04/04/2007 13:13

I've never heard of Western Union, what is it?

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stargate · 04/04/2007 13:14

am sure that ebay doesn't advocate the use of western union

glassslipper · 04/04/2007 13:15

if you specified paypal as the payment method and he cant pay that way then you can withdraw the sale.

suejonez · 04/04/2007 13:17

its a way of transferring money. The big problem with it is once you have sent money you can;t get it back again but if you are receiveing I'm not sure if there are any downsides. Its commonly uesd for people who don;t have bank accounts to send money to other countries

vimfuego · 04/04/2007 13:19

The Western Union scam works like this.

Buyer sends you a cheque which is for considerably more than the agreed amount, say it's £1600 for a £600 item.

Buyer apologises for the error and asks can you send the £1000 back? They might even just ask for part of it, eg. £800 by way of apology for the hassle.

They ask you to send the money by Western Union, which is a money transfer service designed for sending gifts of cash to people you know.

It sounds unusual so you check to see if the money has shown up in your bank account from the cheque. It is there, so you trot off to your nearest WU outlet (e.g. newsagent, off license, travel agent) and send the money.

Two weeks later you get a call from your bank. The cheque was a fake, they've deduced £1600 from your bank account, which is now heavily in the red, could you sort it out please? "But the money showed up in my account!" you say. "But that doesn't mean it has actually cleared," they reply, "we can reject a cheque many months after it has been paid in if we so choose". "Well you can whistle for the money! I'm closing my account!", you say. "We'll get the police involved then", your bank replies. And they do. You're now facing a forgery charge.

You run down to the Western Union outlet where you paid in the money. They tell you that the service is designed for sending money between friends and family, there is nothing that can be done to retrieve a payment once paid, and nothing more they can tell you about the person receiving the money.

suejonez · 04/04/2007 13:19

actually I have just checked ebay and they ban use of instant money transfers like western union ( for te proteciton of buyrs though not sellers) you can go back and tell him that.

sophiewd · 04/04/2007 13:23

We nearly got scammed like this earlier this year but it was for accommdation booked. I refused to do transfer until cheque had cleared and surprise sirprise it was stolen.

aDad · 04/04/2007 13:24

interesting vimfuego - I didn't know how it worked when they were posing as buyers. Very sly.

Do you know that from bitter experience?

kittypants · 04/04/2007 13:26

vimfuego
glad you explained it!thats horrible!

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