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If you were Ebay who would you side with here?

45 replies

SmilingandWaving · 21/05/2012 16:32

The item in dispute is this

The buyers case is this:

The seller classified this pushchair as being suitable from age 6 months+. I bought the chair for my grandson who has just turned 3. However, I found that the chair would not push and on looking into the make of chair that this is, found that it is only suitable up to a certain weight and up to 3 years of age. When I contacted the seller, she was most unhelpful and said that she would not take the chair back or refund my money. Thinking that I could not do anything about this problem, I donated the chair to a local charity shop, giving details of its suitability which I feel that the seller should have done with me. I would like ebay to contact her, advising her in future to be sure that she lists items properly as I feel that in this case her description is misleading. I would also ask you to please add this information to the comment she has made on the feedback she left for me, where she states that I should have checked the suitability of the chair before purchase. I interpreted the suitability of the chair from her description which does not mention the fact of weight and age limitations. If she had stated this, then I would not have made the purchase.

And the sellers response was this:

I reject the claim that the item was listed inaccurately & that the description was misleading. As advised by Ebay I checked completed listings before starting the selling process & came across items listed with a minimum age only, exactly as mine was. There was no prompt from Ebay in the ?Item Specifics? section of ?Create listing? page to allow for a maximum weight to be entered. The box for age suitability has ?from birth?, ?from 3 months? & ?from 6 months? as options, I selected from 6 months as this is accurate. The buyer shouldn?t have assumed it is suitable for all ages over 6 months as that is absurd. It is reasonable to suggest the buyer should have researched what would suit her needs before buying as they were clearly very specific & she is blaming me for failing to do this. Pushchairs are made for babies & toddlers, not 3 year old children. As the buyer no longer has the item & paid in cash after seeing it in person, I am unable to refund her & don?t think there is a case.

If you were Ebay then who would you agree with here?

I'll let you know if I'm buyer or seller after a response as I want someone unbiased to tell me who's being unreasonable here. Thank you.

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civilfawlty · 21/05/2012 16:37

Seller

Flightty · 21/05/2012 16:38

Well if I were ebay I'd give a totally random verdict because they do. If it's paypal they're a bit more rational.

If you're the buyer you're mad, if you're the seller then you've done nothing wrong. It's a pushchair, most of them only take kids up to 3yo or 15kg and that's standard across the board...you would only mention an exception to this.

Flightty · 21/05/2012 16:39

It was a tenner anyway...FGS

Tryharder · 21/05/2012 16:39

Probably the buyer. But it's £10 so even if I were the seller, I wouldn't be too bothered. For a 3 year old, you are looking at a fold up buggy really.

5inthebed · 21/05/2012 16:40

Seller

Tryharder · 21/05/2012 16:40

Gah. Sorry, I meant I would side with the seller, not the buyer.

HappyHippyChick · 21/05/2012 16:40

Seller

MrsZoidberg · 21/05/2012 16:41

I'd go with the seller. But then, if I'm buying something I research it obsessively. 3 does seem a little old for a pushchair, but from the photo it does look sturdy enough. I would be more interested in the From age rather than the To age, and if I was unsure I'd email the seller.

lisaro · 21/05/2012 16:42

If you are disputing you had no right to give the item away. She described it correctly - you're way out of order with the negative.

MushroomGeorge · 21/05/2012 16:42

seller

lisaro · 21/05/2012 16:43

So- the seller.

CaseyShraeger · 21/05/2012 16:44

If I were me, the seller, because the seller is clearly right and the buyer in orbit somewhere around Saturn. But ebay do tend to side with buyers.

Firawla · 21/05/2012 16:44

seller. what does the buyer want to happen anyway, she has accepted the item and given it to the charity shop so i doubt ebay is going to say anything she's not even asking to return and refund, just wasting everyones time

bumpybecky · 21/05/2012 16:44

seller

SmilingandWaving · 21/05/2012 16:45

Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!

I am the seller. I've been raging about this all weekend and wondering if maybe I was wrong. It didn't even occur to me that it would have a weight limit as my DS is only 16months.

Her argument seems to be that because it says 6 months plus it should then be suitable for everyone up to 100 which is clearly stupid.

I she hadn't given it away I would have changed my mind about the refund just to save the hassle but clearly I can't do that now.

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SmilingandWaving · 21/05/2012 16:48

I just hope Ebay see it that way but I have a feeling they won't. They seem to always side with the buyer.

I've never had this happen before, she paid cash as well so will they take the money from my paypal?

The really daft thing is that she looked at it before handing over the money and said it was great!

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Nuttyprofessor · 21/05/2012 16:49

Seller, quite normal to use a buggy upto age 3. Anything less than 3 I would expect to be mentioned.

chrisrobin · 21/05/2012 16:50

Seller

NarkedPuffin · 21/05/2012 16:51

Seller. She could have asked you if it was suitable for a 3 year old.

5inthebed · 21/05/2012 16:51

She is an idiot then. Have you told Ebay she looked at it before handing cash over?

Popoozle · 21/05/2012 16:51

Yep, Seller too. If you want a refund for anything you can't just give the item away! It needs to be returned in the same condition you received it, so that it can be resold.

Cheeky beggar!

pinkappleby · 21/05/2012 16:52

Seller too, nearly all pushchairs are 'officially' until 3.

GnocchiNineDoors · 21/05/2012 16:53

Silly woman buying such an item for a three year old.

SmilingandWaving · 21/05/2012 16:55

5inthebed I mentioned it here:
'As the buyer no longer has the item & paid in cash after seeing it in person, I am unable to refund her & don?t think there is a case' at the end of my reply.

Do you think that's ok? I really struggled to get all my points in 1000 characters.

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mrswee · 21/05/2012 16:55

Well I think as the buyer has 'donated' pushchair so therefore cannot return the item then I would say ebay would side with the seller. Otherwise they would settle it by forced refunding once the buyer has sent in proof of return posatge as per ebay rules on returns.

She could have researched the buggy before buying or asked you.

Can 3 year olds not walk?

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