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Please don't judge. Weight loss jab . Prescription. Previous ED

21 replies

NeedToGetOutOfThisSomehow · 30/10/2024 21:51

I'll keep it brief and try not to drip feed

I'm overweight. Bmi 32 ish
I've calories counted the last few weeks around 1000 to 1500 and yet gained 5lb !
Walk a fair amount. Definitely over 10k steps a day

I need something. I hate hate hate the way I look and feel. I feel frumpy.

Now so as not to drip feed. 10 years ago I lost 3st taking laxatives. It started I'd take one if I was ' naughty' then it became one everything I ate.
3st lighter made me feel amazing, I managed to stop as met dh and I was embarrassed it was hard ! I kept the weight off until we had our 2nd dc together 4 years later

I also have pcos and endometriosis

I ordered more laxatives that arrived the other day . So far I've managed to not take them . Despite going to the hiding place many times . I just know it's stupid but I feel desperate

I've a gp call booked soon and was going to mention all the above.

Please don't judge. I'm desperate not to fall into taking laxatives again but the urge is so high.

OP posts:
NeedToGetOutOfThisSomehow · 30/10/2024 23:58

Bump

OP posts:
BIWI · 31/10/2024 00:00

Your thread title is completely at odds with your post. What is it you're looking for?

beetr00 · 31/10/2024 05:55

If you're asking if weight loss injections would help with your current weight problems, then I'd suggest, yes.

With your history, I really don't think your GP will prescribe.

If you can afford to go privately, that could be your solution.

letshavetea · 31/10/2024 06:05

OP - my sympathies are with you. I’d ask to move this post to the weight loss injections board if I were you.

ReadWithScepticism · 31/10/2024 06:13

Please ask GP for help with your disordered eating. Losing 3 stones through laxative abuse is really bad for you. If your thinking is that weight loss jabs will help you to pull back from laxative abuse, then do keep in mind that they do themselves have the capacity to be abused in the context of an eating disorder. You may need additional support to take them safely. Please go down the route of getting proper help.

Savingthehedgehogs · 31/10/2024 06:19

The weight loss injections would be much safer than laxative abuse.

Talulahalula · 31/10/2024 06:24

I don’t judge. I have a similar history and I put on weight over lockdown.
Here is what I did
I joined the gym in March 2023 and changed my diet to more plant and protein based. I mean, most of my meals are vegetable or plant based now. It’s easier now as my youngest is a teen so will either come to the gym or I go before work or when he is with his dad. I do weights at the gym as well as cardio as I heard that building up your muscle also helps burn more calories. I go for a walk with DS most evenings as well so he is not on a screen the whole time. I cut out lattes as well.
It took me about eighteen months to lose three stone and now I am at the stage of making sure I don’t lose any more (as my tendency when I lose weight is to just keep going).
If it’s baby weight, I think I would keep up with the walking and see if I could fit in other forms of exercise (I get that this might be harder with a baby but hopefully DH can support you here) and make sure that you have a diet without empty calories (so you need more whole grains, plants and proteins; not just thinking about calories). I am not a dietician but I am fairly sure restricting calories too much will make your body conserve them

Talulahalula · 31/10/2024 06:29

I would also bin the laxatives. You will feel mentally bad and guilty if you take them and there are safer ways to lose weights.
Plus, be kind to yourself. You have had a baby and you will be a busy mum. Lots of people put on weight in this situation and you will be able to lose it in time without injuring yourself.

melchim · 31/10/2024 06:31

I'm also not sure what your question is. If you need weight loss injections then hopefully it'll be a straightforward process and likely successful 🤷🏼‍♀️

ReadWithScepticism · 31/10/2024 06:32

letshavetea · 31/10/2024 06:05

OP - my sympathies are with you. I’d ask to move this post to the weight loss injections board if I were you.

It might be better not to move your thread to that board, since it has a more monolithic take on things, and because the online pharmacy route might be harmful for you unless you also have rl GP support with your eating disorder.

On this thread there is more likely to be a wider range of input xx

Tulip8 · 31/10/2024 06:34

Also you bump a thread that doesn't even have a question!

legallyblond · 31/10/2024 06:38

Hi OP, I think that (understandably) you’ve had replies so far from people who don’t have experience of an eating disorder, and in particular no experience of a laxative addiction in that context. I had many years of an ED (now recovered most of the time) and a crippling laxative addiction for many of those years.

Like you I’ve seen all the stuff about weight loss injections and the old ED bit of my brain thinks “yay! Completely allowed drug that could strip weight off”. It’s what I LONGED for in my laxative abuse days. My BMI is a steady 24 now so the recovered part of me obviously won’t take weight loss jabs but, as you will know, the ED part thinks I’m huge so it’s tempting.

For you I think the first thing must be to tell someone that you’re tempted to go back to laxatives and (this is true regardless of weight) therefore having ED thoughts so need some support to keep on track and away from the pills and the other ED behaviours. That is, I know, a hard thing to admit to …

I’ve been in your shoes of being overweight post ED and it’s very challenging because yes, you do need to lose weight objectively BUT, as I think you’ll know, the very act of losing weight is highly likely to trigger your ED thoughts and behaviour and, without support, losing is very likely to become addictive and cause unhealthy behaviours even if the initial weight loss is done in a healthy way.

For someone with your / my history, my instinct is that weight loss have are highly likely to become an addiction (ie replace the laxatives in terms of behaviours). That’s certainly what I think for myself…. If, which outside the ED contact is totally fair enough with your BMI, you conclude you do need to lose weight and want / need to do that via jabs, I really really REALLY urge you do do that alongside counselling to avoid the jabs being tied up into the same old ED thoughts (ie to avoid them being the addiction that the laxies were) AND I’d suggest you need the support of a nutritionist to ensure that while having the jabs and losing weight you maintain a grip on what healthy eating looks like. I’ve certainly experienced losing weight both during ED and in recovery and, because the losing weight is so beguiling and addictive for me, losing all sense of what normal eating looks like (eg I’ve previously in recovery, but really in a resurge of ED behaviours, but all carbs and thought that was very normal).

I think there’s nowhere near enough talk about weight loss jabs in the context of disordered eating, so feasibly with the right support, perhaps the jabs might actually help remove the ED “noise” (I’ve heard those sorts of descriptions from overwaters), but I think specifically with a laxie history, you need to be very alive to the potential addiction and therefore seek sone quite heavy duty ED support while you take the jabs.

As I say, I think (totally understandably) lots of the people raving about the jabs don’t understand EDs!

I really feel for you, I found dieting (where my BMI was genuinely high) post ED a very, very challenging thing. For me, it did re trigger my ED (and I lost way too much, despite having recovers from the ED and laxative abuse first time round 10 years before and had three children since then), but I then sought help yet again and am now on a more even keel. For me, I had counselling which in fact focussed on not restricting at all (so eating only 100 calls for me is restricting and is triggering) and having permission to eat what I want but without binging and knowing what proper nutrition looks like (eg having plenty of animal fats and allowing carbs etc).

Please be careful xxxx

legallyblond · 31/10/2024 06:40

I actually think you might get best directed help in the ED section as, respectfully, most people who quote rightly think weight loss jabs are brilliant don’t have a history of an ED with serious laxative abuse.

legallyblond · 31/10/2024 06:41

legallyblond · 31/10/2024 06:38

Hi OP, I think that (understandably) you’ve had replies so far from people who don’t have experience of an eating disorder, and in particular no experience of a laxative addiction in that context. I had many years of an ED (now recovered most of the time) and a crippling laxative addiction for many of those years.

Like you I’ve seen all the stuff about weight loss injections and the old ED bit of my brain thinks “yay! Completely allowed drug that could strip weight off”. It’s what I LONGED for in my laxative abuse days. My BMI is a steady 24 now so the recovered part of me obviously won’t take weight loss jabs but, as you will know, the ED part thinks I’m huge so it’s tempting.

For you I think the first thing must be to tell someone that you’re tempted to go back to laxatives and (this is true regardless of weight) therefore having ED thoughts so need some support to keep on track and away from the pills and the other ED behaviours. That is, I know, a hard thing to admit to …

I’ve been in your shoes of being overweight post ED and it’s very challenging because yes, you do need to lose weight objectively BUT, as I think you’ll know, the very act of losing weight is highly likely to trigger your ED thoughts and behaviour and, without support, losing is very likely to become addictive and cause unhealthy behaviours even if the initial weight loss is done in a healthy way.

For someone with your / my history, my instinct is that weight loss have are highly likely to become an addiction (ie replace the laxatives in terms of behaviours). That’s certainly what I think for myself…. If, which outside the ED contact is totally fair enough with your BMI, you conclude you do need to lose weight and want / need to do that via jabs, I really really REALLY urge you do do that alongside counselling to avoid the jabs being tied up into the same old ED thoughts (ie to avoid them being the addiction that the laxies were) AND I’d suggest you need the support of a nutritionist to ensure that while having the jabs and losing weight you maintain a grip on what healthy eating looks like. I’ve certainly experienced losing weight both during ED and in recovery and, because the losing weight is so beguiling and addictive for me, losing all sense of what normal eating looks like (eg I’ve previously in recovery, but really in a resurge of ED behaviours, but all carbs and thought that was very normal).

I think there’s nowhere near enough talk about weight loss jabs in the context of disordered eating, so feasibly with the right support, perhaps the jabs might actually help remove the ED “noise” (I’ve heard those sorts of descriptions from overwaters), but I think specifically with a laxie history, you need to be very alive to the potential addiction and therefore seek sone quite heavy duty ED support while you take the jabs.

As I say, I think (totally understandably) lots of the people raving about the jabs don’t understand EDs!

I really feel for you, I found dieting (where my BMI was genuinely high) post ED a very, very challenging thing. For me, it did re trigger my ED (and I lost way too much, despite having recovers from the ED and laxative abuse first time round 10 years before and had three children since then), but I then sought help yet again and am now on a more even keel. For me, I had counselling which in fact focussed on not restricting at all (so eating only 100 calls for me is restricting and is triggering) and having permission to eat what I want but without binging and knowing what proper nutrition looks like (eg having plenty of animal fats and allowing carbs etc).

Please be careful xxxx

Sorry, typo, I meant 1,000 cals

SensibleSigma · 31/10/2024 06:49

Well done for coming and asking for help. Ignore the PPs who don’t understand your question.

There’s a woman on FB called Victoria Kleinsman, who is worth a follow. She does podcasts about recovery from disordered eating. I have found some of her stuff really interesting. She helped me spot a few underlying personality traits that fuel my disorder.

Also try the ED boards here. It is hard, I’m in a similar place. My previous behaviours haven’t been bad but the urge is there.

I asked GP about the injections and there isn’t enough information about ED yet. I’m hesitant.

I would focus on really great nutrition and follow an exercise influencer you enjoy. It’s really helpful to motivate and give new goals.
Mine have been specific strength and flexibility goals, like the Asian squat. Yours might be a weight to lift or a distance to reach.

I also use my Fitbit to keep an eye on health- there are more metrics there you can work on.

Nomither · 31/10/2024 06:58

You may have to budget to go private.

On another note, the 5lbs could be due to water retention? You need to work out your calorie deficit correctly and if you stick within its limits you will lose weight. It's science. There is no grey area, eat less calories loose weight.

ReadWithScepticism · 31/10/2024 07:11

That is such a great post, @legallyblond . I'm afraid that in my previous posts I may have sounded mildly positive about the possible helpfulness for you, OP, of weight loss jabs. I didn't mean to. I was just trying to be respectful of the fact that for some people (without eating disorders) they are incredibly valuable.

I think that these jabs have somehow become something that it is hard to criticise on MN without getting pounced on. (And of course it is not the jabs themselves but the unsupported purchase of them that is potentially problematic.) But as someone with disordered eating myself I do see their huge potential to cause harm to someone with an ED. I have a healthy BMI, so I know I wouldn't be prescribed them (unless I dodged the lax online protections against misprescribing), but were it not for that I'm sure that my disordered eating would make them an appealing and dangerous prospect.

bostonchamps · 31/10/2024 07:18

@legallyblond is right - very clear some posters on here have no experience of ED. As someone who has been in the crutches of one on and off (mostly on) since early teenagehood, the constant conversation about weight loss injections is horrendous.

OP please seek help for your laxative addiction first, if you're hiding them from yourself but can feel your resolve slipping you have a problem. It may be from that help you can access injections as a safe way of losing weight. Or it may be a qualified medical professional might think they'll be too damaging for your mental health.

beetr00 · 31/10/2024 10:52

brilliant and informative post @legallyblond

Mummyoflittledragon · 31/10/2024 16:57

i think anything, which can potentially encourage disordered eating should be actively discouraged. I am in the same position as you weight wise with a dd with anorexia. It is terribly difficult to get out the grips of an ED and you know it. Please don’t put yourself at risk. Get some therapy for your laxative addiction. You’re still not over it if you’re longing for miracle cures.

SensibleSigma · 31/10/2024 20:39

There’s a great guy on FB called Sean Casey. He is really sensible about food. Well worth following him for a grounded balanced approach. Between him and Victoria Kleinman, I get regular doses of sensible advice to help me stay on track.
How are you doing, @NeedToGetOutOfThisSomehow ? Are you feeling any better?

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