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Should DD16 with resurgent ED change school for sixth form?

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KeyFindings · 20/08/2024 14:02

Hi all - my DD16 has suffered from ED for 3 years, first anorexia, then successful weight restoration, now periods of bingeing (but not bulimia) and restriction. She has not had periods in 8 months and is in a very bad place mentally and emotionally.

She was seen very quickly at CAMHS first time round as her weight was v low, they discharged her after 6 months, she is now on waiting list to go back to CAMHS but that will take around a year so no help whatsoever right now.

She is really struggling in making final decision about where to go to go to Sixth Form. We are lucky in our area that there is flexibility and final choice does not need to be made until next week after GCSE result come out.

She was really hoping for a new start at a new school but is now wavering and I am not sure how to advise her.

School A: Small sixth form, the school she's been at since Year 7, more restricted subject choices, some very nice staff, some utterly useless staff. Atmosphere benign but very disorganised and ad hoc. A couple of her good friends are staying there but also a cohort of girls who have excluded her and made her feel useless in the past, although that may change of course.

School B: Large sixth form, wide range of subjects, very organised with dedicated sixth form staff. However, it is more pushy academically and nobody there knows her or her past issues. Because it's larger and more anonymous, there is a risk she will just withdraw into her shell even more and make no effort to make new friends

WWYD? She is feeling so fragile at the moment with zero confidence in her body and ability to even do A-levels (although she has said she doesn't want to go to FE college, she wants to go to Sixth Form) is it best to stay where she is where at least she knows everyone?

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Slowlyimproving · 21/08/2024 06:16

Hi, we had similar a similar dilemma. DD decided at the end of the summer to change to a large academic 6th form . Best decision she made. She is quite academic anyway so that side wasn't a struggle.
However I suspect part of her ED triggers were friendship issues in her old school. She made a new start and found some good friends.
Although big there were some great teachers and she got really good support.

RoseAndRose · 21/08/2024 06:26

Are any others from her current school also making the move to school B?

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/08/2024 06:32

Hi Keyfindings. This is a tough one. I will give you my reasoning for what we decided with dd.

My dd is the same age as yours and we have opted for her to stay in her small school. Hers is private and the A level options are limited but they have the courses she’d like to do. She has been offered a place in 2 other larger schools, one private and one state. I was hoping to get her back into state, partly for cost and partly to get her out of her comfort zone.

We took her out of state school in year 9 as she wasn’t coping and I was hoping a few years in a protected environment would help her to gain resilience. However she developed anorexia in year 11 and needs the familiarity and stability especially as it looks as though she may have pretty much the full monty of anorexia, ARFID, autism and PDA. She therefore needs very few food choices to be able to eat. So in her current school they either eat food from the canteen or go to the coop next door to buy lunch whereas in the bigger schools there is more choice and therefore more ways to confuse her.

As for friends, she isn’t really great friends with any of the girls, who decided to stay. She has become irritated by some of girls she used to hang out with (only one is staying) and all of the other girls she used to hang out with at school are leaving. I hope this irritation will settle as it is part of her ED. She is also friendly with a couple of the other girls, who are staying but they’re different from her so she’s not likely to hang out with them. She is, however, really good friends with a couple of the boys and has plans to hang out with them. I think she finds the boys less complicated and she can’t handle complexity right now, which is why she’s withdrawn from some of her female friends.

As for your dd, I see she’s been excluded from a group of girls. I understand your dd will have been really hurt. I had similar happen to me when my dad was ill and died, at the same age as our dds. Looking at things from their perspective, it will have been hard for them to deal with my dad’s death and your dd’s illness and sometimes it is easier to just withdraw. Adults also withdraw from tough situations so it’s unsurprising children do too. I know from my personal experience being left behind / excluded takes a massive toll on your mental health. However, your dd does have friends, who stuck by her. Idk if you have explained any of this to your dd as it possibly isn’t personal rather they just don’t have the cognitive ability, maturity and experience to handle her ED so they found it easier to carry on their lives without her.

As you say, things might change for your dd with these girls. She has a couple of good friends, who are sticking by her and I presume looking after her to the best of their ability. For my dd, friends like this have been brilliant and they are the ones, who helped me to get dd eating again when she had 2 weeks of extreme starvation, and have taken her out to eat, kept her going, one even took dd on holiday with her (the family are very experienced with ED). Unfortunately she isn’t at school with any of them but good friends in my book are invaluable.

For my dd changing schools even to the much larger and yes, much more organised private school wouldn’t suit her at all. Moreover the school is all girls and this is the last thing she needs right now. The other option, the state school is just too large and overwhelming for her. We also looked at an FE college but dd wasn’t comfortable at all.

I do understand what you’re saying about a fresh start. For my dd, it’s a no brainer and much as I thought going to a different school would broaden her horizons, this wouldn’t be right for her. She needs the familiarity to recover and her current school is like an old shoe, which fits.

Changing schools at this difficult time will be tough. I actually did that at exactly the same age. I knew no one. And I definitely didn’t blossom. I made a poor choice. But didn’t have the parental support or enough awareness to understand I needed to leave that school. As a result of my experiences I don’t keep in contact with anyone from either school.

You sound much more supportive and if your dd makes a choice to go to the larger school and it is the wrong one, there is often leeway to change schools up until Christmas. So if your dd thinks she’s made a mistake she will perhaps be able to change during this time. From my personal experience and that of my dd I would say stay with what you know. But idk if this is right for your dd. And at the end of the day, even if she stays for a while or even a year and realises she is ready for the larger school, I imagine it would still be possible to change to the other school and do 3 years of 6th form. This for me would be a question to ask them or perhaps the LEA. Idk how it works.

PolaroidPrincess · 21/08/2024 06:41

DD is ND and decided to move. It worked out well for them. They've made new friends and have kept in touch with a couple of old ones that went to the Sixth Firm attached to their old school.

KeyFindings · 21/08/2024 10:32

@Mummyoflittledragon this is very helpful, thank you

Both schools are state. It is very hard to know which way to go as both options could work out for the best or be a total disaster. I had thought that she could try moving to School B and give it half a term and then move back to School A if she decided she would be more comfortable there

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Slowlyimproving · 21/08/2024 13:10

DDs first school was also a small private school, and they offered to take her bag if she didn't settle in the new school.

No one in school A knew she had developed ED. A teacher in school B realised after a few months something wasn't right and this encouraged DD to open up about her issues.

But this is very much luck of the drawer

lljkk · 21/08/2024 13:14

I'd run a mile from the more pushy school. ime, anorexia synchronises with competitiveness about high achievement. Stay out of that environment as much as she can.

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/08/2024 16:50

lljkk · 21/08/2024 13:14

I'd run a mile from the more pushy school. ime, anorexia synchronises with competitiveness about high achievement. Stay out of that environment as much as she can.

This is a very good point and part of the reason as to why my dd is better staying in her more chaotic, smaller school.

KeyFindings · 26/08/2024 07:30

Thank you all for you advice. GCSE results are out and she did better than we hoped and than she herself expected. We left final decision up to her and she very quickly decided that she wanted to go to the new school. However, we have also discussed with her old school and if things go badly and she is really miserable, they have said the door is always open and she can transfer back there. So I suppose we'll just have to keep everything crossed and see how it goes.

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Slowlyimproving · 26/08/2024 07:47

Congratulations.
It may be useful to tell the new school about her problems. DD got really good support from one of the teachers towards the end. I wish I had made it clearer to them she had an eating disorder.

Mummyoflittledragon · 26/08/2024 08:02

It’s good your dd was able to make this decision herself. Mine also did better than expected despite extreme restricting and has made the grades to get into the higher achieving school. She did have a wobble the day of the exam results and I drafted an email to the higher achieving school but she has decided to stay with the school she knows. I also encouraged her to contact a girl she fell out with to ask her something dd wanted to know and although they may never be besties, at least there hopefully won’t be an atmosphere.

Posted too soon. I hope your dd will settle. At least she has something to fall back on. Best of luck.

NorahNorah · 03/09/2024 21:13

What is the friends group like?

NorahNorah · 03/09/2024 22:25

Mummyoflittledragon · 21/08/2024 16:50

This is a very good point and part of the reason as to why my dd is better staying in her more chaotic, smaller school.

@Mummyoflittledragon and @lljkk - does this deny them chance to fulfil potential?
Yes, the managing of matters will be ongoing and ever changing; so let the genius be a genius.
Whatever you do, doesn't seem it's expected to just stop - everyone will have to work it, regardless of any of many choices you make.

Mummyoflittledragon · 04/09/2024 07:05

NorahNorah · 03/09/2024 22:25

@Mummyoflittledragon and @lljkk - does this deny them chance to fulfil potential?
Yes, the managing of matters will be ongoing and ever changing; so let the genius be a genius.
Whatever you do, doesn't seem it's expected to just stop - everyone will have to work it, regardless of any of many choices you make.

I don’t think so in my dd’s case. Both are private. She has 5 people in on of her A level classes, 2 in another and yet to find out in the 3rd so very small classes, which is an advantage. The only drawback is that she can only do 3 subjects at her school. But that’s plenty for a perfectionist, who may have autism and PDA like my dd and in the early stages of recovery from anorexia with ARFID tendencies. This doesn’t prevent the most academically able from getting into one of the Oxbridge universities, not that this would be for dd.

PolaroidPrincess · 04/09/2024 08:14

KeyFindings · 26/08/2024 07:30

Thank you all for you advice. GCSE results are out and she did better than we hoped and than she herself expected. We left final decision up to her and she very quickly decided that she wanted to go to the new school. However, we have also discussed with her old school and if things go badly and she is really miserable, they have said the door is always open and she can transfer back there. So I suppose we'll just have to keep everything crossed and see how it goes.

So glad that she did better than expected. That's fabulous.

Also glad that she's made the decision herself. Hope things are on the up for her Flowers

Theredjellybean · 04/09/2024 08:22

I have extensive experience with DD with relapsing ED and I'd say go with the school that will offer the most pastoral support.
My dad did alevels at a school with award winning pastoral care.
They supervised her eating, watched her behaviours, even did toilet supervision when she was purging...the catering staff worked with her treatment team to ensure her meal plan was followed etc.
My DD felt "heard" and validated as the school took her illness seriously.. it meant the anorexia had no where to hide.
It was far more valuable than subjects choices

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