Welsh place names pronunciation

[DaNiYmaOHyd]

Am I the only one who is fed up with hearing Welsh names mispronounced on TV and radio?
I recently complained to the BBC about its presenters saying 'Plaid Cwmri' instead of 'Plaid Cymru' but i was fobbed off.

The reply I got included:
"If we receive large numbers of complaints about an issue, we may make our response available online."

I am therefore asking you to please complain to the BBC about the mispronunciation of Cymru.

Here's the complaint I posted:
As a regular BBC Radio 4 listener and a Welsh speaker I am exasperated at hearing presenters and newsreaders mispronouncing the word Cymru.
This morning it was [presenter] on [programme] but I've heard various presenters say it the same way (e.g. [presenter], and [programme]) which suggests that the Pronunciation Unit at the BBC are advising them to use an incorrect pronunciation.

Cymru is pronounced [ˈkʌmri] not [kʊmri]. If you do not believe me, check. I appreciate that some of the Welsh letters and diphthongs aren't easy for non-Welsh speakers, but Cymru is not difficult to get right. It's bad enough regularly hearing Senedd said as Seneth, and Ynys Môn said as Inis Mon, but this is the name of a home nation and you get it wrong.

Could you advise your presenters and newsreaders to say the name of our country correctly please. Stop insulting us Welsh. I expect better from the BBC.

TIA

While I'm here, I'd also like to complain about this article:
Wales finally has a truly fabulous hotel to compete with the rest of Britain (telegraph.co.uk)

The paper version had the title 'Hard to say, easy to stay'.

AFAIK, Penmaenuchaf is not pronounced pen-mine-i-chav!
Presumably they don't realise that there may be Welsh people reading the Torygraph.
The article was written by Hattie Garlick who also write s for The Times and The Guardian.

Ugh - ain't we just a cute little theme park?! 🙄

And I can't imagine a chuckle about the 'confusing spellings' in India or Africa or France...

My fault for reading the article, I suppose, but it was safely tucked away in the Travel section. She also said 'Service is a joy - staff slipping seamlessly between Welsh and English,...'. Well, there's a surprise for you seeing as both languages are taught in schools in the area.
Would it be as quaint if she mentioned that staff in a Moroccan hotel were fluent in Arabic and French or that staff in Delhi spoke both Hindi and English?

Please do complain to the BBC about the 'Cwmri'. It's so insulting to us.

So how is Senedd pronounced? Everyone I know pronounces it Seneth

@Oneofthesurvivors , in Welsh, th and dd don't have the same sound.

th is like the th in thing, thin, think
dd is like the th in the, them, there

Gwyneth and Gwynedd don't sound the same. Similar but not identical.

I don't underdstand. I've always said Plaid like "plied" and Cymru like
"come ree". Is that wrong?

@ginasevern , radio presenters who don't speak Welsh say it as 'Coomry' (Coo like in Cook). It's not just one of them saying it, so it looks like they've been advised to say it in that way.

Plaid Cymru is as you say it. Plaid rhymes with Pride, Cym rhymes with Come.

@DaNiYmaOHyd

Thanks! I live in England but very near the Welsh border. I've holidayed in Wales since childhood and lived in West Wales for a few years and my son was born there. I don't speak Welsh regrettably but always prided myself on my pronunciation.

I was horrified to think I'd been denegrating the language (and making a fool of myself) all this time. Welsh is such a beautiful, ancient language.

You hadn't.
I mind the BBC pronunciation because it's exaggerated and incorrect. Some place names are tricky but Cymru (Cum-ry, ish) and Ynys Môn (Unnis Mone, ish) aren't, so why are they getting them wrong?

In the article, the writer probably has picked some tricky place names but if I did not know any Welsh I'd think that pen-mine-i-chav was 'pen mine I chav' not (approximately) pen mine ich av, and that dol-geth-ai was doll geth ay. ma-hunt-leth is worse than Mac un leth IMO, so her explanations are no help.

I nearly threw something at the television the other day because of the BBC's apparent inability to pronounce Eluned (as in Morgan) correctly. So many wrong versions 😕

I heard someone say Nia Griffith as Ny-a Griffith.
Some presenters do struggle but Nia couldn't be any easier.

Eluned isn't difficult - I'd say Eh-LINN-ed (or LINN-ed). Ms Morgan has been an MP since 2005.

Please do complain if you hear any mispronunciations.
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Anita Annie Ta? Rani was interviewing Ellen Ed Morgan on WH today.

Then there’s Dafydd pronounced as Daffid. F in Welsh’s like V in English(ff in Welsh is what equates to f in English). And dd is th as in this, that and the other.

The awful thing is that the BBC has a pronunciation office that should be advising them on all this. It's not like an ordinary person getting it wrong.

OP you'll get more people to help you if you post on social media than on MN. The Welsh language twitterati is quite strong.