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Band 7 acting up pay

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Miljah · 31/05/2019 19:20

My manager is very keen that I apply for a year's acting up to a Band 7 position. I am decades qualifed.

However, I am on the top of Band 6 which pays £19.06ph. The bottom of Band 7 pays £19.22ph.

Am I right in thinking this acting up represents only a 16p ph uplift?

Or are there 'separate rates' for acting up?

Buggered if I'm going to take on the wrangling of half the staff, all new overseas trained employees with wildly variable competencies, for an addition 16p an hour!

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StrugglingOn13 · 31/05/2019 19:25

When I acted up I moved from the equivalent pay point to the one above if that makes sense? But that was when they overlapped, not with the new pay scheme... seems a bot unfair to only get 16p!

Can’t starting pay points be negotiable in the contract?

Miljah · 01/06/2019 09:53

We have a 'new' ish boss who, being modern NHS management, is a bit of a b*stard, and won't budge from AfC to the extent we have lost loads of great staff, but he just doesn't care.

So I doubt they'll remunerate me properly.

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MoreSlidingDoors · 01/06/2019 09:55

AfC would dictate that if the bottom point of 7 gives you a pay rise, that’s where you would go.

There isn’t a minimum threshold (eg 10%).

MoreSlidingDoors · 01/06/2019 09:57

AfC has been in place for almost 15 years. It’s whole purpose was to remove the fiddling about that managers did which resulted in grade creep and unfairness. Your manager should be abiding by AfC. That’s your contractual entitlement.

Miljah · 01/06/2019 10:15

No, it's whole purpose was to pay us less. A side effect may have been to make managers' lives easier, but as it is, as an example, we have Band 6s who have to more or less run the show, and other Band 6s who cannot be left unsupervised. The loss of the subtle grade differences between Link Sen 2, Sen 2 and Sen 1 have caused way more unfairness! Tho we note Band 8 got an 8a, 8b, 8c and so forth.

In the world of supply and demand, certain unpopular shifts- or roles, could be made more attractive via pay supplements, local arrangements etc.

These have been swept away.

And my manager very much wants to 'abide by AfC' thus the offer of a whole 16p an hour wage uplift to take over the manager's responsibilities for a year.

I was asking if there were any other 'arrangements' in place that I don't know about to make this band 7 acting up more attractive to the people the managers want to do them, i.e. top of Band 6, very experienced staff?

2 years ago, in our largely Band 6 team, we got a bank person in who, due to a dire shortage of that skill, and due to the alternative which was Agency at £50ph, demanded Band 7 bank rates for her work, which she got (and I say best of luck to her!). So pretty recently 'arrangements' were being made!

But I suspect the new managers would rather leave the post vacant than come to an arrangement with me Grin.

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dalecooperscoffeecup · 01/06/2019 20:35

No, I don't think there are additional arrangements but in theory your manager could put a case to HR to start you on a higher pay point within the band (as has happened to me before now).

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