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Today is my birthday and I’m struggling

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Totallyaddictedtoshoes · 01/07/2025 10:47

This is long so apologies in advance, I am just spectacularly low today as it’s the first birthday in 23 where I have not been loved my this man. Here is my story.
I have been with my husband for 23 years in September, since we were 20. We were so in love, so affectionate and adored one another, or so I thought. We had built a life and a family we were proud of.

On 31st March I received a letter from the husband of a colleague of my DH’s asking if I had any concerns over now much they were messaging and meeting up when he travelled down to London for work (we live in the North West). I did have a gut feeling (I never have before, I had always been so proud of how well DH got on with women, he was kind, had good morals and was just an all round good guy) but ignored it as he was such a decent guy and we were so obviously in love….

Everything was denied when I showed him the letter, they were just really good friends, chat about work and random stuff, nothing to be suspicious of….He refused to show me their messages.
I wasn’t convinced and he knew it. He deleted her messages as they had “her personal information in them” yet he knew I could be reassured easily by showing them to me, if there really was nothing to hide.
I sat on his home office floor and broke down in tears telling him nothing he had done over the past few days had felt honest or reassuring. He sat there, acting shirty that I had disturbed him from work. Not a word of comfort, a hug, nothing. I asked him that out of respect for me, please step back from contacting this woman outside the parameters of work. He agreed he would do this.
We were due to go on holiday for 2 weeks within a matter of days and this nagging feeling wasn’t dissipating.

I took it up with him again the following evening. He then told me he had deleted her messages as he had talked to her about things he hadn’t talked to me about-he was unhappy and didn’t know why, he wanted to do different things in his life, didn’t know what, but he didn’t think it fit with us. He was thinking of moving out for 6 months to get time and space to sort his head out. I was blindsided. We went on that holiday and it was a living hell.

Over the course of the holiday, more things came out about this “unhappiness”. He wanted control over his time and money, we do everything together since I started wfh during Covid, he has major self esteem issues and no one should have to put up with him. I had many suggestions on how to help alleviate these issues, let’s get some plans in place for him to go off on his running weekends, hiking holiday he mentioned he wanted to do etc. We can change the way finances are run so he felt more in control (he had just never been interested in anything like that before so I did all the research/setting up of accounts etc), I will go and work in the office again and so on. I tried so hard to reassure him over his self esteem issues but nothing was listened to. He refused to try any of my suggestions, wouldn’t come up with his own, didn’t want to talk about it. Our 13 year old daughter could tell something was wrong as despite him acting completely normally, I was clearly distressed.

Several times over the course of that holiday from hell I found out they were still in contact. I saw he had deleted a message he sent to her which he first claimed was him telling her not to contact him. He then said he couldn’t remember what it had said (it was 3 hours earlier!). Our daughter saw them messaging I love you to one another. I had left the restaurant at that point as I was upset. Our daughter asked him why they were sending things like that, was it a romantic love? He looked her in the eye and said no, it’s a friend love, I would never lie to you. She subsequently told me she had been convinced he was cheating, but his frank and seemingly very honest conversation changed her mind.

I found evidence of the most soul destroying, heartbreaking affair the day after we returned from holiday. I knew I was being lied to. He had been lovebombed continually by this woman, showered with compliments, she had been throwing herself at him, knocking on his hotel room door whilst away on business together way back in January and it just got worse from there on, after he eventually bit. I am haunted by the things I have read, they both seemed to be delusional in saying they hadn’t done anything wrong, she insisted she respected his marriage (then in the next message she sends him photos of her in her underwear). Countless declarations of love, hundreds of underwear photos, flattery, her telling him how amazing he is and she is so lucky to have him in her life, him telling her that he sees her kids as part of his extended family (he had met them once). Plus all the message sex, honestly, it was utterly horrifying.

I told him that I wanted to work on moving past the affair as I genuinely believed his mental health required support, with all these issues he had come up with recently. I pledged to try as hard as I could to respect his request for time and space and supported him with beginning counselling, encouraged him to talk to me (he wouldn’t), told him I wanted to help him. He continued to tell me he loved me and that he wouldn’t do anything stupid on the impending business trip which she would also be attending and his intention was to have a conversation with her telling her they both needed to step back. I told him she had clearly displayed that she wouldn’t respect that anyway, due to the countless times they had broken that promise.

Since then, there have been dozens more lies, further betrayals which were found out quite innocently, but were met with anger and a complete privacy lockdown, refusal to talk, anger at me having gone onto our family iPad finding his emails open and looking to find the proof (he had sent himself the WhatsApp chat before deleting it). Not a shred of effort made to try and resolve his issues. Told me he will talk when he is ready. That he loved me as much as he ever did and that will never change.

5 more weeks this went on. He hadn’t done anything about moving out, I didn’t know what was going on, I felt as if I was living in some kind of perverse limbo, completely at his mercy with no control or agency within my own life any more.

I snapped. Another suspected meeting with this woman which when questioned, was met with more anger and took 2 days to come up with a reason for why he was at this particular location. It is still denied, but the circumstantial evidence is too strong to refute. At this point, I told him I thought it was best that he did move out as he was turning me into someone I didn’t want to be. Living on edge, constantly suspicious, hurt at the lack of conversation, effort and no support for my emotional distress caused by his affair.

He couldn’t commit to anything permanent, he needed to work on himself and sort his head out and he didn’t know if this was a permanent separation or not. I was effectively put on the bench.

Since that conversation, he emotionally shut off. There were no more I love yous, no attempt to reassure, arguments again when I tried to discuss things. I took our daughter to stay with my brother over half term week as it would have been too distressing for us to watch him move out. My poor girl has been so damaged by him lying to her face, they had the best relationship you could ever imagine and she has had to watch her dad systematically break her mum over the course of 8 weeks of emotional torture.

Just prior to him leaving we had a conversation about the other woman, who was already in the process of separating from her husband although they still live together with their 11 and 9 year old daughters. She had asked her husband for an open marriage as she wanted to “go as far physically with my husband as he was comfortable with”. Every single detail of my reaction to the affair was relayed to her, my thoughts, feelings, emotional reactions, everything. I was torn to shreds. She told him I was only after him for his money, it’s a shame I can’t see him for the truly amazing person he is (this is a man I have loved, supported and been proud of for nearly 23 years and I constantly told him that). I was told I was controlling because I had asked them to cease non-work contact. I was berated for “not forgiving anything yet” 36 hours after I found out about the affair. She said she would step back “but only if he asked, she would do nothing on my say so”

Bearing all this in mind and that the vicious, unfounded comments she made towards me only started after I discovered the affair, I suggested to my DH she had an agenda. He told me yes, he could see that, but I also had an agenda. I wanted to help him work through his issues, try to make positive changes to our lifestyle which would make him happier and reconcile. He asked me why my agenda should be more important than hers. He had known her 6 months at the time.

At the point of moving out I was still being told he doesn’t know what he wants. Within 2 weeks I get unceremoniously dumped by email (as he had a lot to say, didn’t want to mis-speak and knew I would need time to process it - not hiding behind his cowardice at all…) and told he is in a relationship with her. Long distance of course. He never intended it, they struck up an incredible friendship early in the year and were trying to help each other sort out their marriages. The marriage I never knew had any problems, the marriage he never talked about being unhappy within and the marriage that when all this came out, he set aside to rot.

He has repeatedly ignored any reports of our daughter being affected by this. I have raised concerns, his parents have raised concerns, a teacher has raised concerns. But she tells him she is ok so that’s fine. According to him, she is struggling because of having to deal with me dealing with it.

He tells mutual friends he is surprised I pushed the divorce button so fast and he thinks it’s because I’m after his pension etc. he tells me I am projecting onto our daughter and she is ok. Every single thing I have said to him has been due to comments our daughter has made to me, or things I know he has done which have put her in incredibly difficult positions (an example of this is before he moved out whilst it was still not necessarily permanent, he asked her not to tell me, but he is saving to take her to New York next Easter).

I “pushed the divorce button” before he dumped me, well, I had been doing the application for a few weeks as I knew his treatment of me was diabolical. Yet this appears to have angered him. The final straw was upon having a discussion to sort out practical things about a week after he moved out, I happened to mention that I was frightened about a hospital procedure I was having the following week (he knew about it). His response? Silence. He never even asked me if I had someone going with me for support. I ruminated on that for a day or so, then concluded the cruelty in that silence was unforgivable and enough was enough.

I suspected he would take the fireproof safe containing all our important documents, so I squirrelled away the marriage certificate knowing I may well reach that point and I wanted to be able to do it if I did. Annoyingly I received his email about 5 minutes before I got to the final stage of the online firm but hey ho.

I have been broken to pieces and stamped on. Thrown aside like a piece of rubbish. Lied to, betrayed, emotionally manipulated. Had my character decimated. Been hurt beyond measure, not just because of the affair, but the subsequent treatment which still continues with the denial of the effect this is having on our daughter. Who I am desperately trying to protect. Her trauma and anger are solely focused on this woman, it’s caused her to zone out at school (as noticed by a teacher who contacted me about it) due to intrusive thoughts.

I told my husband this as I knew he was intending to tell her he was now in a relationship with his affair partner. I told him I wasn’t telling him what to do, because I didn’t know what to do myself, but he needed to know what was happening with our daughter so he can make an informed judgment. He told her that weekend, on her first sleepover at his where he also found it appropriate to pass on a letter and a gift from this woman to our daughter. She came home that Sunday night and cut her hair because she had thoughts going round her head and needed to distract herself.

His new girlfriend messaged me the day after I was dumped, to tell me how amazing my husband is, how she is so so sorry for the hurt and damage to me and my marriage that the letter her husband sent has caused. She hopes that for my daughter’s sake, we can find a kind and respectful way forwards. It seems the pair of them have affair amnesia. She knows I am fully aware of what she has said about me.

I know this is a mess, but I needed to get it out. I have so much real life support, an army of it, but I’m sitting on my own in bed, crying my eyes out on my birthday. His birthday card to me said he is sorry for how this turned out, he never meant to cause hurt or harm. Yet I am irreparably destroyed.
Thank you so much for reading.

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DoGeeseSeeGod · 01/07/2025 11:44

Happy Birthday! I hope you're able to do something you enjoy today, even it's only a small thing.

Your soon-to-be ExH is showing who he is and I'm sorry for the wreckage he's caused. But you're not irreparably destroyed. You can survive and rebuild, with your daughter and with the support you have around you.

Wishing you all the best 💐

LeavesTrees · 01/07/2025 12:12

I’m so sorry to read what your husband and this woman have put you through, they sound selfish and cold and they both deserve each other.

Although it looks like everything is rosy for them, the people I know who have ended up with their affair partners have ended up in quite toxic situations - after all, they both know that the other is capable of having an affair. It’s not the basis for a happy ever after.

Although you feel completely shattered, and although you weren’t anticipating this fresh start, there is a future waiting for you even if that feels impossible.

I think you should try and treat yourself as it’s your birthday. Do something for you, something perhaps he wouldn’t have approved of, something he wouldn’t have joined in on, something that feels like sticking 2 fingers up to him.

As for your daughter, carry on being there for her, supporting her. Show her she at least has one amazing parent. She is your future, focus on that relationship, show her what female strength looks like.

See today as the first day of your new life. It doesn’t feel like it right now, but you are better off without him. Happy Birthday 💐

ginasevern · 01/07/2025 12:22

You needed to get all of that out OP and I know you haven't finished yet. I understand, it happened to me after 26 years of marriage. I was beyond blindsided. My DH "wasn't the type". I'd supported him through thick and thin over the years and we did everything together. When it happened to me I was just like you. I couldn't think of anything else and I wrote the whole sorry story on a couple of online forums as well as repeating myself over and over again to close friends. I was processing it, which is what you are doing. The shock is so utterly devastating, like nothing you could ever imagine. But I'm ten years down the line now and I promise you the future will get better. It really will. I would also add that, if he realises the grass isn't greener, don't take him back. That would be a very bad mistake for you and your daughter. Sending you hugs.

Bienbien · 01/07/2025 12:54

Happy Birthday op.

Yours is a tale as old as time. Mine included.

You are not irreparably damaged. You will survive and thrive. Think of your mum. Think of how much you are loved and cherished by your parents and your daughter. You weren’t put on this earth so that you can waste your life crying after a dude with the moral compass of a hyena.

alcoholnightmare · 01/07/2025 12:57

I’m not bloody surprised you’re struggling!

I came on here to say I’m dreading my first birthday without husband…. But my god, you deserve a fucking medal!

They are diluted disgusting human beings.

next years birthday will be better - book a trip for you and DD for next year whilst youve still got shared money

iamnotalemon · 01/07/2025 13:11

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. It sounds awful!! Happy Birthday- please try and do something nice for yourself and your daughter, even if that’s going out and getting ice cream and treating yourself. Sending you a big hug x

alcoholnightmare · 01/07/2025 13:18

iamnotalemon · 01/07/2025 13:11

I’m so sorry you’re going through this. It sounds awful!! Happy Birthday- please try and do something nice for yourself and your daughter, even if that’s going out and getting ice cream and treating yourself. Sending you a big hug x

Agree with this about ice cream or something with DD - might do her good to THINK you’ve had a nice birthday.
I know that’s very very hard to do though x

Spirallingdownwards · 01/07/2025 13:20

Have a happy birthday knowing you are well rid of such a twat.
Concentrate on you and your daughter. And make sure your lawyer is a good one and do go for a fair share of his pension!!

Woody18 · 01/07/2025 13:33

This also happened to me @Totallyaddictedtoshoes
Your story is pretty much exactly mine, my husband was earlyish 40s when he out of the blue decided he wasn't happy, wanted different things to me, needed space etc etc. I was utterly blindsided. I tried desperately to save my marriage and help him through his "mental health crisis" for about 9 months. Those 9 months were exactly like yours, no communication, utter disrespect to our marriage, refusal to tell me what he wanted, the worst hell on earth, you have described it better than I ever could. I feel only those who have been through it can possibly understand the actual hell it is. I think our only difference is the other woman was a friend of mine....
Be thankful you've seen him for who he is already. Believe him.
It's taken me years to accept that this man who I didn't recognise was the man I married. He was like a stranger to me and our children...

I'm sad to tell you of my pre-teen and teenager at the time, the older one now hasn't spoken to their father in 4 years and the other one who was so close to him now only sees him for a few hours a month, unable to recognise the man who used to be their hero of a daddy...
And they are both profoundly changed (and damaged) by what he did.
NEVER let him tell you it's your fault his child has turned against him. His actions and only his actions have caused the reaction in your child, only HE is to blame.

I just want to say I understand and I promise you that mixed in with the anger, upset, frustration and fury at what he's done to you and your daughter, relief will suddenly hit you at some point. Relief that you're not with this sorry excuse of a man anymore.
Crack on with that divorce, as someone else said, DO NOT let him back. And start to live your life, do all the things you want to do and forget this utter loser of a human being.

You've got a difficult road ahead, I know. But I promise you will get through it and find happiness in your life again.
Chump Lady makes absolute sense once you're ready to read it and if you can find a copy of the "Script" you'll realise that your husband and mine, like so many others in the world have followed it to every word. It helps to know you're sadly not at all alone.
But you WILL get through this and find strength for you and your daughter that you never knew you had.
Good luck and happy birthday. Go buy yourself an enormous present💐

Woody18 · 01/07/2025 13:37

I'll try to find a better copy of the Script

Woody18 · 01/07/2025 13:44

This one details it properly, step by step. Look for the post about 3 or 4 down which says MIDLIFE for Dummies
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/relationships/2558126-The-Cheating-Mans-Script?utm_campaign=thread&utm_medium=share

Totallyaddictedtoshoes · 01/07/2025 14:25

Thank you all for taking the time to read and reply.
I am still in shock I think, 23 years is a very long time and I honestly never thought he would not only cheat, but be so cruel and emotionally manipulative.

He keeps maintaining he is the same person. Our daughter has said to me she can’t understand how he can even think she would think he is the same person after everything he has done. It’s beyond devastating to know how far he has fallen in the eyes of his daughter, his pride and joy.

Not a single choice he has made throughout this has been for anything other than selfish and cowardly reasons. His refusal to accept responsibility to help him sleep at night astounds me, it is just mindboggling.

the message from the other woman has just traumatised me further to be honest, to have the brass neck to apologise for her husbands letter whilst she was in the middle of an affair with my husband is once again, breathtaking. To ask me to try and find a kind and respectful way forwards for my daughter’s sake? Where was her kindness and respect for me whilst she was rolling around hotel beds with my husband, living a secret life in a relationship with him whilst away on business, sending him 50 messages and photos a day and then making those cruel and unjust comments about me, a woman who’s life she has just destroyed. Where on earth do these people come from?

As for taking him back, no way, I don’t even want to look at him again! On that holiday where I was still highly suspicious of an affair and I’d been told of this previously unknown unhappiness (which was all so pithy anyway), I was accused of using emotionally manipulative tactics because I was talking to him about how I feel. He tells his own daughter more “bullshit excuses” (as she so eloquently puts them), each time she sees him. Completely inappropriate stuff like how we “weren’t intimate often and it made him sad”. I hope I get a crystal ball for my birthday as it appears I need one.

It’s devastating to hear so many other women have been/are in this situation, the script is terrifyingly accurate and it just makes you wonder what on earth happens to these previously good, decent men.

Thank you all for the birthday wishes, I have friends round later, there will be pizza and there will be wine!

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LeavesTrees · 01/07/2025 14:41

@Totallyaddictedtoshoes we “weren’t intimate often and it made him sad”

He says that to your 13 year old daughter??

He is disgusting. What young teen wants to hear stuff like that about their own parents? He is making himself sound like a walking dick to his own child, which is almost apt because he sounds like a dickhead!

Totallyaddictedtoshoes · 01/07/2025 15:22

LeavesTrees · 01/07/2025 14:41

@Totallyaddictedtoshoes we “weren’t intimate often and it made him sad”

He says that to your 13 year old daughter??

He is disgusting. What young teen wants to hear stuff like that about their own parents? He is making himself sound like a walking dick to his own child, which is almost apt because he sounds like a dickhead!

Yes, those exact words were said. It’s being done to justify himself I know, but I have already had conversations about how truth is extremely important, but in my opinion, as a parent you also need to balance the risks of whether you are causing more damage (that was about something different, but just to add context). I don’t think she needed to hear that.

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RunForestRuuuuun · 01/07/2025 16:08

Happy Birthday!!

I know this is hard, but remember who you were before you were a girlfriend, wife and mother. She was great and she was tough and now you pick yourself up and be her again.

There is absolutely no point trying to communicate how hurt you and your daughter are because of his behaviour. He doesn’t care. He’s not your husband anymore, he’s just someone you used to know.

Show your daughter how strong you are…. even when you don’t feel it….. fake it til you make it. Take care.

P.S He is a horrible piece of shit and hopefully karma hits him twice as hard.

IsThisLifeNow · 01/07/2025 16:18

Happy birthday! I cried most of my birthday too after STBExH told me he'd cheated. And that he is Gay, I just feel so discarded and used. It was about 6 weeks before my birthday and it was so hard. He helped the kids to make a cake and buy a present so at least there was that. The kids are only 6 and 3, so clearly they couldn't do it themselves, but my god I felt like a charity case.

Here's to many more happier birthdays in the future for all of us

Woody18 · 01/07/2025 18:19

"His refusal to accept responsibility to help him sleep at night astounds me, it is just mindboggling."
I'm afraid he never will... it's the narcissism in him (he was either always a possible covert narcissist or is displaying narcissistic behaviour), pure entitlement and arrogance that he's done nothing wrong.
I once had a glimmer of admission from mine that he "didn't handle things very well" but it was "because of his mental health crisis".
Mental health crisis = not being able to handle the guilt of having an affair, nothing to do with a breakdown...
He's gaslighting you, trying to blame you, no doubt rewriting the history of your whole marriage, all to project the blame onto you.
My therapist pointed out that I should never expect an admission, as if he does then his whole world will come crashing down around him and he won't be able to handle realising what he has lost - so he never will.
Same goes for the fact that in my story, him and the other woman are likely stuck together forever, living in the small village that they do. As they have to save face, to break up would be to admit it wasn't right what they did. So they never will, and there's the karma!!

"It’s devastating to hear so many other women have been/are in this situation, the script is terrifyingly accurate and it just makes you wonder what on earth happens to these previously good, decent men."
They are damaged, with rock bottom self esteem. This is all on them, nothing at all to do with you or what you did/didn't do in your marriage.

My last thoughts are block the bastard! Don't listen to any of his shit anymore. Your daughter is of an age where she can choose whether and when she sees her father and have direct contact with him - and by the way, no court can force anything on her.
This means the good news for you is you don't have to have any contact with him if you don't want to, it can all go through a lawyer.
It took me a long long time to block, but now the peace of mind I have is bliss. It also took me an awful long time to realise there's no point trying to reason with him and tell him how l or the kids feel and are so affected, as he just will not listen and does not care, so anything you say is devastatingly pointless and won't get you that closure you so desperately need. It's horrific to spend 20 odd years with someone and their loyalty shifts just like that.
Prepare for the divorce, he'll have her behind him and he'll fight for every penny.

Good luck and so pleased you're with friends for your birthday 😊

Totallyaddictedtoshoes · 01/07/2025 21:47

Woody18 · 01/07/2025 18:19

"His refusal to accept responsibility to help him sleep at night astounds me, it is just mindboggling."
I'm afraid he never will... it's the narcissism in him (he was either always a possible covert narcissist or is displaying narcissistic behaviour), pure entitlement and arrogance that he's done nothing wrong.
I once had a glimmer of admission from mine that he "didn't handle things very well" but it was "because of his mental health crisis".
Mental health crisis = not being able to handle the guilt of having an affair, nothing to do with a breakdown...
He's gaslighting you, trying to blame you, no doubt rewriting the history of your whole marriage, all to project the blame onto you.
My therapist pointed out that I should never expect an admission, as if he does then his whole world will come crashing down around him and he won't be able to handle realising what he has lost - so he never will.
Same goes for the fact that in my story, him and the other woman are likely stuck together forever, living in the small village that they do. As they have to save face, to break up would be to admit it wasn't right what they did. So they never will, and there's the karma!!

"It’s devastating to hear so many other women have been/are in this situation, the script is terrifyingly accurate and it just makes you wonder what on earth happens to these previously good, decent men."
They are damaged, with rock bottom self esteem. This is all on them, nothing at all to do with you or what you did/didn't do in your marriage.

My last thoughts are block the bastard! Don't listen to any of his shit anymore. Your daughter is of an age where she can choose whether and when she sees her father and have direct contact with him - and by the way, no court can force anything on her.
This means the good news for you is you don't have to have any contact with him if you don't want to, it can all go through a lawyer.
It took me a long long time to block, but now the peace of mind I have is bliss. It also took me an awful long time to realise there's no point trying to reason with him and tell him how l or the kids feel and are so affected, as he just will not listen and does not care, so anything you say is devastatingly pointless and won't get you that closure you so desperately need. It's horrific to spend 20 odd years with someone and their loyalty shifts just like that.
Prepare for the divorce, he'll have her behind him and he'll fight for every penny.

Good luck and so pleased you're with friends for your birthday 😊

He has never ever showed so much of a hint of being a narcissist. Since he met this woman who has “taught him to prioritise himself” it’s very clear he has learned this behaviour from her.

I also doubt he will ever really wake up to it. He is clearly on a self preservation trajectory and it matters not a jot who is the collateral damage. I often wonder if he lies there at night thinking of what he has done, as I feel there has to be some of “the old him” in there, but I know he is an expert at stuffing down emotions and compartmentalising. He always has been. But he was never a selfish, cruel coward before.

It gives me so much hope to hear other people’s stories who have come out of the other side of this. I know I have to don my armour as I’m fighting against the both of them and she has been dripping poison into his ear about me for weeks. I don’t want a fight, I want peace and no more pain.

He has finally responded to the divorce petition today, said the reason for the delay was he was awaiting clarification on a point, which he received today. I can only think it was something to do with the fact I’ve applied for a financial order as there’s nothing particularly difficult to understand within the application. Of course that’s likely to have spooked him as he already thinks I’m only after his money. Either that or it will be something to do with his LTIP share scheme at work which he doesn’t want to have to declare, but I think he does. It’s such a complex matter and honestly, it rankles given there is no way he could have attained such a high level role if it wasn’t for my support, due to the extensive work travel. Makes me laugh really as he talks about wanting our daughter 50/50 (not that she wants this!) but since the beginning of the year he has spent 31 nights/42 days away travelling with work so he clearly can’t facilitate this.

My real life supporters have been my lifeline. I do know he doesn’t have that as anyone who knows the truth is horrified by his behaviour and anyone he has spoken to hasn’t had the whole truth.

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TheFormidableMrsC · 01/07/2025 22:19

Happy birthday OP. I too have walked this mile and my story is very similar. I suffered significant abuse from OW who is a malignant narcissist and utterly cruel. Practicalities first, a good solicitor is a must. This sounds quite high value and you will get at least 50% of everything (including his shares and pension) and he’s in for a fucking great shock. Please do not finalise a divorce before the finances. It’s really important you have good legal advice. Also put a maintenance claim in immediately for your child. Don’t mess a pot with it, just do it. He’s going to have to suck it up.

Read up on the “grey rock” method. Buy The Chump Lady book, that absolutely helped me so much. Seek some counselling for you and your girl. Do not play the “pick me” dance. Leave him with his vile bit of stuff and let the realities kick in for them. I’d also perhaps meet with her husband who is no doubt feeling the same as you. Your daughter is old enough to make her own decisions about contact. How he’s spoken to her is utterly disgusting.

Finally, you WILL get through it. I would say it took me a five or six years to recover but I had a toddler and the divorce was protracted and high conflict. There are a lot of things I wish I had done differently and I wish I had cut him off immediately and never spoken to him again. Would have been a lot easier. My life is happy and settled now and the beautiful little boy he abandoned is now a wonderful young man who he will never know. You will come out on top and it will be OK 💐

HappyHedgehog247 · 01/07/2025 22:30

I'm so sorry for what you are going through. There's lots of good advice above. I just wanted to reinforce the low/no contact and grey rock. Block OW. Get a good solicitor. Life will be good again

3C31M · 01/07/2025 23:13

You’re after his money? Couldn’t the same be said of her?

“taught him to prioritise himself” = flattered his ego but he’s too stupid to see this
Pay a solicitor to speak to him, don’t engage yourself. Live well to have the best revenge.
Happy birthday. 🍕 🍷

researchers3 · 02/07/2025 00:07

I've also walked this path unfortunately. The lies they tell themselves, and us and others are so damaging. It is the hardest and most painful thing I've ever been through by far.

Im very pleased op that you're already on with the divorce, I was too broken to do this for a long time. Plus my ex has been extremely obstructive about this.

You will be ok but it will take a while. Your poor DD. Would she go for counselling do you think?

Sounds like you also have a good support system in place which is one of the most important things I think.

FiendsandFairies · 02/07/2025 00:24

LeavesTrees · 01/07/2025 12:12

I’m so sorry to read what your husband and this woman have put you through, they sound selfish and cold and they both deserve each other.

Although it looks like everything is rosy for them, the people I know who have ended up with their affair partners have ended up in quite toxic situations - after all, they both know that the other is capable of having an affair. It’s not the basis for a happy ever after.

Although you feel completely shattered, and although you weren’t anticipating this fresh start, there is a future waiting for you even if that feels impossible.

I think you should try and treat yourself as it’s your birthday. Do something for you, something perhaps he wouldn’t have approved of, something he wouldn’t have joined in on, something that feels like sticking 2 fingers up to him.

As for your daughter, carry on being there for her, supporting her. Show her she at least has one amazing parent. She is your future, focus on that relationship, show her what female strength looks like.

See today as the first day of your new life. It doesn’t feel like it right now, but you are better off without him. Happy Birthday 💐

This!!

Totallyaddictedtoshoes · 02/07/2025 07:51

3C31M · 01/07/2025 23:13

You’re after his money? Couldn’t the same be said of her?

“taught him to prioritise himself” = flattered his ego but he’s too stupid to see this
Pay a solicitor to speak to him, don’t engage yourself. Live well to have the best revenge.
Happy birthday. 🍕 🍷

She earns more than he does! She has been telling him for months he needs to put himself first as he has been controlled for years, so he is now telling everyone he has to prioritise himself (said that to our daughter too).

The irony of this is that for the past 23 years, trying to get a decision or opinion out of him was like trying to get blood out of a stone. It drove me nuts and he knew it.

He has become totally obsessed with this woman. She was already separating from her husband, in her message to me she told me she could no longer trust him because he wrote that letter to me. Poor guy clearly shouldn’t have trusted her given her and my husband were having an affair at the time. The other husband doesn’t know the full extent, he knows they messaged and met up a lot (which is all he mentioned in his letter), he knew she had asked for an open marriage as she wanted to sleep with my husband and he knew they had kissed.

I pledged never to tell him what I know through their messages (over 900 pages worth if I were to have printed them-over the course of 3 months). I couldn’t have anyone else go through what I have as the messages have traumatised me. If their kids ever got wind of what their mother had done I could never forgive myself.

Thank you all for the birthday wishes.

OP posts:
3C31M · 02/07/2025 08:03

Irony is completely lost on her. She is manipulating your DH while telling him he has been controlled; she won’t trust her husband who she’s deceived; she seeks her husband’s consent to sleep with another man.
I don’t know how you can resist exposing them for all they have done to you and your child. Revenge won’t heal you but I’d find it hard to protect others in this situation.
You’ve passed the first birthday. Continue on your journey to a better life. 🌺

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