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How do children transition from a child arrangement order?

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RusticChill · 16/05/2025 11:01

We’ve been living under a child arrangement order, whereby the children live with mother and can choose to visit their father or not. There are days set out for the to provide these contact times To them, which periodically they don’t take up on but at the moment at least one of them will visit for a few hours.

Unless the children specifically request it (extraordinarily rare) they don’t have any contact outside of the court pointed provision. They never pick up the phone to call their father, and all phone contact is initiated from his side.

I know that he will push to continue the court order provision way beyond its expiration. The difficult I have is that, on the one hand I want to be as neutral as I can by supporting their visits, whilst at the same time supporting their right to refrain, yet on the other hand, I am concerned that there is already difficulty with the current situation as it stands, so I wouldn’t want it to go any further than it has to.

What I mean by this is that, one of the children is autistic and rules and habit are followed strictly. This means that there are times DC really prefer not to have the contact, but feel they have to force themselves to, because the invitation has gone out and involves a court order making that provision. it would be easy to extend a court order to beyond the age of 18 when it no longer replies, thus trapping someone in routines, expectations and duress.

I was wondering what other people do in a situation like this? I’m not really talking about a situation where the children have 50-50 split, because that is not the case with us. I’m more thinking of the traditional alternate-weekend arrangement or a single-day periodically, but never overnight. I’m guessing in the situation like that, a lot of the time children just refused to go (as is sometimes the case here) but children will often try to forge as much of a relationship as they can, which I support as long as they are safe, and so I do expect there will be something of contact still.

I would say it’s not exactly something that they dread, but they do feel obliged to go and often really don’t want to. Occasionally they can say no, but they’re nice people and a lot of the time they’re desperately trying to please or stick to the rules and the established routine. I should probably say that the rules and the routine are pushed by the contact parent without much consideration of what’s best for the child. there’s a lot of manipulation and guilt-tripping which doesn’t help.

The other thing is, of course, that quite selfishly, I don’t want my ex to keep turning up at my house to collect any of children - as per the (expired) court order - until they’re 30! I can actually honestly see this happening with our child who has autism because independence is a struggle at the moment. Catching a bus or cycling is out of the question. but at some point, I would really like to have my own life where my ex doesn’t come to my home. When I say Home, I’m not even talking about being invited in for a cup of tea, but it does things like stop me from being in the part of the garden where I am visible from the front. As you may have already guessed, there was an abusive situation in the past and so they won’t be a friendly parent situation sadly. Having said that, I do my duty in providing as much adherence to the court order as the children can cope with and choose to have, and genuinely support them having as good a relationship as they can possibly have with their father because that is in their best interest.

I don’t actually know an awful lot of people who have a non-50-50 split, or one that the children often don’t want to attend, or one where Autism is involved, which can slant things in one particular way. I suppose I’m not even just asking about how it would work out for a child with autism reaching the age of 18, but more anybody, neurodivergent or not.

I was wondering, do children gradually reduce contact or increase contact in their teen years and then make their own way to and from meeting the other parent once they’re 18? Or is it simply that 30-year-olds are still adhering to court orders that were established in childhood? I’m honestly wondering how the transition goes for people whether there is any commonality.

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Octavia64 · 16/05/2025 15:10

my DC went to uni at which point they sorted out their own contact.

child arrangement orders I think lapse at 18 (not lawyer) although courts do take the teen’s opinion into account from early teens.

most teens increasingly have other stuff they want to do - friends, parties, music rehearsals, gym classes, whatever and ideally it flexes quite a lot.

there are dc who still stick to it in their early twenties.

Burntt · 16/05/2025 15:17

You say the court order is expired? I thought they don’t expire until children reach adulthood.

i can’t really relate my kids are much younger but I have a similar contact pattern and one of them is significantly special needs. My experience is my abusive ex only fought for contact to reduce his maintenance and has now dropped the contact with the Sen child. Dad wasn’t facilitating the rituals and routines and didn’t make the child feel loved etc so child did not want to go. I’m also autistic myself and wouldn’t follow a routine that made me feel unsafe, I can’t talk for all autistics but I don’t think many would. So assuming your child wants to go I think you will have to allow contact to continue. Lean into the routine of it so have set times for handover not ‘some time in the afternoon’ type plans. That way you only have to avoid your garden at those set times?

or could your child be trusted to walk down the road to a cafe or something for dad to collect? Leading into adulthood practice of things like this could help with independence.

If dad cares about the kid isn’t abusive to him like he is with you could you perhaps put an email together with suggestions that will help your autistic kid feel more comfortable etc? my abusive ex reacted very badly to this and kicked off at me but he wasn’t looking to have quality time with his son just yawing him to hurt me and needed son to be difficult so he had justification for dropping contact. So maybe this won’t work for you.

if it’s a case that child feels they have to go because dad is pushing it’s a routine that has to be adhered to then I think you would know? In which case as soon as the kid reached 18 I’d have a frank conversation with my child saying a court order only applies to children and parents enforce these things for their children but as an adult they can refuse and should if that would be their preference

bostonbabe5 · 18/05/2025 12:06

Your situation sounds like mine.
My post 18 child has very low mostly text contact.
My almost 18 yr old autistic child tries desperately to to the CAO but sad is useless and he hardly ever turns up. Child is upset/disappointed every time.
I have spent lots of time explaining once 18 the CAO doesn't apply and they can only do their best to keep in contact with dad - especially thinking about how flaky dad is.
The younger one don't bother since dad decided to pick & choose when he will turn up - so voted with feet and won't leave the house.
Pick up is at our house but I leave the kids to it, and don't leave the house when/if he arrives.

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