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Do I need to be wary of him as we try and navigate divorce/coparenting?

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prettytoxic · 18/04/2025 02:32

I’ve been in a relationship with this man for 14 years. For context we have a preschool aged child. Overall he’s a good guy but he’s always had an impatient/judgemental and somewhat cold side to him.

A few examples:

  • Refusing to drive me to A&E for suspected heart issues/atrial fibrillation last year. He told me “you’re a grown up” and turned away when I said I didn’t want to go alone/drive myself.
  • If I ever struggled with anything mental health related he’d say “why can’t you just be normal” or something similar
  • when I was heavily pregnant he got full of rage one afternoon for seemingly no reason (I think it might have been because I was too pregnant to drive safely and he had to pick me up from the hairdresser, approx 7 mins drive away, but I’m not sure). That day he got up in my face, sort of bearing his teeth because I asked him why he was angry. We were outside a supermarket entrance as he did this. I backed off and went back to the car as I was shaken and embarrassed. Nothing else happened, the next day I went into labour and our daughter was born 4 weeks prematurely.
  • I experienced childhood trauma and have gone to therapy several times. When I spoke of considering further therapy he told me that I’m incapable of change or deep work on myself and that I should "just do the surface stuff" (this translates to following his advice as to how I live my life, rather than exploring this myself). He’s never been to therapy himself, of course, as he “isn’t the one who needs it”.
  • Talking unkindly to me in front of our toddler to the point where she said “stop shouting at mama” and she has frequently said “dada is mean”.
  • Financial control (potentially, but too complex to explain here and not obviously)
  • Calling me a “Fucking pushover” because I parent in a more gentle and flexible way than him and validate feelings rather than setting punitive rules as he does.
  • Slamming my laptop shut when I was sitting on the bed working on it, to the point where I thought he’d broken it (thankfully he hadn’t).

I’ll stop there but hopefully you get a sense of the type of struggles we have in our dynamic.

CUT TO TODAY:
This morning he told me that I am a terrible mother and that I do not pull my weight, and that I have no personality. He told me he was going to stay with his parents and not come back. He said that now we are separating it'll be obvious how rubbish a mum I am as “you’ll probably have your mum or childminder help you rather than doing the job YOU should be doing!”. For context my mum and childminder did used to help me when I was working full time but not any more, not for a couple of years now.

I was upset but in that moment so clear in my mind that he seemingly has different personalities - the other version of “him” (the one I married) would not say or think that of me as it is categorically untrue. I know I’m a good Mum, my daughter and I are close and I know I’m generally her secure base. I was hurt and shocked once again by his contempt towards me though. I left the room after he’d said this.

I don’t think he was expecting that anything would come of this interaction as 30 minutes later he was acting normally with me again, as if nothing had happened. But I'd had enough and so I called his bluff/escalated things and texted our families letting them know we are separating.

Now that his family know we are separating, he is acting so kind and empathetic saying that “he’ll always be there for me” and the divorce will be amicable, "you can have whatever you want/need”. For context he is also now saying he’ll continue to live here and not go to his parents. I have nowhere else to go.

I feel like I’ve got whiplash from his behaviour/attitude and I honestly don’t know how best to navigate this. My head is spinning with his hurtful words and now that he is seemingly so fine with the separation, I wonder if he ever loved me at all. I’m trying hard not to go down a “I’m so worthless” path in my head but I keep crying and can't sleep.

He has support from his parents and wider family, who are also close to our child. I’m worried he’s going to try and alienate her from me but I hope this is just paranoia on my part.

I have no money at all for legal advice (he does) so I feel quite helpless in that regard too. Can anyone advise me what I should do to protect myself/ensure the best possible outcome for my child and myself as I try to navigate coparenting and separating assets? We jointly own our home.

I'm dreading trying to put on a happy face for our child tomorrow and could do with advice on how to stay steady for her, too. Lately I feel quite disconnected with stress which makes it harder than usual for me to be present with her. Not sleeping at all tonight probably won't help either but I'm too on high alert to sleep, hence posting. Thanks in advance.

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Bigfatsunandclouds · 19/04/2025 09:56

OP this will be a rollercoaster but I agree with Pp about being prepared and getting all documents and precious items out of the house. My post separation abuse escalated in the weeks and months after I left, and it was worse than the abuse I suffered during the relationship so you need to be prepared for that BUT do not go back, it won't be better.

If you can access therapy now to help build you up please do it - I needed this to keep me strong. Be very very wary and be prepared to leave quickly as pp said pack a bag for you and DD- ideally he will leave the house and try, if you can do safely to get him to do this.

YOU'VE GOT THIS!

LurkyMcLurkinson · 19/04/2025 09:56

Be gentle with yourself today and remember if you can survive living with someone who treats you so horribly you can survive living without them.

BookArt55 · 19/04/2025 10:15

You can do this, look at everything you've gone through and you are still there with your child as your world.
Gp- therapy- 100% agree. I couldn't have done it this last year without this. Invaluable to offload and work through it all in assembly space.

You can do this. You have been doing this in an awful situation. Be proud of yourself!

prettytoxic · 19/04/2025 10:46

Today he is smirking at me because I’m struggling emotionally and he has implied once again I’m a bad Mum (as I am struggling to function/be present with him in the room and took too long away from DD getting myself ready for the day). I feel so betrayed by him but I can’t even put words to why. I also feel so angry with myself.

OP posts:
prettytoxic · 19/04/2025 10:47

I think he’s smirking because I showed vulnerability last night, he knows I feel unloveable and weak. I’ve got to get it together.

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RandomMess · 19/04/2025 10:51

Don’t be surprised if there is an OW too.

Knittedfairies2 · 19/04/2025 10:52

Saying he 'cannot control how he talks to [you]' is absolute nonsense. I'll bet he doesn't talk to his friends and colleagues like that; how he talks/acts towards you is unforgivable.

BookArt55 · 19/04/2025 10:54

You are lovable, your kids show you that. The problem is him, not you.
He will love any sign of weakness, so do your best get out of the house with the kids and do something where you have the burden of him off your shoulders. I did 6 weeks in the same house after we split, and it was awful so I understand. Stay out of the house as much as possible if you can. We lived in the library and friends/family's houses during those 6 weeks and only went back to the house either him for bedtime. It helped me to start building that confidence and wall of defence. Remember, don't tell him anything at all.
Also, go to your GP. It is the a bad thing to have counselling and antidepressants, it shows you are making steps to help yourself. It can't be used against you.

Addictedtohotbaths · 19/04/2025 10:54

Read Lundy Bancroft “Why does he do that” and apply the methods such as gray rock while you navigate a divorce from him.

The process will be tough and he’ll probably be a complete nightmare but eventually you’ll feel so happy and calm away from him and it will all be worth it.

unsync · 19/04/2025 11:26

prettytoxic · 18/04/2025 08:56

I don’t know, he’s not overtly abusive so I doubt anyone would think it’s a clear cut risky situation. Unless my perspective is totally warped. 🤷‍♀️

Whether it's overt or not, he has been abusing you. Do you realise this? Sometimes, it is hard to see it as they work very hard to condition you to believe that they are right and you are defective and lucky that they have stuck with you for so long.

You need to be extremely wary of him. Do not believe what he says as being the truth. He will be trying to manipulate you so that he gets what he wants. He does not have your or your child's best interests at heart.

Someone has already suggested WA for support, also look at https://www.rightsofwomen.org.uk/ for legal help.

Stay strong, you will be better off without him.

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iamnotalemon · 19/04/2025 12:49

I’m sorry to hear you are going through this. It sounds like PP have some advice but I just wanted to say you are amazing and your exH sounds awful so yes, please protect yourself and be wary. You are a strong, wonderful person and doing the best for yourself and your DD x

pikkumyy77 · 19/04/2025 13:09

prettytoxic · 18/04/2025 08:51

People suggesting keeping birth certificate and passports close - is this in case he tried to take DD without my consent? I highly doubt he’d do this. But I know this does happen to some people 😔

Don’t doubt the advice—you clearly have no idea how dangerous this man can be. His behavior is cruel, capricious, hostile, and only superficially erratic. However he first appeared to you (the man I married-would-never-fallacy) he hates and despises you now. He will seek any kind of advantage over you.

HuskyNew · 19/04/2025 14:09

He sounds like a total psychopath and yes I would be very wary. You can’t trust him an inch.

plan your life to have zero reliance on him.

notnorman · 19/04/2025 16:01

I had one of these. Told me we would always be ‘best friends’ when I left him.

then ended up being banned from teaching his behaviour was so bad towards me and our children.

ThisPithyJoker · 19/04/2025 16:09

Kindly, this man is not a 'good guy'. Wishing you all the best x

FeatherDawn · 19/04/2025 16:15

prettytoxic · 19/04/2025 10:46

Today he is smirking at me because I’m struggling emotionally and he has implied once again I’m a bad Mum (as I am struggling to function/be present with him in the room and took too long away from DD getting myself ready for the day). I feel so betrayed by him but I can’t even put words to why. I also feel so angry with myself.

You are a good person and a good mother.
The only way he can feel ok with himself is by tearing you down, you are a good person and he can't stand that, his weakness means he can't stand himself so he smirks and is nasty.
What type of human being can only feel good by being nasty to their partner?
A weak, abusive man.
Your child of 2 has seen right through him, it's your childhood trauma that believes him, find the real adult you, tell her she's a good mother everyday and don't let her forget that !
Flowers

BillyBoe46 · 19/04/2025 16:28

He's an abusive person. He likes to hurt you. He likes to feel in control. He likes to make you feel weak and confused. It is absolutely abuse. I think you need legal advice about the house. I think you need to be very guarded with him. It's worth talking to woman's aid to make an exit plan. Abusive people can escalate when the realise they are losing control.

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mainecooncatonahottinroof · 19/04/2025 16:33

prettytoxic · 18/04/2025 08:51

People suggesting keeping birth certificate and passports close - is this in case he tried to take DD without my consent? I highly doubt he’d do this. But I know this does happen to some people 😔

Do NOT trust him one inch. Expect the worst version of him to emerge soon. Be very careful!

Burntt · 19/04/2025 16:41

You are a good mum. He knows by making you think otherwise he weakens you and you will be more compliant. Don’t fall for it. It’s a very common tactic.

keep coming back to this post. Start a diary on your phone or emails to yourself. Both to show yourself you are a good mum and to remind yourself what he’s like when his gaslighting starts to wear you down.

I’ve seen some amazing support on here as women who don’t know each other support someone to leave abuse. Keep coming back here we can counter his mind fucking and remind you of your strength. You got this

myrtle70 · 19/04/2025 16:45

are you married? Do you work? Are you entitled to benefits (put your info as a single parent through online benefits calculator). Also put his financial income through the child maintenance calculator. If you are living separately within the home and are eligible you can apply for benefits now and then you would be able to look for somewhere to rent. Once you are away from him you will instantly feel lighter. There is a delay for benefits so the sooner you apply the better.

prettytoxic · 20/04/2025 12:58

Is it standard that he would be acting his absolute best as a Dad now? Like uncharacteristically emotionally available and patient with DD.
Meanwhile I am spiralling emotionally and cannot think straight/keep forgetting what DD has just said when I’m with her.
I feel like he drained my life energy like a vampire and blamed my subsequent lack of vitality and ability to cope on my character. I don’t see how I recover from this.
Just having a bad day, I guess.
Thanks again to all of you for the support and advice. This place has been a lifeline. I will try and action some of the legal and benefits advice when I feel a bit brighter.

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BillyBoe46 · 20/04/2025 17:32

prettytoxic · 20/04/2025 12:58

Is it standard that he would be acting his absolute best as a Dad now? Like uncharacteristically emotionally available and patient with DD.
Meanwhile I am spiralling emotionally and cannot think straight/keep forgetting what DD has just said when I’m with her.
I feel like he drained my life energy like a vampire and blamed my subsequent lack of vitality and ability to cope on my character. I don’t see how I recover from this.
Just having a bad day, I guess.
Thanks again to all of you for the support and advice. This place has been a lifeline. I will try and action some of the legal and benefits advice when I feel a bit brighter.

It's all performative. He's demonstrating that he is fabulous, a great dad and you are the problem. If only you would be xyz things would be better. Unfortunately, whatever you do will never be enough. The goal posts will keep on changing. He needs to keep you down in order to control you and also to elevate himself. He's an abusive person. You need to remember that this is not love.

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