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I am so unhappy

15 replies

Barbadosgirl · 11/01/2025 23:45

I just don’t know what to do. Been with husband for about 18 years married for 11. 2 kids. When we met he had a full time job and a house (half owned with his parents). I was a student but have become a high earning professional. He lost his job of many years about three years before we got married. He has taken the view since then he went through such a hard time with that that he should never really have to do anything work wise he didn’t want to do and he could basically rely on me to pay the bills. He kept promising me new leaves in that regard and I can see all these sliding doors moments when I should have walked away- I shouldn’t have married him. I should have put the brakes on the process to adopt our kids until he took things seriously.

He also has an expensive hobby which dominates his time, focus and his spending. It comes with items which take up a lot of room in our house and for years I had to pay storage costs for them. Due to his spending on going out and his hobby just before our first son came home we could only afford for me to be on 4 months adoption leave and I cried every day those first few weeks back as I was having a terrible time at work and I just wanted more time with my baby. My husband refused to sell any of his hobby items to fund more time off.

Over the past decade he has worked sporadically, never at proper employment with pension, benefits etc with a fair few months of nothing at all. During this time he has never stopped his hobby or going out. This means although my being a high earner, we have no savings, credit card debts of about £8k and after a reasonable middle class life (one foreign holiday a year, a cleaner, nice Christmas for the kids, leg waxing, nails and hair for me) there is not much to build up a savings pot. He has mismanaged his dad’s finances (he lives abroad and has dementia) and he now has no savings and has regularly dipped into our account to send money there which we do not have.

Over the last ten years I have done all the mental load; running the household, bills, kids arrangements, his tax returns, booking holidays etc even when I was working full time and he wasn’t. He has now had a full time job (at last) since September (he was temping there for a year before) and seems to take the view now he is doing that all issues are sorted and we should have money to spend- he does not seem to understand budgeting.

I have spent a decade begging him to work, begging him to put his hobby on the back burner for a bit, begging him to get counselling, to learn to drive to help me telling him I was struggling, telling him the resentment was building up and it would kill our relationship. Basically begging him to love me which is so pathetic. We were meant to have a third child- we were going to adopt a daughter and he promised to get a full time job, put the hobby on the back burner and work on our relationship so we could. He did nothing so that is a dream I had to let go. I see women with their baby girls and baby girls items in shops and just cry. He could have sold a chunk of his hobby items so I could have that. He would not.

We have not had sex for years as I just feel so worthless I don’t really want to have sex with anyone but especially not with him as I don’t trust him to be vulnerable with him. I have sobbed telling him how he broke my heart over the kids, how I feel I have wasted years of my life trying to get him to love me. He doesn’t seem to feel any shame over any of it. He just says there is nothing he can do about the past but he loves me and he will make changes. In ten years the only changes have been a full time job (for the past five months) and setting his alarm to help get the kids ready.

When I had to spend the last of the savings on a big leak he promised he would sell a chunk of hobby items so we could pay off the holiday. He has not and it turns out he has no intention of doing so: he is getting other people’s hobby items to sell for commission. Which he has not actually done. So no money coming.

I am either full of rage and resentment and then am crippled with guilt as the kids hate it when we argue. Or I am so low and miserable I genuinely worry about how long I can continue like this. I feel like I have wasted my best years feeling this miserable. It barely seems to affect him. He says he hates seeing what he has done to me but then will tell me I exaggerate and should be happy he is not as bad as some men.

I have looked into it and I think if I tried to leave him he could take a bigger share of the house value, claim some of my pension, claim spousal maintenance but keep all his hobby items as he had them before we were married. I feel like I am stuck forever. It is either this or the same life but in a shite flat, funding him forever and only seeing my kids half the time. I went to Uni and worked hard in this career because I didn’t want to scrimp and save like we did growing up- I wanted a nice life. My career has been pretty mediocre as well because unlike my male counterparts I have not had the support at home so I could have built up contacts and a client following etc- I just don’t have the energy for anything else. I am 45 and this is it, isn’t it?

Sorry for the long post. I have just been sat here crying after another blow up where I have told him how much I hate him for the things I have missed out on. I just didn’t know where to turn.

OP posts:
ToKittyornottoKitty · 11/01/2025 23:50

What is this mysterious hobby? I never get why people share so much on here but ‘the hobby’ is always top secret.

Can you wait it out until the kids are 18? Spousal support is quite unusual, why would he get that?

Barbadosgirl · 11/01/2025 23:56

Thanks for the compassionate response. My earnings are significantly higher than his and he would probably not be able to afford to live here and pay basic bills as well as have a place big enough for the kids. Hence the likelihood he would be able to grift off me even if we divorced.

OP posts:
ToKittyornottoKitty · 11/01/2025 23:57

Would it be 50/50 childcare or is he likely to have them more?

Barbadosgirl · 11/01/2025 23:59

50/50. I would happily have them more. But I would not agree to less.

OP posts:
Ginge88 · 12/01/2025 00:03

Spousal support is only for high earners - like £200k or so. How old are the kids? That will come into it.

I don't have exactly the same situation but I do relate a great deal. I also have a H who does v little and I will lose a lot when I leave.

You said you regretted not walking away at previous moments over the last 10 years. Well, when you're 50 - right now will be another "previous moment". We can't turn the clocks back and leave earlier, but if you stay - that doesn't fix that regret, it extends it.

You don't understand your past self and why you stayed. Well one day in the future you'll look back at you right now with the same bewilderment.

The best time to do it was before, but now is still better than never.

You will lose money. You will. But you have another 20 years of work ahead. You will have more time and freedom to make money. You can rebuild.

Surely its better to go through the pain now than accept this is it.

I'm so scared but one thing I can see is actually my husbands lack of motivation and nastiness is getting worse. The distance between us is increasing.

Good luck to you. I really don't think you'll be paying for him for any length of time. I think you'll lose ££ in the split but you get a clean break and you can rebuild you life. You have so much life to live. Good luck to you

mainecooncatonahottinroof · 12/01/2025 00:06

See a solicitor and see what's open to you.

You need to get rid of this waste of space before he drags you down any more.

And hugs x

Barbadosgirl · 12/01/2025 00:06

Ginge88 · 12/01/2025 00:03

Spousal support is only for high earners - like £200k or so. How old are the kids? That will come into it.

I don't have exactly the same situation but I do relate a great deal. I also have a H who does v little and I will lose a lot when I leave.

You said you regretted not walking away at previous moments over the last 10 years. Well, when you're 50 - right now will be another "previous moment". We can't turn the clocks back and leave earlier, but if you stay - that doesn't fix that regret, it extends it.

You don't understand your past self and why you stayed. Well one day in the future you'll look back at you right now with the same bewilderment.

The best time to do it was before, but now is still better than never.

You will lose money. You will. But you have another 20 years of work ahead. You will have more time and freedom to make money. You can rebuild.

Surely its better to go through the pain now than accept this is it.

I'm so scared but one thing I can see is actually my husbands lack of motivation and nastiness is getting worse. The distance between us is increasing.

Good luck to you. I really don't think you'll be paying for him for any length of time. I think you'll lose ££ in the split but you get a clean break and you can rebuild you life. You have so much life to live. Good luck to you

Thank you. That is so kind of you.

OP posts:
millymollymoomoo · 12/01/2025 09:10

op unless you’re a very high earner spousal is unlikely and in any case he’ll be expected to work or use benefits. The house likely will be sold and split.

he may well argue for higher share of capital but that’s not automatic that he’d get it, it will come down to what total assets are available and what needs are

you also have a strong case

see a solicitor and talk it through, they wont be able to give you exact outcome but will advise a range of likely outcomes and things for yiu to consider.

the longer you leave it the more he’ll try to get so cut your losses, and move on without this weight dragging you down.

start divorce and get rid

Barbadosgirl · 12/01/2025 17:25

Thank you for replying. I will investigate solicitors, you are right I need to know where I stand.

OP posts:
TheDork · 12/01/2025 17:41

My exH was earning around 75k and had to pay spousal maintenance til DD was 18.

TheDork · 12/01/2025 17:42

Sorry, had ro pay spousal maintenance for 5 years after decree absolute.

ShinyShona · 12/01/2025 20:18

TheDork · 12/01/2025 17:42

Sorry, had ro pay spousal maintenance for 5 years after decree absolute.

It's hard to compare cases because there are so many factors to consider. E.g.

  1. You have one child, OP has two. If ex is paying CM for two children that's more of OP's needs met and less ability for ex to pay.

  2. You might have been less capable than OP at providing for yourself. People have to be pretty useless at making enough of their own money to get SM these days. The days of people just not wanting to work and getting a soft touch judge are getting rarer.

  3. When it happened. Judiciary are toughening up on SM, UC rules have changed whether it is worth ordering and inflation means people need to earn more year on year to be able to pay it.

  4. Amount of capital to divide might have been less in your case.

  5. It is not clear whether the SM was bullied out of your ex by a solicitor or ordered by a court. Courts prefer clean breaks and most SM I see in my line of work is by "consent" (most of the payers I see would be unlikely to pay it if it went to court).

  6. Security of the payer's job. Oddly, payers of SM often find their jobs a lot less secure than they used to be when they don't want to pay....

TheDork · 12/01/2025 20:44

@ShinyShona you're right it was 1 child 15 years ago, although I was on a good salary but not earning as much as him and the court ordered him to pay because of that. I went to the CSA for maintenance.

ShinyShona · 12/01/2025 21:19

TheDork · 12/01/2025 20:44

@ShinyShona you're right it was 1 child 15 years ago, although I was on a good salary but not earning as much as him and the court ordered him to pay because of that. I went to the CSA for maintenance.

Yeah, £75k used to go a lot further in 2009 (the equivalent salary today would be at least £117k and that is just simple inflation that ignores the impact housing costs would have on the ability to pay) and judges had a lot less guidance from the top on SM back then.

There was a case in 2014 that really started to turn the tables and Wright vs Wright in 2015 gave clear direction that recipients should be making an effort to maximise their income.

Having only one child would also be quite an important factor.

All things considered - time, binding precedent, circumstances - you just cannot compare your case with the OP's in any material way I'm afraid.

ShinyShona · 12/01/2025 21:21

@TheDork Oh, also the introduction of universal credit and the fact it reduces based on SM received has been game changing since around 2016.

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