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Divorce/separation

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Seperating with young children involved

10 replies

Maise24 · 27/10/2024 09:44

I'm sure this is a question that has been mulled over a million times but I'm really stuck here.

I moved across the country to move in with my partner in 2019, to say place B. We were both born in place A, where I moved from and all my family - mum, dad, sisters, brother, grandparents live and also my OH sister, her husband, kids and close to his dad. OH and I have 2 small children aged 3 and 1. I have always wanted to move back fo place A, terribly home sick, so sad the children are being bought up so far away from their families who adore them and want to play an active role in their life. We are barely keeping heads above water here, no support network, very expensive. Place B is very affluent, posh, beautiful, great schools - but not really us - we are in normal jobs, renting, no spare money etc.

Anyway - OH and I's relationship is on very thin ice. He says I control, abuse him and gaslight him whereas I think really the opposite is true. He goes into long, stony silences where I'm left walking on egg shells wondering what I've done wrong. During arguments, he's called me a stupid btch, stupid woman, stupid cnt. None of my family and friends from back home like him and are worried about our relationship and me being so far away. We haven't been intimate in nearly 2 years since our son was conceived, I hate undressing infront of him and feel really self conscious. The other night, I was apparently snoring and he Shook me awake violently and told me to shut the F up. Anyway, you get the picture. He is wonderful with rhe kids and a great dad, always making them laugh and playing games. I absolutely cannot fault him as a father. He quite frequently tells me I can't handle looking after them (untrue) and they have a nicer time without me.

So - we've got to the point of nearly moving back to place A so many times and then he pours cold water on it at the last minute. We've gone as far as getting the children into nursery, me securing a job and then he wants to stay because he says place B is the best place for the children to be. We can't separate if we stay here as we can't afford to live separately. He told me he isn't moving across the country just for me to leave him once I'm back with my family. He's also told me I can 'F off' but I cant take the children and he said he would go to court to get an order to prevent me relocating them.

I feel so trapped. It seems the only option is to stay here together because i can't afford to be a single parent here, I am a part time nurse and even a 1 bed flat is nearly my entire salary. I really want to go home with my children and be close to my family but I don't want the kids to not to be able to see their dad lots. I said to him I could have them during the week and would bring them to him every weekend but he doesn't agree. Am I destined to be stuck here in a miserable, non intimate, sometimes very hostile and slightly scary relationship forever? I'm feeling so hopeless and depressed about it all. I think I am quite a nice person, always go out of the way to help others, kind, I'm a great mum but he tells me I'm awful, not good with the kids, always unhappy and sucking the joy out of everything. I'm starting to lose myself and it scares me.

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LemonTT · 27/10/2024 10:28

You are not destined to be stuck but you face many challenges if you want to relocate the children. The longer you leave it the more difficult it will get for the children to move.

The court is going to put the children’s needs before your preferences and wants. They put a lot of weight into the need for children to have both parents in their lives fulfilling the parental role. That’s incredibly difficult if one of you relocates a very long way away from the other. Because the children will have to travel very long distances to see the other parent and that is tiring and disruptive.

There are plenty of place you could both live that aren’t A or B. There are ways to improve income and reduce living costs. You don’t have to like or respect each other to find compromise and agree on something. You both just need to want to shield your children from the impact of your relationship breakdown and decision to move somewhere you can’t afford to live in.

millymollymoomoo · 27/10/2024 10:46

How far apart are A and B?

Maise24 · 27/10/2024 11:03

@millymollymoomoo A and B are approx 3.5 hours drive apart :(

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Maise24 · 27/10/2024 11:12

@LemonTT thank you for your reply and insight. I really don't want to take the children away from their father, I came from a broken home myself and it was really difficult for me. I always wanted the family unit but I'm worried about how this relationship will affect my children as they get older and are more aware of what's going on. Of course, I want the best for them - it's not purely a preference of where I want to live - I want them to live a life surrounded by love, where we as parents are supported and they can grow up close to their grandparents, aunties, uncles and cousins (on both mine and DH side) and feel love all around them. There is nothing tying us here - both mine and DP jobs can be done from anywhere in the country, we don't have manyfriends here and all our family are hundreds of miles away. I wanted us all to move as a family so DP and I would have time to work on our relationship and create a better environment for the children - we can't do that here as we are up to our eyeballs constantly in stress, looking after 2 young children with no one else around and working endlessly. My entire salary is taken up by rent and bills, I'm not sure what I could do to make more money as I've already trained as a nurse and am in a relatively senior position. I don't have any childcare to take on extra shifts etc whereas if we lived in place A, we would have so many relatives etc on hand to help out and give us some time to breathe and work on our relationship. It's really hard. DP wants to stay here, I'm not sure if he just wants to keep me away from my support network, he has said himself he doesn't want to move because he knows I could leave him whereas I can't here. Surely that's not right??

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millymollymoomoo · 27/10/2024 12:15

Well tbh you’ve got a few choices

  1. stay where you are and build a life for yourself ( with or without him)
  2. persuade him to move back Down as a family
  3. tell him you’re leaving and be prepared if necessary to fight a prohibited steps order if he doesn’t allow you to tahe your child

but as lemon says the more established you get where you are the harder it will be to justify a move, especially as your child grows.

your relationship doesn’t sound particularly healthy regardless

raya223 · 27/10/2024 12:22

I would start getting your ducks in order and whilst he is out one day just leave and go back to place A. I am sure he will follow and then realise what you was saying is true. The children would rather have a happier home than being in an un happy one. He may be a great dad but he does not treat you nice.

LemonTT · 27/10/2024 13:09

I think you are still being very binary in the options. However the first thing you need to do is deal with the relationship. It sounds toxic and over. Coming to terms with that means you can both start dealing with being separated co parents. If neither of you can agree then you will be fighting in court and your children will suffer emotionally if you two are at war.

Miley1967 · 27/10/2024 13:15

It would never be feasible to drive small children 3.5 hours drive each weekend each way, total madness to even think about it.
If you were to separate and stay where you are you would very likely get universal credit to help with rent and childcare etc unless you have savings over 16k.

letmego24 · 27/10/2024 13:21

I would move back home

PizzaByTheSlice · 27/10/2024 15:22

If it wasn't for work - what was the motivation for moving to Place B? If all your family are in Place A and it wasn't for career reasons - why the move?

I presume the 3 year old is due to start primary in 2026 - which means you have to register which school you want with the local authority by Jan 26. So youve just over a year to do this....You will need his permission to change school so you don't want to wait until after DC starts.

Calling you a cunt and sulking by the way is emotional abuse. You are right to want to leave. But I know how incredibly hard it is. I'm trying to leave myself with kids similar ages.

The smart way to do it would be to persuade him your relationship can only survive if you move back. Move back, get DC into the primary you want, and then leave him.

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