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Dev12 · 30/06/2024 00:13

Hi I have been with my husband for 20yrs and married over half of these hearts. We have children together as well in the equation.

i wanted to see and hear what other people think of my situation and advice you would give please.

I gave up working when I had children so I am dependent on my husband. I say dependent in financial terms, something I am greatly concerned now over as I have no career that I could have had and no way of suitably looking after my children in the way they are use too. My husband earns 6 figures and on paper I appear as if I live some rosey perfect life.

However it couldn’t be further from the truth. I try to shield my children from arguments or I try not to react to how my husband is treating me in front of the children now they are older. So I go about largely deeply upset and to be honest very sad on a day to day basis. I really have lost my sparkle and was once someone who would have a real passion for life and a very driven ans motivated person.

my children notice that their dad is moans a lot about anything. If I say something to the kids like can you listen or pick that up and put it away. His the first to get involved and chip in saying some comment to the kids. It drives me insane as I don’t need him to do that. Our children are really good kids at school and outside school and I find any ounce of negativity he jumps on and harps on about it or happy to go into a lecturer about something either me or kids have done wrong in his eyes.

if we go out for days everything has to be restricted like the kids are I’ll say will get an ice cream or drink and he’ll ask how much it is. If we’re out and the kids need a drink and we aren’t hard up then to me they need a drink or an ice cream is nice. I do put my foot down and still walk to the ice cream van etc but all the while he’ll make it evident he doesn’t agree with comments on how much anything is. So even if the kids are tucking into a nice ice cream on a hot day it’s kind of spoiled as will sit their listening to him saying how much something was. Just a real downer.

I do literally all the parenting and always have down ever since they are babies as in I take them to doctors, hospital and nurse them better. His part in it is going out for some calpo or a prescription I’ve organised as otherwise he doesn’t really get involved with anything like this. No affection or real care.

our son plays football to a high level which comes with inevitable injuries from time to time and he almost sulks well he actually does sulk of our sons injured and he gets frustrated. Or tries to tell our son that doesn’t hurt or he asks in a way how something is to our son so our son feels he has to say something is okay. His parents showed Zero compassion for anyone only themselves, if someone upset them or they was hurt in anyway physically or unwell. I feel he is exactly the same. I just find him total lacking any empathy for the kids or me it’s like he makes us all feel like we can’t complain about anything so he doesn’t have to do anything or we don’t bother him or ask anything of him. It’s just so unkind.

he no longer speaks to his parents but went to collect some last bits of his from them. He came back in a foul mood. I was waiting to do the garden with him when he got back from collecting things and because I said “are you going to do the shed” he punched a punching bag multiple times which swung and smashed a picture on the wall. All the way home his gritting his teeth at me and talking hateful to me purely because I asked a question.

the new thing is he often goes up and lays on the bed sucking on his phone any time I ask him to help with something. We are trying to do our house up. I did all the diy in our old house and I’m trying to do the what I can in the current house. Tbh I’m finding it so difficult Bcos jobs always take longer he drags things out at weekends or doesn’t really get stuck in on anything and I’m left trying to do nearly. everything.

I found on his computer a few years back that he’d met a female colleague for gym sessions and they went to dinner. I was heart broken and his first reply when I said what are these emails he said “it’s not fair on her” not me, his wife and partner of over a 15+ years nothing come out of his mouth in a way of compassion for me. I sat shaking head to toe so upset. He said to me there was nothing in it but my gut thinks there definitely must have been. Since then I’ve never looked at him the same. He doesn’t really apologise or sympathetically mean sorry as I think every time ring that he does be validates it.

the new thing is when I confront him on things he raises his voice so our neighbours can hear him and 9/10 he’ll be saying “leave me alone” like his some victim do they hear him. Yet in this scenario for instance I’ve been out with him and the kids his made it miserable the whole time moaning, picking up on everything he kids are doing. Driving erratic and talking hateful all day so when I come in I tell him what I think and then all he’ll do is raise his voice, slam doors, punch walls and say leave me alone like his some victim.

everything I do he never takes any notice of or appreciation. He’ll say how much did that cost or for instance I was painting our garden fences (we have a lot) he’ll come out and say still got those to do etc.

I decorate the kids rooms and he’ll show people them and he’ll say what he did (which will be barely anythin)
Everyone always asks how he is when we go somewhere or how’s he work and no one ever asks how I am. Yet I feel like I’m suffering silently all the time in a deep horrendous way way of sadness.

I asked him to do the shed as in sort it out as it suntidy and rammed. Bearing in mind I have planted nearly all the plants, painted all the fences there a lot. Jet washed the patio, cleaned eveything outdoors. Painted areas for the bbq, painted the shed. Organised storage done all the gardening in terms of trimming trees, bushes w s shrubs and because I ask him to sort the shed.

he goes into a raging hump banging on walls in the house, saying I’m having a go at him and he talks to me like a pig.

m I have put it to the kids before that I can’t take this as this behaviour is not what is normal and should be expected in a relationship. But they cry and get upset about us parting ways.

I just look at him and ask myself when was he ever there for me ever in a way I wanted.

I had our children. Both births were horrific really traumatic and from day one as soon as I had them in my arms I’ve carried the fort. Been happy it’s my babies the births over with done and I no longer have to live through that etc so no point mopping about feeling sorry for myself.

but when I look back how his treated me is horrendous my first born he told eveyone the first time we showed people the baby. How he’d been up and I’d slept. To put it into context I had to have an epidural Bcos my baby was stuck and for two days I had been trying to birth naturally in hospital. I was left too late and had the most awful birth. Bled out and our baby was so unwell. My priority was always our baby but I just look back and think you witnessed everything me and our child went through and you talk of yourself, paint the picture like I was off painting my nails or something not nearly dying whilst having his child.

same second child i had a fractured tailbone from birth my medication was wearing off and I said I really need something else pain wise as I am in pain.

he aggressively come up to my face in the cubicle saying if you go ask now we’ll never get out of here. He sulked Bcos I walked to the nurses station asking for pain relief and they sent a physio.

two weeks later he was arguing about taking me back to the hospital after sepsis Bcos I didn’t feel good ell still after finishing my antibiotics and his screaming at me the whole time in the car on the way there how stupid it is. How it’s unnecessary and he’ll loose his job if he has to have any more time off (he’s had the normal 2 weeks at this point) he won’t on to have a further week whereby he sat on the sofa like he’d given birth I didn’t get any real meals cooked for me or any card tbh.

now he often raises his voice over everything. Always talks negatively about me to me and says everything is my fault baiscally and he hasn’t said or acted in a way to upset me or the kids. He punches me walls and doors and slams doors.

I am heart broken because I always wanted the forever and a soul mate. I am more heart broken than anything to think the children would have a broken home and family life that I know they’d hate. Or possibly blame me for but in the future I hope they’d understand. I am scared ans frustrated that I let all my own career go Bcos I thought I was marrying someone who valued both our roles and that we would be a partnership.

i have called him a narcissist which he absolutely hates but everything I read about one he is.

I don’t know what to do. I pretend to the world everything is okay but really it is far from normal. I sheild my family from any knowledge of my home life as I don’t want people worrying or feeling upset.

but I wanted our marriage to work so much. I wanted my penguin a mate for life and I am heart broken that I have no real choice than to leave a narcissistic bully who any time I speak to him comes back with a response like he is the victim

OP posts:
PickAChew · 30/06/2024 00:19

You need to start by telling your family about this abusive shit. Let them help you. He's not going to suddenly start treating you well and he will fuck your kids up for certain.

Apileofballyhoo · 30/06/2024 00:56

Best thing for your children is to get out of the relationship. Go to a solicitor and see what the financial set up for you would be. Find out what assets he has.

Dev12 · 30/06/2024 00:56

Do you think this is abusive or am I overthinking it because I’m upset once again after a day of it.

His temper is getting worse as he shouts at me most of the time with any disagreement I ask him to speak and he just shouts at me. Or then goes onto slam his fist on a work top or slam a door as I’ve said or punch a door or something wall. Luckily the kids don’t see much they hear us arguing etc but his clever he doesn’t punch things in sight of the kids just I can see it.

I also know and think his recorded videos of me shouting at him after I’ve had enough. I wear my heart on my sleeve and I don’t need technology I hope good people will see through him.

but now I am thinking do I need to protect myself and secretly record him as I feel he’ll just use anything towards me in the end as for some unknown reason I am the source of all his problems. Yet I’m not.

again tonight I’ve stayed up, upset going through my thoughts meanwhile his been in bed hours sleeping fine.

this occurrence happens multiple times a month. All I want is a partner who supports me and I support him. We take on our responsibilities and share things where we can and just a kind nice caring way. I just feel I try to give this and I get nothing back what so ever other than criticism

OP posts:
TheShellBeach · 30/06/2024 00:57

That was a very long OP but it's obvious you need to split up.

Dev12 · 30/06/2024 01:11

I don’t why I am staying I try to hope it’ll change, I don’t want to disrupt the children’s lives so much but equally know they are older and getting to understand things aren’t right really,

I look back and I can’t get over the thought of being with someone and having children that I then don’t end up spending the rest of my life with. I can’t get past that part. I know what I receive isn’t what I deserve or justified remotely but I’m just so heart broken.

I think I’ll talk to a counsellor and work on myself as I was always such a strong person and funny and happy person and I pull that out for my kids but it’s becoming harder and harder each day now.

I can’t believe my life’s such a mess sorry I’m going to go to bed now as I’m just so upset. I appreciate your advice and words and it’s the truth on what I need to do. If anyone has been through this scenario and can help me in how I come to terms with doing what I need to do I would really appreciate the conversation.

OP posts:
AutumnColours9 · 30/06/2024 01:26

Sounds like my exH. Life much nicer and easier without the feeling of loosing myself and trying to sort out the marriage singlehandedly.
I went back to study and now support us although it can be tough. Chances are he won't bother with the kids sadly as ge sounds so selfish.
Get your life in order ready to leave.

WearyAuldWumman · 30/06/2024 02:33

Yes...tell your family and record him if you possibly can.

Fraaahnces · 30/06/2024 02:46

Of course it’s abusive. How is he a partner? You are a servant and nanny. Get your financials in order and get some recommendations for some really ball-breaking solicitors. You found the emails. Get copies. See if there are more. He is utterly loathsome. Doesn’t sound as if the kids like him much either. He certainly won’t have any interest in hanging out with them.

XChrome · 30/06/2024 03:37

Dev12 · 30/06/2024 00:56

Do you think this is abusive or am I overthinking it because I’m upset once again after a day of it.

His temper is getting worse as he shouts at me most of the time with any disagreement I ask him to speak and he just shouts at me. Or then goes onto slam his fist on a work top or slam a door as I’ve said or punch a door or something wall. Luckily the kids don’t see much they hear us arguing etc but his clever he doesn’t punch things in sight of the kids just I can see it.

I also know and think his recorded videos of me shouting at him after I’ve had enough. I wear my heart on my sleeve and I don’t need technology I hope good people will see through him.

but now I am thinking do I need to protect myself and secretly record him as I feel he’ll just use anything towards me in the end as for some unknown reason I am the source of all his problems. Yet I’m not.

again tonight I’ve stayed up, upset going through my thoughts meanwhile his been in bed hours sleeping fine.

this occurrence happens multiple times a month. All I want is a partner who supports me and I support him. We take on our responsibilities and share things where we can and just a kind nice caring way. I just feel I try to give this and I get nothing back what so ever other than criticism

It's abusive. No question about it at all. When they slam a door or the wall, the next step is to hit you. That's how it starts. Your husband is scum. He's also a cheater and had or is having an affair with that woman you mentioned.
Just get the hell out of there. You're in danger.

PivotPivotmakingmargaritas · 30/06/2024 03:47

It’s a horrible relationship… he is not your penguin or lobster no matter how much you want him to be.

How old are you? If you aren’t working it’s time to get back in start anywhere just to give yourself so financial independence..

See a lawyer and start carving out a happy life for you and your kids

Chucklit · 30/06/2024 03:59

"I have put it to the kids before that I can’t take this as this behaviour is not what is normal and should be expected in a relationship. But they cry and get upset about us parting ways."

How old are your kids when you've said this to them? You are in an awful situation no doubt, but you can't put this on your kids. This is for you to get yourself and them out of and then talk to them about relationships.
Make a plan to get yourself and them free of him. In the future you can have this talk with them but not while you're in the middle of all of this, especially if they're young. It's not fair to put that on them.

Vladthecat · 30/06/2024 04:21

Leave him.He is abusive.

Find out as much as you can about his finances.
Earnings
pension
savings
investments / shares
any properties/ their value

You will be entitled to half value of everything if you divorce him.

Get as much evidence of it all and give to your lawyer.
Secretly record him since he has done that to you, to counter any bad footage he has of you.

Tell friends and family about him.

Don’t tell him your plans until you’re ready and have all evidence you need.

Don’t discuss with your kids until you’ve left him. It’s unfair to them. You’re the adult who needs to make the decision. Your kids need you as their mum to protect them from this bully.So you make the decision and explain to them later.

BlastedPimples · 30/06/2024 07:36

What a foul man he is.

You should not be living like this.

You can be happy.

You can find work and get financial independence.

Please get rid of him. He's not normal. He's awful.

I'm so sorry.

Strictly1 · 30/06/2024 07:47

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BlastedPimples · 30/06/2024 10:03

The op asks her h to help out. What is it she does that makes her not look great?

He on the other hand is abusive.

Another victim blamer.

millymollymoomoo · 30/06/2024 10:52

This is not a healthy relationship and your children are growing up in a toxic environment

however, if you leave you also need to think about access to their dad and what that would look like as he would get overnights etc.

how old are they?

you need to take steps to independence. Can you get a part time job? Or some work to get your own income - you’ll be expected to work if you separate

do start to gather information about earnings, pensions, house equity etc so you can understand your financial situation. You’re not automatically entitled to 50%. You’re entitled to a fair share of all assets which could be 50% or more or less. This will be depend on incomes, assets, needs Etc but the basic principle would be to set you both up for financial independence and you earning your own income. You may be entitled to spousal support but this is likely to be limited and tine bound while you get in your feet. You’d get child maintenance he doesn’t have the children 50:50

in the meantime also look to some counselling to help you start to take some control back in your life.

Strictly1 · 30/06/2024 11:36

BlastedPimples · 30/06/2024 10:03

The op asks her h to help out. What is it she does that makes her not look great?

He on the other hand is abusive.

Another victim blamer.

By her own admission she shouts and involves her children - that is not right. It’s not victim blaming.
They both shout and the children are witnessing this and being involved by OP. They need to separate for their own wellbeing but more importantly for their children’s.

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