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Sudden separation and panicking over the finances

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Changeofplan · 20/12/2023 11:40

DH and I have been together 10 years, married for just over seven. His second marriage; my first. I have one young adult DC; he has two. My DC lives with us. We're both early sixties.

We've had no physical relationship at all for over two years now (my decision). In that time our marriage has been completely loveless and things have come to a head very recently following a huge argument. We've admitted we were both going to have 'The Talk' once Christmas was over, but it blew up!

So we've agreed to separate. The long and short of it is that we're going to have to put the house on the market as soon as all the little jobs to improve it are done. The garden looks awful because of the time of year but I'll do the best I can with it. We jointly own the house and he has reluctantly agreed to let me have half the equity even though I haven't paid into the mortgage in all this time. (Lots of reasons - part-time work, bringing up our three teenagers, project managing house renovations, etc etc. And then latterly for my health reasons). He's never once said 'DW I think you shou;d get a full time job and pay half the mortgage. When I asked him why he's never addressed this he said he didn't want to upset me.

I'm happy about the financial arrangement as by law he could prove that I haven't contributed to the mortgage at all and take me to the cleaners, so I am grateful for that. However, I have contributed to food, phone bills, kids' things and holidays all along. In our time together I've always earned, just not that much. He earns good money.

The issue is that we live in the south east and I'm not going to be able to afford to buy anywhere until I get a full time job, and even then I'm not sure I'll be able to. At my age and with only a very small pension I'm not looking forward to starting full time work again, but will have to suck it up. I'm more than aware that I've made myself very vulnerable financially and am furious for being so stupid. I was a single parent from day one and self-employed, hence the lack of pension.

My question is, would it be sensible to spend some of the equity on, say, six months' rent just so that my DC and I can get somewhere to live temporarily? We wouldn't do this until the house was on the market and DH would stay here, continuing to pay the big bills. I hope I'd be able to borrow the money from a family member and would pay them back as soon as the house is sold.

Despite how I can't wait to be divorced from him DH is basically a decent guy and I know he wouldn't go back on his promise. He's said that I can come and do the viewings and obviously have access to the house anytime I wanted as long as I give him notice (he got himself onto dating sites within a day).

He's suggested that DC and I move out in a couple of months or so as neither he nor I want to live together longer than we absolutely have to. The atmosphere is frosty but mostly polite, as long as we don't talk about money but I am feeling very stressed. DC will need to up their hours at work (if that's even possible) and I need to get a full time job (again, hoping and praying).

Has anyone else been in my position and had to start again from scratch in their early sixties, with a paltry pension and no guarantee of a job in the immediate future? All this with having to cope with getting my health better, coping with Christmas and all the family and not sleeping? I know things will get better at some point but right now I want to run away with the stress of it all. Any practical suggestions welcome! Thanks so much if you've got this far.

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Anita848 · 20/12/2023 22:40

I can't offer much advice aside from taking advantage of the free meetings you can get from solicitors when you first meet them. Have a list of questions ready that you want to get the answers to.
I also used this to help me save money by doing a lot of the stuff myself e.g. forms. It also helped me understand a lot of what was going on and what I could do. https://iamlip.com/
Relationships just fizzle out sometimes. Do what's best for you and you'll be okay xxx

Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 10:49

@Livinghappy That's very kind of you. Thank you for your good wishes. Happy Christmas!

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Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 10:50

@Anita848 Thank you so much :)

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Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 10:54

@Babyroobs

"Is the part time work you've been doing something which you are likely to get full time work in or would you need to use some equity to re-train? I think it could be hard to get a mortgage with only 5/ 6 years left until retirement age.
Could shared ownership be an option with your dc helping with the rent?"

I won't need to re-train as I'm going to look for administrative work but I am getting an appointment with a financial adviser to see what I can do about getting a mortgage. It's possible that My DC could have a joint mortgage with me. As you say, I'm not going to get a 25 yr mortgage myself! Thanks :)

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Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 10:55

@RandomMess Two years.

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RandomMess · 21/12/2023 10:58

Those 2 years will count towards the length of the "marriage".

You are in a very precarious financial situation unfortunately, which you are well aware of.

Shared ownership may be another option for you to consider.

Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 11:05

@tescocreditcard

"Will half the equity provide you with enough money to house yourself?"

No, sadly it won't but I'm going to see a financial adviser to see whether my DC and I could get a joint mortgage. We would probably need to borrow around £80k which along with the equity from our house will get us a small 2 bed.

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disappearingfish · 21/12/2023 11:07

I think you really, really need to think very seriously about your financial future and how you can make this work. No one, including your children, want to see you destitute in your old age. Obviously we only have a snapshot of your life but these are my thoughts:

  1. Do see a solicitor on advice on what you would be entitled to. As you say, you spent a (probably) disproportionate amount of time and money (including opportunity cost) on raising your step children. That has contributed to your poor financial situation now.
  2. Look at all housing solutions, including social housing and shared ownership. Sorry to say that you probably do need to look at moving away from the SE at some point, it really is incredibly expensive.
  3. Ditto your DC will need to be pragmatic and consider their living arrangements - house shares etc. - plus contribute more.
  4. I know a handful of divorced 60 somethings who took residential jobs - houseparent in a boarding school for example - for a few years until their financial situation resolved itself.
  5. Employment will give you more security than self-employment.
  6. Be hyper vigilant and prepared for your H to renege on any verbal agreements to date. See point 1 (solicitor).

Good luck.

Babyroobs · 21/12/2023 11:21

Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 10:54

@Babyroobs

"Is the part time work you've been doing something which you are likely to get full time work in or would you need to use some equity to re-train? I think it could be hard to get a mortgage with only 5/ 6 years left until retirement age.
Could shared ownership be an option with your dc helping with the rent?"

I won't need to re-train as I'm going to look for administrative work but I am getting an appointment with a financial adviser to see what I can do about getting a mortgage. It's possible that My DC could have a joint mortgage with me. As you say, I'm not going to get a 25 yr mortgage myself! Thanks :)

I was thinking more of shared ownership where you could use the divorce settlement to buy part of the house and then you and your son pay the rental part between you , but yes I guess a joint mortgage could be an option if his earnings allow.

disappearingfish · 21/12/2023 11:39

Just think about future-proofed solutions. If you buy joint with your DC what happens if/when they want to move, get married etc.? You could be back to square one.

Hottenan · 21/12/2023 12:31

Personally, given he paid 90% of the deposit; I think the solution is pretty fair and if you go to court it will cost a fortune in legal fees.

I would rent for a bit until your sons are out of training and then consider moving somewhere much cheaper.

Changeofplan · 21/12/2023 13:17

Thanks to everyone for your advice/opinions. I'm bowing out of the thread now as I need to concentrate on Christmas - really the last thing on my mind. But thanks anyway.

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Popetthetreehugger · 21/12/2023 13:56

Haven’t read all thread , but please forget renting , unless you know someone who is happy to rent to you . A landlord will be very doubtful as they will have to go threw all the pain again in 6 months . Plus pay for electric checks again ! My SIL found herself in the same position as you , she decided on a park home ( south east , prices mad ! ) it’s fantastic, one house down from the river . Ground rent less than flat , has garden and money in bank . Honestly she has it like a home in a magazine, micro , all pale colours , calm . She said it’s peanuts to run . Good luck

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