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How do you handle contact while children grow up?

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EveryoneAnon · 17/11/2023 09:49

We had such an awful relationship and acrimonious divorce, but although the DC live with me, there has to be a lot of contact during drop-offs and shared school meetings due to SEN needs.

I realise any contact needs to be considerate of the children, who still want their parents to be at peace and preferably still be living together -though of course there's no way that will ever happen - and it's difficult to navigate.

I am cordial, but this is the father of my children and he has done me a great deal of damage so the feelings are extremely mixed and although I am so relieved to at least be free, there's is a deep sorrow for the children and for myself because I always wanted to give a stable family situation to the children and to feel wanted in a relationship myself. I guess it kind of make you doubt your worth and I'm trying to build my confidence, but I am aware I struggle with any contact during handover.

I tried to keep interactions to a bare minimum, but he will constantly be trying to engage in conversation. My friends tell me it is to control me and I think they are right, but it's difficult to keep a distance when contact has to be had, and I'm trying to make it as reasonable and natural to the children as possible. For example, discussing Football equipment, or last-minute arrangements for matches at the door is more effective than emailing and texting if it needs to be dealt with in the moment.

If I am too nice, it feels dangerous because I am letting down my guard and I can't afford to. It also feels false because I feel too injured by him to be open enough to be really nice. If I'm open then it hurts that I've been treated so badly, so I can be cordial but just cooly cordial and not too warm. It's also stops him from pushing my boundaries of him, not entering my house, though there are times, he does try so I have to be on my guard. It really is a case of giving him an inch and he will take a mile.

Only, the children aren't stupid and they can sense my distance and sometimes I am quizzed about it but other times I might get tearful bemoaning of the fact that Mum and Dad can't get on. They ask for us to spend Christmas Day, or New Year's Day together still, and I suspect the ex would agree to it but again, only as an act of control. I can't think of a worse way to see in my New Year than with an ex who has caused me (and the DC) so much difficulty.

How do other people manage this very difficult situation? I suppose it goes without saying that it won't be helpful to hear people saying how wonderfully close they are to their ex and how everything is linked in a beautiful way for the children, because we will never have that.

I've got to do this for at least another decade and I find it very hard to think of where I'm going to get the strength from so I wondered if there are any people in the same boat and how they get through it.

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ElliePhant28 · 17/11/2023 13:49

I'm in a similar boat and I'm sorry that I can't offer advice. Friends have said "you need to get him out of your head". They have no idea what they are talking about! Unfortunately you have to co-parent for the rest of your life. It can be hellish. I had a knot in my stomach as I read your post. There's something about setting boundaries and distancing. As they get older the interaction will become less frequent. Hopefully someone with some insight will come along soon xxx

EveryoneAnon · 17/11/2023 18:10

I'm so sorry you have the same experience but thank you for your reply, it is so nice to know I am not alone! You're right; friends try to be helpful with advice but they don't know what it's like and often it's coming from people who have exes that, even though they don't have a romantic relationship anymore, can seem to get along like brother and sister or flatmates or something.

Although it's a lifelong relationship I’m sort of hoping it's significantly less when the DC are adults themselves. However, especially for the SEN side of things, the ex has a very clever way of working on them to get private information about me. Last week it was how much my mortgage is and for how long... the sort of thing that is absolutely none of his business and I feel quite private about it all. I have a close family member extremely sick and when they die I can't face him knowing and offering his false sympathy at the door. He and his family are such gossips the whole world will know all my private affairs, if he manages to still get through to the DC.

But in a way your friends are right; I do need to get him out of my head. For so long he DID occupy too much of my head and that was his control leverage. I genuinely am thankful we are over and apart from sadness that the relationship- the marriage, not him personally - didn't last, it's a relief not to live under the same roof anymore. But the person I do not miss. Not one iota.

I guess I'm also still learning to have boundaries, like his constant shouting through from the front doorway to hurry DC up when he comes to collect them, which fills the whole house in a way that can feel negatively overpowering. It seems that boundaries are only adhered to for a few times until he reverts to type again, so in other words, he doesn't respect them. It's a constant battle! I hope things get easier for you - well, for both of us really!

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MintJulia · 17/11/2023 18:16

Treat the relationship as you would a business contact. Necessary but not someone you want to socialise with.

Calm polite, but don't enthuse, don't ask or answer personal questions. Always be happy to browse your phone, be too busy to stand and chat. Make it clear he can stand on the door step but not come in.

Breezy efficiency. If he tries to get into a long discussion, say 'I can't stop now, email me the details.' and block any further attempts to chat.

He'll get the message eventually.

EveryoneAnon · 17/11/2023 18:30

You see, that is such good advice, and this is where I fall flat. I know I talked about being cool rather than warm, it's hard to do without a tinge of iciness. When I deal with business relationships, I'm very open and friendly and chatty, and I would never think to go through my phone while someone else is stood there because it feels quite rude. Likewise, I am so accustomed to putting myself last, and if someone wants to talk to me, I assume I have to put everything on hold to make time for them. This is completely turning things around on its head and is something I need to really retrain myself to do.

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RandomMess · 17/11/2023 18:40

Tell him to the wait in the car.

He either texts you or them depending on their age/ability.

If he knocks on the door open it, "I'll send the DC out ASAP" and shut the door in his face.

RandomMess · 17/11/2023 18:41

Cold weather is perfect excuse "don't want the cold air in" any stuff 'about the DC "drop me a text"

LadyMacbethssweetArabianhand · 17/11/2023 18:51

Have the children ready and watch for his car. Send them out. No need to talk to him. Everything you need to discuss, do by email. Don't answer any fake nice questions, only specific child related ones. Definitely keep the door closed on him. Watch for him trying to weasel his way inside when he returns them. Block his way if necessary. Tell him it's inappropriate. Tell your children nothing you don't want him to know. Gradually that can change but at the moment they need an information diet. If they ask for him to come for Christmas etc, just repeat, "That wouldn't be appropriate. Dad and I are split up " Don't be drawn into why or why not.

EveryoneAnon · 17/11/2023 20:42

This is so helpful for me and thank you so much. I wish there was a book with bullet points but this is a good start and I appreciate it.

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HappyHedgehog247 · 17/11/2023 20:46

Grey rock.
all communication by email text including handover details

EveryoneAnon · 17/11/2023 22:37

HappyHedgehog247 · 17/11/2023 20:46

Grey rock.
all communication by email text including handover details

How do you go to grey-rock out of the blue, when you have behaved differently (albeit under slight duress)?

I guess you just do it and offer no reason?

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RandomMess · 17/11/2023 22:56

Yep stop justifying or giving a reason. You just change what you are doing.

Decide on how you going to deal with his objections and repeat the same phrase.

"I don't think that is appropriate to our circumstances anymore" is the best I can think of at the moment.

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