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He saying I'm being petty

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Mumfirst2 · 04/08/2023 09:17

Been together 17 years childhood sweethearts married for 7 years 2 children. This is 3rd time we have split up and this time (for me) it's it. I won't keep messing with my kids heads. Last time we got back together was because he threatened to k**l himself. But now its gotten worse. He says everyone he's told the reason why we have split they think im being petty and he thinks so too. And i wont get a better man than him.
Just to name a few things (or I would be here all day) he's moody 24/7, I walk on eggshells everyday. He's lost two businesses due to laziness and burnt his bridges with a lot of people last time he didn't even tell me he had lost his main contract meaning he basically lost his job. And due to this he's in 10s of thousands of debt. He was getting parking tickets literally every day because he couldn't be bothered paying for a ticket and then didn't pay the fines which resulted in £1000s all in my name because its my car. Anytime i asked him to do anything in the house he would say no. I work full time and i do everything in the house cooking washing etc. I've had bailiffs come into my home and I've had to pay them everything I have so not to take my belongings. When he drinks he goes missing until the next day doesn't tell me where he is and drug use. although this stopped from last time.
And recently I've had non stop messages everyday saying how bad I am and he stopped speaking to me because I missed a call from him and then he watches when I'm online on social media or whatsapp. I've had enough Theres a lot more over the years. But ultimately its not the life I want anymore. I've got 2 kids to think of and the Wreckless behaviour is going to affect me and them. He is saying if I meet anyone else he will go to jail for his actions. And if I can't be with him I can't be with anyone ever. How do I stop this behaviour? And make him realise its over and he needs to stop with these silly comments.

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Mumfirst2 · 04/08/2023 10:10

@FormerlyPathologicallyHappy he tends to threaten it or sends ominous messages late at night like "take care of my kids" so I'm up all night worrying and get no sleep. I would never want him to do it not just for my kids but I still love him to bits as the dad to my kids and we've been together so long. It's just a different love now. How come it can never be straight forward people split up u move on u find someone new you're both there for your kids be friends. Or am I reaching for the stars?

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RandomMess · 04/08/2023 10:13

He is so ABUSIVE.

Speak to women's aid, complete the Freedom Programme.

FFS get the car back, see if you can hand it back with it penalty if you don't need it before he create even more debt in your name.

JibbaJab · 04/08/2023 10:24

Seems you have one similar to mine, although mine didn't threaten in that way there's no rhyme or reason to anything. You cannot reason with the unreasonable, basically.

It's all mind games all of it, it's to keep you hooked and what you may find is as soon as you stand up for yourself the worse it gets and when that control starts to slip, all the filters are gone all the crazy and venom starts to rear it's head.

Believe me you do not want to be friends with someone like this, no matter how hard you facilitate that it will end badly. Mine actually got to a point I got very sick from it all and in the end I got discarded in the most cruel way but they wanted to stay friends. Only, they weren't treating me like a human being, absolute hatred but I had to dance to their tune in order to stay in favour.

The moment I stood up for myself and said enough is enough I'm not doing this fake happy friends story, while you're treating me this way because it's confusing the children, I will see them on my own...she took everything, the house, money and our children and is now withholding and smearing my name too.

These people are not like everyone else, they are void inside and lack empathy that's why they go to the lengths and say things others wouldn't.

If he's been threatening violence, I would suggest you seek support because that is not okay.

Do not doubt yourself, that is the intention that how it works. Other people will not understand unless they have lived it. Remember, everyone else gets the nice act but they don't see the other side that's just for you.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/08/2023 10:32

If he threatens suicide again ring the police & they can do a welfare check on him. That should stop the dramatics.

What a wanky thing to say as well, "take care of my kids" as if the only thing making you take care of the kids is his existence 🙄& if he's not around you'll surrender them to the social and get a tinder profile.

Honestly I don't know how you've put up with him this long. The teenage angst would've put most of us off him years ago.

Mumfirst2 · 04/08/2023 10:37

@FormerlyPathologicallyHappy it's so frustrating because I was on egg shells living together now he's gone I'm still on egg shells. He's also saying I need to sleep with him still and when I say no that's when the nastiness starts. And the messages start. I can't go on for much longer like this it's really making me ill. My nerves are shot.

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FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/08/2023 10:43

That's so abusive, he does not get to have sex with you now.

Controlling and coercive behaviour is illegal in the uk. I think you need to make an appointment to see the police to discuss all this. You can ask for a female officer.

We had dh's ex gf arrested for assault by text message years ago for sending abusive messages day and night.

FormerlyPathologicallyHappy · 04/08/2023 10:43

Dr's appointment too, see if you can get signed off for stress and support off the gp.

Mumfirst2 · 04/08/2023 10:47

@FormerlyPathologicallyHappy I don't need it I get paid full pay from my job if I needed but it would jusy put me behind in my workload I wouldn't want to start sacrificing my job over this. I've been there 10 years and only had max 2 weeks off in that time. I wouldn't want to give him the satisfaction

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RandomMess · 04/08/2023 11:03

Please block him.

As well as WA speak to rights of women. I think you may need to get a non-molestation order and an occupation order for the home?

Start reporting him to the police.

He is very abusive.

2022NewTimes · 04/08/2023 12:41

@Mumfirst2 Screen shot your whatsapp messages....

Ofcourseshecan · 04/08/2023 17:12

But now he's saying I can never ever move on if I don't have him i have no one. I'm 31 so I'm still young but he says i have to be alone forever or he will go to jail for his actions.

OP, this is a very serious threat, presumably that he intends to kill or seriously injure you. Never, never think that men who say this will not do it.

Please contact police, because his behaviour seems to be escalating.

Was the death threat made in writing, eg on WhatsApp? Please keep screenshots of all his threats and abuse if you can.

JibbaJab · 04/08/2023 18:12

Would that not be Police, Non Molestation and Prohibited Steps Order territory?

Again, those that lack empathy are capable doing bad things...not just words. Even if my wife went this far at this point or towards our kids I'd be reporting it. It's a threat.

Please be wary OP and stay safe.

Ponderingwindow · 04/08/2023 18:21

Get a solicitor to start handling the divorce. All communication regarding the separation and divorce goes through the solicitor.

for communication regarding the children, unless it is an emergency, it should be in writing.

dont engage with him otherwise. You can’t fix him. That is why you are divorcing.

Mumfirst2 · 04/08/2023 19:03

@Ofcourseshecan I dont think he means it towards me I think he means any 'other man'. But he wouldn't do anything he's not like that at all I don't even know why he would say such things i know its out of anger. Doesn't excuse the fact that has said it though and I do have a copy of all messages sent just incase I need them.

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 04/08/2023 19:52

You're not petty you have very reasonable grounds for divorce (not that you need a fault these days).

You cannot stop him thinking you're petty or saying you are or change his mind. You can only put boundaries up for your own behaviors and what you will and won't engage in conversation wise. Focus on that

YoBeaches · 04/08/2023 20:15

Mumfirst2 · 04/08/2023 19:03

@Ofcourseshecan I dont think he means it towards me I think he means any 'other man'. But he wouldn't do anything he's not like that at all I don't even know why he would say such things i know its out of anger. Doesn't excuse the fact that has said it though and I do have a copy of all messages sent just incase I need them.

What do you mean 'just in case' you need them. What are you waiting for?

He's threatening you.
He's harassing you.
He's emotionally abusing you.

Your one step away from 'just in case'

Get a non molestation order.
Get your car back.
Change the locks.
The works.

LittleOwl153 · 04/08/2023 21:01
  1. Change your WhatsApp so that noone - him included can see when you are online.
  1. Get your car back. He will use it to hurt you.
  1. Set up a separate email address for him. Block him on EVERYTHING else.
  1. Set up a parenting app for communication re the kids.
  1. Claim CMS - this cannot be backdated.
  1. Look at your finances with regard the house. Can you buy him out? If not get it on the market. You won't be able to keep it if you can't fund it so the sooner you move to somewhere secure from him the better. Don't let him move back in though as you'll never get rid of him.

7 and most IMPORTANT REMEMBER He is ABUSIVE and treating you appallingly. You do not need a reason to leave/divorce him... but if you did you absolutely have massive ones in the way he's treating you! And what he does from here is not your fault or your responsibility.

JibbaJab · 04/08/2023 21:25

@YoBeaches @LittleOwl153 Yeah all this is valid. Normal folk don't go around making threats like that because they know it's wrong and there are repercussions for doing so. Don't leave it to chance.

Get everything you use changed and sorted out. I didn't do that initially because I didn't think they would and I got cleaned out completely, including the house and they went after all my online accounts and apps too. I managed to lock everything down but everything else is gone and was locked out of bank for two months without access to money.

Don't put anything past these kind of people.

PurpleBugz · 04/08/2023 21:32

LittleOwl153 · 04/08/2023 21:01

  1. Change your WhatsApp so that noone - him included can see when you are online.
  1. Get your car back. He will use it to hurt you.
  1. Set up a separate email address for him. Block him on EVERYTHING else.
  1. Set up a parenting app for communication re the kids.
  1. Claim CMS - this cannot be backdated.
  1. Look at your finances with regard the house. Can you buy him out? If not get it on the market. You won't be able to keep it if you can't fund it so the sooner you move to somewhere secure from him the better. Don't let him move back in though as you'll never get rid of him.

7 and most IMPORTANT REMEMBER He is ABUSIVE and treating you appallingly. You do not need a reason to leave/divorce him... but if you did you absolutely have massive ones in the way he's treating you! And what he does from here is not your fault or your responsibility.

This absolutely this.

OP he is abusive. And his comments that you will only be with him or he will go to jail for his actions are VERY CONCERNING. Don't be gaslit into minimising this. Tell the police and speak to woman's aid.

Nn9011 · 04/08/2023 21:37

LittleOwl153 · 04/08/2023 21:01

  1. Change your WhatsApp so that noone - him included can see when you are online.
  1. Get your car back. He will use it to hurt you.
  1. Set up a separate email address for him. Block him on EVERYTHING else.
  1. Set up a parenting app for communication re the kids.
  1. Claim CMS - this cannot be backdated.
  1. Look at your finances with regard the house. Can you buy him out? If not get it on the market. You won't be able to keep it if you can't fund it so the sooner you move to somewhere secure from him the better. Don't let him move back in though as you'll never get rid of him.

7 and most IMPORTANT REMEMBER He is ABUSIVE and treating you appallingly. You do not need a reason to leave/divorce him... but if you did you absolutely have massive ones in the way he's treating you! And what he does from here is not your fault or your responsibility.

All of this but also next time he threatens suicide screenshot it and send it to his parents or close family members. Let them deal with it. He'll wise up soon enough when he has to deal with people asking him about it.

strawberryblue · 04/08/2023 21:55

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