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Divorce/separation

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Is this a good partnership?

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Eirlys22 · 19/04/2023 15:36

This is the first time I’m posting on a forum like this, but I feel I need an external perspective on some of the things that have been going on in my relationship over the past decade or so. Things have come to a head in the last six months, and we are beginning mediation to separate (we are not legally married), but I still feel confused and part of me is hopeful that the relationship could be salvaged. But there are things I feel he needs to work on - am I being unreasonable?

  1. There has never been financial transparency in the relationship. He has his money and I have mine. He has always earned more than me (I don’t know how much more, but I am an academic and we live in a big house and have two luxury cars that he bought, so I assume a lot). We have a joint account that covers household expenses that we both contribute to, but I find it is often short for things like groceries, kids clothes, petrol, etc. We have two children and when on maternity leave with the youngest I was topped up the joint account on at least four occasions with between £200-£500 from my maternity pay. I recently found out (by going through his files on the advice of a lawyer) that the same year he made over £400,000. When I raised this with him he told me that I was being “ungrateful” and that he “would never let his family go without”. He also says that the reason he doesn’t put more money in the joint card is that I can’t budget, which I recognise might be true. Nevertheless, he buys designer clothes and has more than one watch worth £10K, while the only expensive things I own are presents he’s bought for me (when shopping for myself I tend to stick to charity shops or t k max), so it does feel a bit unfair. Also, since my recent work contract came to an end I haven’t been earning, and when I approached him about this he now “pays” me £1,000 a month from his company on the understanding that at least half of this will be used to top up the expenses account.
  2. When we argue, he can get very angry and intimidating - standing over me, shouting, pointing his finger in my face and attacking my personality. He has called me selfish, spoiled, entitled, weak, ungrateful, a bloodsucker, poison, mean, vindictive, and abusive (towards him and the children). I have pointed out to him how hurtful I find this, and he has made an effort not to get so angry and shout, but he does still attack my personality when confronted.
  3. He has very strong opinions about things and often makes me feel a little controlled (he says it comes from a place of love and care). For example, he will make comments about the clothes I wear being too revealing, be upset if I hang out with male friends without him, or tell me it’s “inappropriate” for me to go out for a drink with a group of people I met at a recent conference abroad. I feel like I have to censor what I tell him for fear of upsetting him or causing an argument, and so feel anxious around him and like I’m always getting it wrong somehow.
  4. I recently raised all of these things with him, and while during the conversation he seemed to take it on board, he now says I am taking things out of context, “spinning a narrative” about him, “playing the victim”, and that I have misinterpreted things. When I asked him if he could understand why I feel the way I do even if his intentions have been good, he said no, and that it was my issue to deal with.

So now I’m left wondering if I am the unreasonable one, that I am somehow misinterpreting things and blowing things out of proportion. He is a good man and a food father and perhaps it just comes down to us having different understandings of love and partnership, but I feel very confused and unsure of things and feel like no matter how hard I try I can’t make it make sense in my head, like there’s always a piece missing.

Help!

OP posts:
Mumof3confused · 19/04/2023 18:29

He’s abusive. I’d say you’re better off with it him and also your children should not have to witness his treatment of you.

GrumpyPanda · 19/04/2023 18:36

This is horrible in every which way and there is nothing normal about it. Count your lucky stars this relationship is coming to an end and don't even try to salvage it. Your partner is abusive.

millymollymoomoo · 20/04/2023 10:49

What’s the point of mediation?

Newusername21 · 20/04/2023 11:08

I'm sorry OP - You are living with an abuser.
1 = Financial control
2 = Verbal Abuse
3 = Coercive control
4 = Gaslighting

It is generally not advisable to attempt mediation with a controlling personality/ abuser.
I would consider arranging counselling for you as an individual. Get the opinion of a professional of what they think of your relationship and then take it from there. I imagine after that you will no longer be thinking of reconciliation.

Any kind of abuse or control will intensify in the run up to and during a separation so do be careful.

On a practical level try and get as much detail of your partners finances as you can.
Start thinking about how you can live separately during the process of separating.

Good Luck

Eirlys22 · 20/04/2023 12:28

Thank you all for your messages. I think deep down I’ve known that this isn’t right for a long time, but I also know that I’m
bot the easiest person to live with and that I can be a bit selfish at times, so perhaps his criticisms of me are justified. Nevertheless, I can see that regardless of his intentions this isn’t a good or healthy relationship for me and so it is time to close this chapter. He is keen to resolve things amicably and avoid court, but I also know that he still isn’t disclosing financial information and that because we’re not legally married I’m likely to get the raw end of the deal. Doesn’t matter to me so much, but I do want to ensure the children are taken care of. He’s also pushing for 50/50 custody, despite the fact that he works long hours and has only rarely been home before they’re in bed during the week. I can’t see how he will make it work, but also don’t feel like I’m in a position to fight him on this. Ultimately, if it turns nasty then the people who will be most affected are the children, and so I feel a bit stuck between a rock and a hard place. It’s also hard to accept that the person I love and have worked so hard to build a relationship with might not be quite who I thought he was…

OP posts:
Eirlys22 · 20/04/2023 12:38

Another thought: how do I know I’m not the problem? Last night, for example, we had a conversation where he said he felt like he had to walk on eggshells around me and that he was constantly worried about my feelings. He also said that I had been spinning a narrative about him and engaging in character assassination (based on the conversation where I raised the concerns I had about some of his behaviours) and that I was making him out to be someone he’s not and that it wasn’t fair. It left me doubting myself and wondering if maybe I’m the one being unfair to him - that he never knew I was topping up the expenses account from my maternity pay and so it’s unfair to blame him for that, and that he’s never allowed me or the children to go without (in fact, he just bought our daughter a £5,000 tree house). Maybe he’s just a good, supportive man and I am looking at it all wrong? I do love him and so I want to give him the benefit of the doubt

OP posts:
millymollymoomoo · 20/04/2023 15:01

I don’t get why mediation
if you’re not married all each party is due is

equity split per ownership ( joint tenants vs tenants in common )
child maintenance

plus of course agreeing child arrangements

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