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Should I get Financial Settlement or Divorce?

4 replies

Rainbowshine12 · 05/10/2022 04:47

Hi , I'm really confused about whether to go for Financial Settlement or a divorce. I feel like if it is the financial settlement that I want which is my main motivation then I should just file for divorce as that means getting a financial settlement as well? And obviously it would be nice to not be married to him anymore. Does divorce include financial settlement?
If I get a financial settlement and not a divorce, is he entitled to any money I inherit?
Family are saying that a divorce could cost thousands which I don't have and so would defeat the purpose of trying to get what I am owed.
I don't think my husband will protest against getting divorced but I do think he could be awkward when it comes to the financial part.
I am going to see a solicitor but just wanted to get some advice or views in the meantime. Thanks

OP posts:
LemonTT · 05/10/2022 07:01

A financial settlement is normally part of the divorce. You can divorce without one but you cannot have a financial settlement without a divorce. Then you would have a separation agreement which are generally pointless and leave a lot of things unresolved because you are still married and all that entails.

It is not the dissolution of the marriage that racks up legal fees it is the financial settlement. Ending the marriage is the cheap bit.

Not doing anything to agree financial settlement creates the potential for whole new set of unknown risks to arise. This includes the possibility of your inheritance or a lottery win being taken into account.

If you want a low cost divorce you both need to reasonable and correctly informed. Get some basic legal advice based on the known financials, use mediation and be prepared to accept the law as it is. Not how you want it to be.

Graciedogg · 05/10/2022 07:18

The cost of divorce if you do it yourself is £593 court fee but depending on your income, you could be entitled to fee remission.

If you get an hours consultation with a solicitor regarding finances, they will be able to give you a good idea of how the finances should be split. You can then, using this information ask your husband to attend mediation to see if you can agree finances that way. If you can't agree then the mediators will give you a miam certificate so you can make an application to court.

Rainbowshine12 · 05/10/2022 10:55

Thank you both for your replies. The advice is great and not something I was aware of before.

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creideamhdóchasgrá · 31/10/2022 22:15

Financial Settlement / Divorce
To know what a fair split of assets is, and to reach a financial settlement, divorcing parties need to know what the all assets of the marriage are, and what each asset is worth.

Look at a Form E - when you have some time.

It's a long document in which each party sets out their assets, income, and financial needs. In Form E you can read about the assets that are taken into consideration upon divorce and in the financial settlement aspect, for example property (the former marital home/second homes), pensions, bonds, stocks and shares etc.

Form E also lists the documents needed to show the value of each of these assets for example CETVs (cash equivalent transfer values of pensions - which can be requested from pension providers).

Form E shows what full financial disclosure looks like

To find out what some of the assets are worth an independent expert can be used. Property can be valued by estate agents, pensions by CETV from the pension provider, and / or a pension on divorce expert (PODE) report, and so on.

If the offer is one party keeps the house and the other keeps their pensions, how do the parties know this is fair or 50 / 50 without valuations?

It is important to decide what needs a valuation by an independent expert and factor in the costs of these. The costs can be shared and instructions to the experts can be joint.

Pensions are sometimes overlooked. They can be very valuable – equivalent or more than the value of the former martial home in some cases. Divorcing parties might hold different types of pensions (not like-for-like, so difficult to compare without an expert). Circumstances might be complex for example an age difference or pensions in payment. One party may have stayed at home to look after children. @AnnaMagnani and @silentpool made some useful comment about it on this thread:
www.mumsnet.com/talk/divorce_separation/4664756-what-do-i-need-to-do-about-our-pensions?reply=121093079

A mediator can help. In some cases this is not appropriate - the mediator will advise. Mediators are a cost effective option and it's my (limited) understanding that parties receive a report on what been agreed which they sign (the mediation agreement).

www.familymediationcouncil.org.uk/find-local-mediator/
They say on the site, "Family mediation is a process in which an independent, professionally trained mediator helps you work out arrangements for children and finances following separation".

When splitting the assets of a marriage read about what is taken into consideration here:
www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1973/18/section/25

The income, earning capacity, property, and other financial resource which each of the parties to the marriage has or is likely to have in the foreseeable future.

As I understand it, first consideration is given to the welfare (while a minor) of any child of the family who has not yet attained the age of eighteen.

The needs of each divorcing party are taken into account and as I understand it 50 / 50 is the starting point – so unequal shares based on circumstances and needs is possible, for example 60 / 40.

Advice, Guides and Links
For a free advice session about pensions on divorce and separation go to www.moneyhelper.org.uk/en/family-and-care/divorce-and-separation/divorce-or-dissolution-how-we-can-help-with-your-pension

Free advice line (busy so keep trying) rightsofwomen.org.uk

Guides on divorce and financial settlement (to read when you have time / energy)
www.advicenow.org.uk/guides/how-apply-financial-order-without-help-lawyer

Pensions on divorce information (to read when you have time / energy)
www.sharingpensions.co.uk/penaudit3.htm
www.mediateuk.co.uk/the-ultimate-guide-to-pensions-on-divorce/
www.nuffieldfoundation.org/news/new-good-practice-guide-addresses-shortfall-in-understanding-of-how-to-treat-pensions-on-divorce
Valuation of pensions – pensions on divorce expert report
www.collinspensionactuaries.co.uk no relation – useful website
www.collinspensionactuaries.co.uk/pension-data-collection/ templates for information required

Proper legal advice is needed.
(this is not my profession)

This link gives you an indication of hourly rate for solicitors
www.gov.uk/guidance/solicitors-guideline-hourly-rates

Some organisations offer free advice from solicitors and barristers rightsofwomen.org.uk/get-advice/

On their FAQs page…”Our Legal Officers and Volunteer legal advisors are all solicitors and barristers”.

Some family solicitors offer an in initial free consultation and some a fixed fee rather than hourly.

Some barristers can be directly instructed e.g., via Clerksroom Direct

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