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Divorce/separation

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Legal advice or give in?

31 replies

mynamechangemyrules · 24/07/2022 10:21

Very long story short;
I reside in the UK, home country of all of us (children and parents) and EXH lives in another country. We left with his 'acquiescence' but not legal permission (he's too canny for that..!). It has now been a year so our residence here is pretty firm standing now.
EXH doesn't tell us when he is coming over and then demands to see the children when he wants. We have acquiesced as he has not seen them in between these visits and I try to keep the relationship going as much as possible. (I send photos and videos/ get them to video call once a week min/ communicate updates with all of his family as well).
He is an extreme bully, that's why we left. He exerts coercive control, also why we left. He continues to do so.

The country where we divorced does not recognise this although evidence was cited at time of divorce.

Anyway, he sets a little 'I'm an arsehole' alarm and ALWAYS messages on the morning of their first day of holiday to crap it all up.

This time he messaged and said he doesn't approve of my plans for the holiday (foreign divorce he has veto on plans if he doesn't approve- as we are nearly always seeing friends who used to be mutuals but can't stand him he has little tantrums and blocks our plans...)

So- he is saying he will land in the uk next weekend and have all 3 DCs for 4 weeks till 31.8.

He is saying he will take legal action if they are not all delivered to him then. He puts this because all 3 have form in refusing to go (they all hate it- he schedules 'enriching' activities- usually where he self-teaches them- which they loathe and plans it around his social calendar/ desire to shop in the UK. Never relates to their interests.)

The stay will be away from their home town and means they will miss a European holiday to see friends with me, plus 2 trips in the UK to see friends and family. Incl his family who he won't see.

Anyway, part of me wants to go 'woohoo a month without the kids let's book a spa and actually get some work done'

But they.won't.go.

(He also has form for dropping them back when they misbehave/ won't do the activities he's planned- so if I plan anything it could be scuppered anyway.)

Do I

A) acquiesce (word of the day) but make it clear they stay the whole time without dropping back
B) Say that they need to come on the (uncancellable) EU holiday?
C) Seek UK legal advice for how he communicates with all of us ('your opinions are pathetic and I don't care about them, you just need to get them to me or face legal action' etc etc etc) and not allow the visitation?

I have 'sole care and control'- not sure on terms of ref used over here.

OP posts:
Craver · 24/07/2022 10:56

For goodness sake
Stop asking the opinions of random strangers like me. See a qualified person. ie Solicitor

mynamechangemyrules · 24/07/2022 11:29

Quitelikeit · 24/07/2022 10:49

You married this man and had three children with him.

one, two, three

you are painting him as the devil but the guy wants to see his kids. I understand he has not lived up to your expectations but your attitude towards him is horrendous.

it really is heartbreaking for a child when their parents speak ill of each other.

try to find a positive. I’d be quite surprised if your children weren’t looking forward to seeing their father at all!!

I have never spoken ill of him to my children, this assumption on your part is not relevant to this particular situation I am asking for advice on.

If I had the time and inclination I would list the physical and emotional abuse ladled on the children for years, I left for them and it has been absolutely ruinous in every way for me. I have tried to stick to a short version of events.

However, if what you take from my short version is 'poor him', then that is your prerogative, but not advice for me per se.

OP posts:
mynamechangemyrules · 24/07/2022 11:32

Craver · 24/07/2022 10:56

For goodness sake
Stop asking the opinions of random strangers like me. See a qualified person. ie Solicitor

Sorry to let you down Craver, but the entire premise of this site is to seek the opinions of ‘random strangers’, in the hope that their kind advice could help me, and quite possibly save my some of the thousands of pounds I have already spent seeking advice.

Luckily for me, other kind random strangers have sent many useful links and advice which will save me time and money and clarify my thoughts at this difficult time.

OP posts:
mynamechangemyrules · 24/07/2022 11:33

Thanks all others for useful tips. Sorting lunch for 3 plus mates and then getting on it! 💕

OP posts:
Goawayangryman · 24/07/2022 12:10

Oh look. The alienated fathers and their flying monkeys have shown up!

Please ignore the uh less helpful posts OP.

Cantbeliveyoufakeit · 24/07/2022 12:53

Goawayangryman · 24/07/2022 12:10

Oh look. The alienated fathers and their flying monkeys have shown up!

Please ignore the uh less helpful posts OP.

This, golden rule when posting on MN OP, take what is useful to you from the replies and completely disregard the rest. There are many kind and helpful posters on here, you just have to sort the wheat from the chaff Flowers

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