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100% of my pension??

39 replies

AuntMarysPinny · 19/06/2022 22:16

Me and my ex husband have so far amicably agreed on how we're going to split time with our children, our possessions and our finances. We were originally going to sell the family home and split the £200k equity: £130k to me and £70k to him. He earns 4x what I do so that seemed fair and we could both find a home in the area we currently live in. But the property prices have gone mad! I don't think I will be able to get a mortgage especially as I will have to declare 2 children as dependants.

So my ex has proposed that I give him all of my pension pot of £70k so he can buy a new place and he will sign over the family home to me. He thinks this is a great solution so we can start living apart and start new lives. But I feel very nervous about handing over all of my pension. It's from the job I had pre-kids in the civil service under the old final pension salary scheme (which is now closed). The work pension I pay into now isn't as generous. My ex seems to think that paying down the mortgage on the house would effectively be as good as the pension in the future but I'm not sure. It's not certain that house prices will always rise, is it? Wish I had a crystal ball!

Has anyone else been in this situation? Do you regret sacrificing your pension or was it worth it? I don't know what to do and this is threatening our amicable separation as, understandably, we are frustrated at being stuck together in the family home. Please help!

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mocktail · 29/06/2022 09:11

No no no! Do not give up any of your pension!

Schoolchoicesucks · 29/06/2022 09:30

Don't give him your final salary pension. That's guaranteed and has in built inflationary increases. Your house is not guaranteed to rise in value and is illiquid.

Has his pension been taken into consideration in the asset split? How old are the kids and will he be paying maintenance for them? Is 2/3 1/3 a fair split of equity given the impact of any career breaks you've had? Does he have any obligation to house them until they are 18 (ie to keep paying towards your mortgage)m

SkeletonFight · 29/06/2022 09:37

Have you both had CETV of your pensions done?

LibertyBlues · 01/07/2022 17:29

I've heard house prices are set to fall next year.

Do not give him your pension!

HandlebarLadyTash · 01/07/2022 17:32

No. That final salary will allow you to retire and is worth far more than the £70k

SkeletonFight · 01/07/2022 18:08

LibertyBlues · 01/07/2022 17:29

I've heard house prices are set to fall next year.

Do not give him your pension!

Yeah right I am sure house prices will fall next year 🙄

SnowyLamb · 01/07/2022 18:19

How much does £70k in a DB pension get you at retirement. I have an old DB pension forecast to pay £18k pa. The transfer value is a lot more than £70k, so I'm wondering if the pension is as valuable as it seems iyswim.

SkeletonFight · 01/07/2022 23:16

A £100,000 pension is likely to give you an annual income of between £4,000 and £5,000, which probably won’t be enough to live on during retirement from an article. It's less about her pension and more about his - the two split together.

mocktail · 02/07/2022 10:45

There's a calculator here to tell you how much a year you'd get from a defined benefit pension:

www.which.co.uk/static/tools/new-reviews/final-salary-calculator/final-salary-calculator.html

You definitely need advice on this though before agreeing to anything.

rwalker · 02/07/2022 10:56

You need facts figures and forecast .
All that said 70k not a massive pension pot if it's only going to be a small monthly income . My mum has small pension and she's no better off than if she'd never worked a day in her life , been on benefits and contributed fuck all as they would give her pension credit if that was the case.

EmilyBolton · 02/07/2022 16:48

Do not under any circumstances sell or give up any part of your final salary pension. It’s valuation will buy a fraction of the pension as defined contribution and draw down then the final salary accrural rate you have.
no. No. No.just tell him to get lost and think agian.
tbh even pension sharing orders on db pension are to be completed avoided- it’s a case of 5-2=2 and the other 1 portion going into hands of admin fees and management costs- effectively you both end up worse off.

look at all other options before this and then go to financial advisor (independent not one selling defined contribution pots) before you do anything.

LucyLocketLostThePlot · 03/07/2022 06:24

How much is his pension?

LucyLocketLostThePlot · 03/07/2022 06:25

What does he propose to cover ongoing childcare costs?

iRun2eatCake · 03/07/2022 07:13

Have you filled in Form E ? My XH earns 4x as much as me.... and therefore his pension was worth 6 x what mine is... as l am PT due to the DC.

I kept the family home as it was offset against the huge discrepancies in our financial situations.

As mentioned above you both need to get CETV and fill this form in .... with a SHL.

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