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Dawning on me he is narcissist

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Okaynevermind · 15/04/2022 19:52

Married for nearly 21 years, 3 kids now teenagers. I noticed my husband's raging outbursts gotten worse and sillier over the years. I thought age and maturity would improve him, but it hasn't, he's gotten worse. Then I noticed there's some kind of repeating cycle going on leading up to his outbursts.

These outbursts (sometimes violent) are normally packaged with a divorce threat over something dreadfully minor, such as; the way I make kids sandwiches, housework, hot cross buns, the cat, the seat in the cafe,car window and on me daring questioning him.

At first when the children were babies and young, his threats terrified me I was more vulnerable, more co-independant back then. Then the kids got a bit older, I started to get a bit more confident in challenging him back. I started to say "Go on divorce me then, I know I do it over your DIY!" Basically mirroring him hoping he sees his own behaviour towards me. It worked, this stunned him, he stopped for while. And, then he started to tell people such as my Dad that I am saying these threats making out he's all innocent and I am all horrible! I hadn't mentioned to anyone about his divorce threats to me! It's private business as far as I am concerned. Now the kids have become teenagers, he's now started saying to me "I will divorce you in 3 years time when our youngest gets 16." I say "Well, I am not sleeping with you then." So whenever he says this current latest trend of a 'future' divorce threat, I simply move myself into the lounge to sleep. He's furious, he stonewalls me lol.

I've noticed there's a cycle going on. First initial outburst, then stonewalling me till I break the stonewall, then he goes all nice, while I walk on eggshells. Then when things get 'normal', not too piled on 'nice'. I start to relax a bit, then suddenly I noticed he is getting too 'nice' again, starts deliberately taking over my jobs and chores. Then when there's a weakness spotted. Bang! He starts again! This is the cycle I noticed.

I started to noticed this is some kind of behaviour problem. I researched it and I came across the word 'narcissist'. This describes him to a 'T' Bad news isn't it? Everything fits, this means he isn't going to get better, he is going to get worse! His mother divorced his father when their youngest became 16. He is actually copying his mother and has put this proposal to me as well! He hasn't talked to his mother for 13 years, I understand his mother wasn't very mothering towards him, openly laughs telling everyone she put him on formula because he was a boy! This is probably the root cause of my husband's narcissism and I am left with the devastating baggage.

So I think I am heading for divorce after all in the end. Reading about narcissism disorder is awfully depressing omg

I am now denying the marriage bed which means no sex because I have respect for my body. This is the last boundary of me, he is trying to cross. He wants me to continue to have sex with him while I know he is going to divorce me in 3 years time upon our youngest's 16th. This is the current latest thrill for him.

Did you know? He gave away our wedding cake away to hotel staff to eat without asking me! Yeah, definitely narcissism.

I am stonewalling him this time, do nothing, respond to nothing is the advice I read on dealing with a narcissist, do not feed the troll. Kind of hoping once he realises he's lost his supply, he finally acts on his divorce and just go. I am not crying sobbing after him this time.

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Stapleton143 · 17/04/2022 10:16

I think you need to start the divorce. Not good atmosphere for your children. No fault divorce now, you don’t need him to agree. This will only get worse.

Shouldbedoing · 17/04/2022 10:21

You can divorce him. Since April you don't even need to give grounds for divorce beyond I'm done/I want out. Your 13 year old can get used to the status quo before their exam years.

FlipFlops4Me · 17/04/2022 10:25

I don't think I could spend 3 years in that atmosphere and your 13 year old shouldn't have to either. If you divorce him now then by the time GCSE's roll around your daughter will be settled and happy in the peaceful home she shares with you, and your by then ex can be creating chaos and ill-feeling elsewhere.

Landlubber2019 · 17/04/2022 10:27

Honestly this situation sounds awful, unless you can redeem this situation to build a happy retirement together 🙄 I would look to move on now. Why are you putting up with threats of divorce ? Do it now and you could be happy in 3 years instead if spending the time before the inevitable!

freeandfierce · 17/04/2022 10:27

This was me for 28 years, trust me it ramps up as they get older and can escalate. Start proceedings, you and your children deserve better than this Flowers

BritInAus · 17/04/2022 10:28

This all sounds very hard. I suggest you start divorce proceedings.

CoolToBeUncool · 17/04/2022 10:43

Yes please get out of this now. Good for you that you're playing him at his own game but it means he's going to try harder to assert his power. Things will only get nastier and more toxic; not the environment you want to expose your kids to

LadyCluck · 17/04/2022 11:10

Get out now OP. You deserve better. Don’t waste three more years waiting for him to decide what to do.

Okaynevermind · 17/04/2022 18:28

Thank you for your kind replies, yeah it has got worse now. I broke the stonewall today because he was using my daughter to pass his message to me, and we were all in the same room! Its nasty dragging my daughter into it, so I told him not to be ridiculous and grow up, just tell me not her! It was about what's for dinner, his choice of dinner obviously.

Then we started talking, but its hopeless. He's making out I moved out of the bedroom because he accused me of being lazy, no, I moved out of the bedroom because he is threatening divorce. He is completely deluded, on another planet. He thinks he so supreme, he's entitled to threaten to divorce me over anything. He even photographs all people's mistakes he works with.

So I cooked the dinner, the potatos and veg but I didn't cook his bit of steak thought he could that. Cos I didn't wanna be a complete doormat and because I didn't do that. He hit the roof and he's now withdrawing my food and charging me extra money trying to make me broke and utterly miserable.

The only income I have is my PIP I am disabled. I've contacted Women's Aid and Signhealth, I want out.

I can't afford to pay for a divorce.

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Okaynevermind · 17/04/2022 18:37

Just had a rare note from saying

"Sorry (my name) for being not all you expected me to be."

I can't make out whether it's an apology it's not is it?

Completely deluded.

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ByeByeMissAmericanPie · 21/04/2022 07:34

I walked out of a very similar situation 2.5 years ago. His behaviour was just like yours, with threats of divorce. Eggshells. Outbursts over crazy crazy stuff that’s not even on my radar.

I felt like I was in a parallel universe. Its a complete mind f*ck.

Im now in rented. Trying to buy, but life is calm and happy. I open my front door when I get home and revel in the fact that I’m not guessing what mood he’s in.

Look up Cycle of Abuse and The Freedom Programme.

PeaceLurking9to5 · 21/04/2022 07:45

Omg divorce him this instant!
Sympathies because it wont be easy divorcing him but there is a lot of information on line about how to act.
Eg, defend yourself legally but do not engage.

If he tells you that your wicked, crazy, deluded, detached from reality, entitled et cetera, and he will, respond as calmly as you can, "i agree that this is your perception of me so we must divorce".

Resist the temptation to defend yourself to him. Defend yourself in court only. You are not answerable to him. He is not judge and jury over you so resist the urge to defend yrslf. It only FEEDS the dynamic that energises him and drains you.

It's going to be tough but don't put it off. Start yr recovery 🍀💐🍷

thestraitofillinois · 21/04/2022 10:53

Okaynevermind · 17/04/2022 18:37

Just had a rare note from saying

"Sorry (my name) for being not all you expected me to be."

I can't make out whether it's an apology it's not is it?

Completely deluded.

That's not an apology. That is still placing the blame on you - '... you expected me to be'. A sincere apology would have mentioned his own failings, but presumably he can't see what his own failings are.

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