Lessons from Hancock

Shopper21544 · 2021-06-27T09:45:58+00:00

I hope that the fallout from this will persuade a few middle aged people who are frustrated with marriage and kids 15 years in to think again before throwing in the towel. Once Matt and Gina see the effect on 6 children let alone the legal bills they will soon regret being seduced by the initial fantasy. Good column on this topic by Sarah Vine in the Mail today - I wonder if Gove is listening?!!

DogsSausages · 27/06/2021 10:49

How do you know it's an initial fantasy, they have known each other for 25 years. Not excusing their behaviour.

Regulus · 27/06/2021 10:50

And that's really the lesson you take from all this?

ReadySalt · 27/06/2021 12:50

The lesson is that MH is a sleazy, scumbag. It won’t stop other sleazy, scumbags from being what they are.

DogsSausages · 27/06/2021 13:11

It probably means people will check for hidden cameras in the future and be even more sneaky. Is the SV article aimed at her husband.

millymollymoomoo · 27/06/2021 15:44

None of us know what goes on behind closed doors within a marriage
Of course that’s not to condone his affair but it’s simply not as simple to say he’s scum of the earth and she is whiter than white
What’s important is they’re able to come to suitable arrangements and not drag their kids through mud and get caught in the middle - that is the real lesson to learn

DogsSausages · 27/06/2021 16:16

I imagine the kids from both families will be embarrassed, it's bad enough thinking about your own parents have a love life but seeing the snogging and bum clenching is mortifying . They might genuinely have strong feelings for each other and end up together, whatever happens it's truly scussy and spiteful to film it and sell it to the media.

RedToothBrush · 27/06/2021 16:20

The lesson is, dont be a politician's wife.

DogsSausages · 27/06/2021 18:11

Or husband

wobytide · 27/06/2021 22:06

"Throw in the towel"

Healthy, happy marriages don't end overnight. That's the lesson you should take

pointythings · 28/06/2021 10:45

You've got the wrong lesson. The real lesson is that no-one can know what's going on in another person's marriage, and so it's best not to judge.

WimpoleHat · 28/06/2021 10:51

The real lesson is that no-one can know what's going on in another person's marriage, and so it's best not to judge

These are very wise words. Even when you know people really well, you still can’t judge their marriage.

AnneLovesGilbert · 28/06/2021 10:56

How’s it best for children for their unhappy parents to stay together?

My parents divorced, it was the best thing they ever did for our family.

Children absorb what’s going on around them. You do children no favours by giving them a crap example of adult relationships and marriage. They seek what they know and it’s irresponsible to “stay together for the kids” if you’re displaying a dysfunctional dynamic.

pointythings · 28/06/2021 11:01

AnneLovesGilbert everything you just said. I get so tired of the 'save the marriage at all costs' brigade - because it's so often the women and the DC who pay those costs.

AutumnColours9 · 28/06/2021 12:35

I agree with OP
To do that to the kids is just selfish. No reason why can't just end a marriage respectfully these days.
Affairs aren't always symptomatic of bad marriages. My FIL is on his 6th wife. They were all from affairs. At some point you realise the person is poor character and probably not marriage material.
Having affairs is a shit way to end a marriage and a sure fire way to a bitter divorce.

AlternativePerspective · 28/06/2021 12:40

Given that more people cheat than don’t (both men and women,) it is far too simplistic to say that all affairs are simply because the person cheating is scum of the earth etc etc etc. Of course some affairs will happen because it’s just in that person’s nature, but few affairs are black and white.

TBH I think the scum here are whoever sold the footage, and the media for publishing it. Not because MH necessarily deserved the privacy but because his wife and children didn’t deserve to find out because of someone’s lust for money and a good scoop. It’s pathetic.

anon12345678901 · 28/06/2021 16:17

@AlternativePerspective

Given that more people cheat than don’t (both men and women,) it is far too simplistic to say that all affairs are simply because the person cheating is scum of the earth etc etc etc. Of course some affairs will happen because it’s just in that person’s nature, but few affairs are black and white.

TBH I think the scum here are whoever sold the footage, and the media for publishing it. Not because MH necessarily deserved the privacy but because his wife and children didn’t deserve to find out because of someone’s lust for money and a good scoop. It’s pathetic.

I do agree with that, the person who got the footage didn't spare any thought for the families that were involved in this. Truth is, you can never know if a marriage is happy or not. They may have had issues going on, the most important thing now is it's kept as private as it can be, for the sake of the cheated partners and the children. It must be awful to see paps outside your door whilst you're processing this information.

SpottyBlueTeacup · 28/06/2021 18:30

I read today that the relationship was serious so they’ve probably wanted to make it public anyway - marriages do fail. I’m not saying what he did was right and I think it’s disgusting he met up with her in the middle of a pandemic when he was one of the rule makers insisting we can’t meet up with members of a different household. I keep thinking of those poor people who died with a family member near them.
He should’ve ended his marriage a long time ago. The whistleblower has know a while by the sound of it.

SpottyBlueTeacup · 28/06/2021 18:32

Without a family member with them that should say

pointythings · 29/06/2021 13:07

SpottyBlueTeacup I suppose that the lesson is don't continue in a marriage that isn't working - work on it, if that fails cooperate towards a split where everyone behaves like an adult. But don't cheat and blow everything up that way.

PaterPower · 30/06/2021 08:10

“The lesson is that MH is a sleazy, scumbag. It won’t stop other sleazy, scumbags from being what they are.”

So his affair partner is blameless in this… you know, the also-married parent of three? Is she not sleazy too?

What sickens me more than the affair itself, tbh, is that they are clearly trying to spin this as “true love” / they “just couldn’t help themselves.”

Hence all the stories in the Fail about setting up house together and how his career isn’t over.

PurpleDaisies · 30/06/2021 08:15

The lesson is if you’re shagging around behind your partner’s back, you will get found out, there’s going to be fallout and innocent people are going to get hurt.

End your relationship before moving on to the next.

Poor kids.

OssomMummy1 · 25/07/2021 05:25

@ReadySalt

The lesson is that MH is a sleazy, scumbag. It won’t stop other sleazy, scumbags from being what they are.

How do you know that? What makes you think that St Gina is a saint?