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QANON STBXH claiming MH breakdown - gave up work - accusing me of 'abuse'

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bananamango · 31/05/2021 07:54

Dear all

Hope you're enjoying some sunshine. I posted late last year/early this when I was trying to get up the courage to leave husband of 21 years inc 12 years of gradual descent into right wing conspiracy madness. Well with your help I did it in January but it's been tough since then.

He is behaving really badly - we are still cohabiting basically because he won't go and I am too stubborn/scared to move out as there are literally no rental properties in our close area that would fit me and my three teenage kids. We own two properties and have agreed to sell both and make a fresh start so until we sell one of them we are stuck here together which is hell.

He started a new 'job' - he was actually taken on as a self-employed consultant so that they could avoid employment conditions - right after we separated but only last a couple weeks before he claimed mental health breakdown and was signed off. He is being very secretive with me about this but never seemed to restart working and each time I asked about it he said he had been signed of 'for another two weeks'. Eventually he admitted that his new company had terminated his contract.

Since the separation he has claimed - incredibly - that I am a narcissist - that I have NPD and that I have narcissistically abused him for 20 years. It's just mad - and my friends say he is 'projecting'. But I am getting really worried about what he's up to strategically. He has hired a hot shot lawyer.

Earlier on in the process there were some huge and explosive horrible arguments and he drew our 14yo autistic son into them (will be subject of a different thread) and on one occasion I called the police - it was near midnight, as usual he had been drinking, and he started an argument about money. He followed me to my room and continued to accuse me of 'stealing' money. I asked him many many times to leave, to stop, that I had no idea what he was talking about, and that I was feeling very intimidated as he was standing in my doorway, arms crossed, taller and strong than me, and would not go. Eventually I threatened to call the police and when he still refused to go I called them.

After those arguments, he sent me an email saying that I should stop 'abusing' him - he had had a mental health assessment and copied extracts into the email saying he was severely depressed, that he was showing signs of PTSD, and it repeated a number of allegations he always makes like he is the only one to have worked hard on the marriage etc etc.

So, I am now really worried that this is a strategy devised by him and his solicitor to discredit me, or maybe claim that he is now totally incapable of work - he has worked his entire life up til now with no problem albeit he has been on anti-depressants the whole time I've known him - and that somehow this means he should get more of the settlement money to provide for himself as he is somehow considered disabled.

I'm actually scared, he spends all his time researching NPD and I know he is trying to build up some case against me - it's bizarre and totally untrue - but I'm frightened now about what he intends to do.

Does anyone have any thoughts or similar experience?

My friends all tell me to calm down as it looks so convenient - apparently fine up until the separation but then claims years of 'abuse', has a MH breakdown, signed of work, fired. He is 55 years old and I suspect he intends never to work again.

Thanks for reading and sorry it's so long.

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ProseccoThyme · 31/05/2021 13:22

Really sorry you're in this situation. As others have said, it's projection, lies & manipulative behaviour on his part - typical narcissistic abuse tactics.

What did the police say when you called them?

Have you spoken with Woman's Aid?

You could keep a diary of his behaviour. I have 18m worth of his recorded in a daily diary - swearing at kids/me etc.

I also self-reported at work (NHS) to protect myself in case any allegations came to light - also informed the kids school. The police wouldn't do anything until allegations became public, but I did log the accusations.

Expect the absolute worst here, and for him to drag this out.

Can you move in to one of the properties?

I am still living with my ex 20m later, as he's not playing ball.

Do what you can to protect yourself.

bananamango · 01/06/2021 07:14

@ProseccoThyme thank you so much for your msg and I'm also really sorry you're dealing with a similar situation. On the advice of friends I reported him to my GP late last year before I told him I wanted out. I told them all about his weird beliefs and that I was finding it impossible to live with.

I have kept notes of the worst episodes but I've never kept a regular diary even though I knew I should - just too busy and never make myself do it. I know that he is writing a complete novel about how awful I am - despite the fact he is now unemployed he gets up round 7am every day and spends the whole day in his office writing writing reading writing. But I also think this is part of why he's gone so mad - he's spent the last 3-4 years solitary in his office going down deeper and darker conspiracy rabbit holes on YT etc.

I desperately need to get away from him for my own MH - I feel like every single thing I do/say is being 'watched' and 'recorded' by him. We live in the north and the second property is in the south so I can't really move to it. The second property has to be sold as neither of us could afford to buy the other out of it. I urgently need a rental property but there is literally nothing around where we are and I can't move the kids to a new area. One of them is autistic and needs to stay in a familiar area really.

The best thing I've done is get the new lawyer as the first one was a highly experienced old guy but gave me no reassurance whatsoever and wouldn't answer my questions he just palmed me off with blather. When I told him about this MH assessment and that STBXH had been fired, he just wouldn't give me any answers as to what was the implication of that and what should our strategy be. I literally couldn't sleep so friend suggested there was no point paying this guy and NOT feel like I was getting any help.

The new one is female, she is still highly experienced and has a great reputation, but she actually answers my questions. I was only on the phone 5 minutes when I felt so much calmer. It took a while for my file to get transferred over to her but I have my first proper appointment this coming Friday. I am literally counting the minutes.

Thanks again @ProseccoThyme and good luck with getting out of your situation.

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Justilou1 · 01/06/2021 07:56

Your solicitor should be able to subpoena whatever he’s up to online... it won’t be cheap, but it’s traceable. Is the computer jointly-owned? Perhaps you can bug him.... He’s probably very paranoid though.,,

BewareTheBeardedDragon · 01/06/2021 10:25

Don't bug him - that would make his claims more believable.

ProseccoThyme · 01/06/2021 11:58

I found the law process to be unhelpful with coercive control types of domestic abuse. Basically "he said, she said".

3rd party corroboration egPolice, schools, social work, GP will help.

And Woman's Aid were good as well.

In my experience, abusive men up the ante when you end the relationship and unleash hell. You need to protect yourself & your children here.

Justilou1 · 03/06/2021 00:01

How would he appear if a mental health team turned up to assess him? You could have a welfare check done if he is especially ranty...

bananamango · 06/06/2021 01:14

Thanks so much for your messages. I had a call with my new solicitor on Friday and feel so much calmer about this situation now. She was unfazed by his antics and really put my mind at ease. She was really clear about the legal position and what the way forward is given what he's doing/saying. Good thing is she knows his hotshot lawyer really well and is completely cool about dealing with her.

Feeling so much better. Living with him is still diabolical - he's a total twat and we can't have a conversation that doesn't end up with him going back to berating me for how awful I am to end the marriage - but I just have to keep getting through each day and eventually I won't have to live with him any more.

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alexdgr8 · 06/06/2021 01:46

can you try to avoid having any conversations at all with him.
and can you get a lock for your room.

bananamango · 07/06/2021 18:02

@alexdgr8

can you try to avoid having any conversations at all with him. and can you get a lock for your room.
I would LOVE to never have to speak to him ever again! Seriously tho that is where we're headed as it is impossible - we cannot have a conversation of more then two lines each before he becomes mean, bitter and vengeful. He's now announced that he's been 'passed fit' to return to work - which means he can look for a job as he doesn't actually have one any more. He made a big deal of saying he will not be on any medication any more as he is convinced I am going to tear him to shreds and claim he is unfit to have the children.

He's pushed really aggressively to do mediation to save money but I just didn't think it would work given how angry he gets so quickly. Plus as I a) am not from this country b) have only lived where I am not for three years and this is HIS home town c) feel fairly isolated from my support network - I wanted the reassurance of qualified legal advice.

He will not budge from the belief that this means I want to 'take him to the cleaners' and 'have my day in court' and 'tear him to shreds'. I tried to explain that I did not want these things and just wanted to do things with a lawyer for safety but he won't have it.

Interesting you mention the lock. He has a deadlock on the door to his office from the hall, and a huge chain on the patio doors at the back of his office. But then said something yesterday that categorically showed he had gone through my handbag!

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