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Divorce/separation

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How do you broach the subject of divorce?

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Waltzine · 12/08/2020 23:26

Those of you who’ve been through it, how did you initiate the conversation about separating, and the reasons for it?

Dh must know I’m not happy. He must know I don’t like dtd as I literally ‘lie there and think of England’ while he gets on with it (and we did have discussions years ago when he wouldn’t speak to me for days till we agreed 3x pw). I know that’s not fair on him, but it’s a long story and I can’t change it now. He can’t deal with our autistic son for anything other than the happy times. Although he earns most of the household income, he does very little of the housework and i have the entire mental load. He is miserable all the time. He hates our house. He hates that ds behaves and reacts differently to the way he wants him to. He won’t eat meals with ds - well actually he will, but it either ends up in dh storming off to eat somewhere else or yelling at ds who then won’t eat. Anything I do or say comes back with a negative comment. He is mentally draining to be around.

Note that I don’t underestimate how he must be feeling, to behave like this. But I’ve tried asking about it, and he just says he’s fine.

Lockdown, i do agree, has made things worse. I had just sorted out counselling for myself before lockdown, which obv now hasn’t happened. They’ve offered sessions in the last few weeks but, as dh is still working at home I can’t think of an excuse where I get to leave the house for a couple of hours on a regular schedule, given Cv19 etc.

How do I initiate a conversation where I explain all these things? How do I say I think we should separate, but I don’t think you should have ds overnight as despite the fact you love him, you can’t deal with his behaviour? The prospect of Dh having to deal with ds alone every weekend is the main reason I’ve not had this conversation yet. It would damage ds’ mh, and dd would step up and end up as the buffer between ds and dh, which would affect her mh.

I know many answers will say that we both need counselling. I don’t think that would happen as a) I can’t imagine a time when my libido will ever improve - which isn’t fair in a marriage and b)I don’t think dh would do it and c)even if he did, the things I would have to explain re,libido, housework, inability to deal with ds...they’d send him into a tailspin and he’d just shut down, be miserable and not talk for days, weeks.

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waytheleaveswork · 12/08/2020 23:42

I organised a place to stay for a week. Moved a suitcase out secretly. Sat him down and said 'I don't love you anymore, I cannot live like this anymore. This is over. I'm sorry.' Then I repeated it calmly while he lost it, told him I would speak to him in a week to organise things. Then I left. 15 mins tops. It was terrifying.

It sounds brutal, but it is kinder in the long run. He will not give you permission to leave. Stay calm, keep it short, give him time to let it sink in with a clear time frame to discuss details.

Waltzine · 12/08/2020 23:44

@waytheleaveswork were there children involved?

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waytheleaveswork · 12/08/2020 23:46

No. Others might have better advice 're getting him to leave.

You could pack a bag for him and ask him to leave for a week to give you space. He sounds horrible.

waytheleaveswork · 12/08/2020 23:48

Best of luck though - there are better days ahead.

Waltzine · 12/08/2020 23:51

@waytheleaveswork I only think he sounds horrible as he’s not happy either. He’s not a horrible person. He just can’t deal with me and the children and the chaos we bring.

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Purplewithred · 13/08/2020 00:05

I think it is very difficult when there are children involved who can’t just be left with the other parent (I had the same thing). I suspect the main thing is what Way said and did - this is not A conversation and it’s not about getting his permission to split up. You have to tell him you are separating from him and the marriage is over.

Can you stay with anyone for a week, or even at an air b&b with D.C.? If not you’ll have to be prepared to live with him for a bit - I had to live with XDH for 14 months, and it was very very tough (but at least no sex!) but so,worth it in the end.

Waltzine · 13/08/2020 00:11

@Purplewithred I’d probably be ok living in a platonic relationship till the kids leave home. I don’t think that’s fair on him, though, as I’m the one with no libido :(

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BestDaysAheadOfMe · 14/08/2020 00:05

I was threatening divorce a few times in the past hoping he will change his ways and step up.
I think he stopped believing i will ever do it.

He then knocked out last thing that held us together - financial security. I’m now done.

There was no broaching of subject as such, it was always in the air so nothing new.

I’m waiting for him to kick off his business’ ‘big project’ to tell him that i dont like his idea of using online divorce service and will be instructing proper solicitor. A week to go.

Palaver1 · 14/08/2020 07:44

The issue you have is your child with additional needs.
I say this as a mother of a child with sld very severe .
Stress is a mild word to use for me ,I felt the blame for everything became to much had hinted then one day after he swaggered in from the gym .I mentioned it again I wanted to end it to which he replied do what you want .
I contacted a lawyer it can’t be any lawyer has to be a firm that has an understanding of children with additional needs.
Next thing he knew he got a letter in the post.
As I wait for this to be over...the feeling of unhappiness of being in the family home cannot be described.
I feel enslaved twice we have gone to court last was on Wednesday.What ever starts will end .Do it for your soul if anything else.

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