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Divorce/separation

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Negative equity, property settlement, unreliable ex

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AGapInTheMarket · 10/01/2020 02:33

Hi everyone,
I have been separated for a year from my ex husband whose drug use caused a violent psychotic episode and subsequent hospitalisation last January. When we married 7 years ago, I had just settled on a small apartment (in my name only but I'm aware it is now a marital asset) where we lived, then rented out when we took out a joint mortgage on a small house. Later that year I gave birth to our only child, now six. Throughout the marriage we both contributed roughly equally to both mortgages, with me taking a year of maternity leave and him choosing to work part time and provide afternoon care for our child for about 18 months. We have roughly equal amounts in superannuation (pensions) (~$100k each) a paid-off used car each, and no other assets or savings to speak of.
Following his discharge from hospital, I was paying the mortgage payment for both properties and all bills and costs, which decimated our combined savings. I also used our savings to pay for his two attempts at rehab, both of which he checked out of. Once the savings were gone, he maxed out his credit card, roughly $10k I think, on his living costs while he got himself together. He is now working again and earns roughly $110k. I also work full time, recently gained a promotion, and earn about $92k.
I have 100% care of our child and we have a parenting plan developed via mediation that specifies he has supervised visitation, given his history of drug abuse and psychosis. Before he disclosed his drug use he admitted that he had driven her in the car while affected by drugs and that is my main concern for her welfare. He pays child support at a rate of around $37/fortnight and I receive family tax benefit and child care subsidy.
The housing market where we live has nosedived spectacularly and both properties are in negative equity. I have remained in the house, and when the tenants gave notice it seemed sensible for my ex-husband to move into the apartment as it would have been impossible to find new tenants at the previous rental rate.
Now we are each meeting the mortgage payments of the property we are living in but the house payment is approximately 50% of my take home pay so it puts me in significant financial distress. Both properties need significant renovations and maintenance. I recently had to pay a $4000 plumber's bill to rectify some DIY work he did badly, which was pretty much all the cash I had scrimped and saved during the year. I am also paying all household bills and expenditure relating to our daughter, although when I ask he does pay half of her medical bills, etc.
My ex is currently very remorseful and has been compliant so far but I am very concerned that this will not last, and he might flake out again at any moment, especially as he has not sought help for the ongoing mental illness that he was self-medicating for in the first place. I have no way of knowing if he is still using drugs. He recently missed several mortgage payments due to an internet banking error (he says) but he didn't realise until I rang and told him. He was somewhat financially irresponsible during our marriage, such as not paying his car registration and then getting big fines, etc. I think he would like me to feel like his behaviour was "a blip" and that we can carry on as we are for the foreseeable but my trust is gone.
Remaining joint mortgagees and waiting out the housing market seems to be a financially prudent option, especially as our daughter is so young and needs the security of a familiar home, but do you in your collective wisdom have any other ideas of how to manage the situation? I am almost completely unable to save and it leaves me in a very precarious position. I have investigated the option of renting out the spare bedroom in my home but it is not in a desirable area and I am wary of moving in a stranger with my daughter, who is emotionally fragile at this time.
I think my ex would be open to negotiating a maintenance payment so I can retain the house but I don't know how to go about calculating what is fair. The parenting plan is due for review in August but I don't want him to have overnight visits and I don't think he would push for them as the current situation does suit him. I want to start divorce proceedings but am hesitant to impose the 12 months limit on the financial settlement while things are so grim. I'm in Australia if it makes any difference.
Thanks in advance for the advice x

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ToBreatheAgain · 10/01/2020 03:10

Is child support set by you or the child support agency? That seems low given his salary. I'd personally not want to stay financially tied to someone who has drug issues and quickly ran up 10K of debt. If you're still legally married and he runs up more debt that may effect your eventual financial settlement. Would splitting the properties so one goes into your name only and the other into his be an option? Selling in negative equity obviously not a great option since you'll still owe whatevers left of the mortgage and end up splitting the joint debt.

AGapInTheMarket · 10/01/2020 03:38

Hi, thanks for the reply. Australian mortgage law requires each party to take out a new mortgage, effectively refinancing, to take one party "off" the mortgage. I think I would struggle to qualify on my own with no savings and my repayments would potentially go up anyway.
The child support amount is set by the CSA and is calculated on his last years' tax return - last year, when I was supporting him facepalm - it will go up next financial year but the amounts are still really meagre considering what it really costs to be responsible for a child 100% of the time.

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ToBreatheAgain · 10/01/2020 08:29

I think from memory if income changes by more than a certain % (maybe 25) you can get a review done before end of financial year. Csa is a bit of a joke in terms of real costs of raising a child. I was going to suggest a mortgage broker to see what you could borrow, but not thinking straight. Since you'd be looking at more than a 100% loan if you're in negative equity.

It might be worth seeing a financial counsellor or financial planner to see what you're options might be and if it's worth holding onto the properties or not. There are a couple of larger Australia wide charities that provide free financial counsellors. Financial planners you have to pay to see. Best option might depend on how much negative equity you have and costs of renting versus costs of running + mortgage on existing property. The government website moneysmart has information on both.

If your stbxh was reasonable and reliable with money I'd think holding on to both properties might be the way to go, it's just the worry that he might run up more debt if his MH and addiction issues get the better of him again. It might be worth seeing a solicitor to see what effect any debts he runs up could potentially have on you. While you're still married they may well still be considered joint debts.

I'd definitely want to do financial settlement before divorcing. I know someone whose Xh is refusing to sign the financial agreement and the year is nearly up, in which case afaik it becomes a civil matter in Australia that can't be settled by the courts.

ToBreatheAgain · 10/01/2020 08:31

That should say moneysmart has information on both financial planners and financial counsellors.

abstractprojection · 10/01/2020 09:10

This is really awful, I am so sorry. I don’t know Aus law but It sounds like you need to reduce your liabilities and try to keep your home if you can.

Could your ex take over the whole mortgage of the apartment? If he can’t and is missing payments, could this be rented out to service the mortgage?

Could you get a financial agreement as part of your divorce, or separate to it (post-nip), where he agreed to sell you his half of the house at any point for the value of half of the outstanding mortgage only? And as part of this remove his right to live there, force a sale, or take out loans against it (if law allows). Also could this include higher CM payments and taking on all outstanding debt (if law allows).

It might be worth at-least looking at what foreclosure would mean, how much debt would you be left with, would bankruptcy clear it, how long until you could qualify for a mortgage afterwards, if you were to rent an apartment how much would have left to save. It’s worse case, but it might be good to at-least know what it looks like.

AGapInTheMarket · 11/01/2020 06:05

Thanks so much for your thoughtful responses.
ToBreatheAgain, I saw a financial counsellor through one of the charities and she was supremely unhelpful, basically said because I WAS managing I wasn't really eligible for help and that I should start missing mortgage payments to trigger my lender to do something!! And said since we were both "high earners" (which we are NOT in our town!) we should be smart enough to work something out!
I have recently found out my bank offers free financial advice so I suppose I will go ahead with that although I know they will have a vested interest. An independent financial advisor is about $3k which would take me the rest of the year to save!
Abstractprojection - Your idea about getting consent orders with STBXH agreeing to sell me his half of the house for the value of half of the outstanding mortgage is very useful and definitely something I will pursue, also if he can qualify for the cheaper mortgage on his own and take that over.
Unfortunately, the rental market has also bombed, plus the apartment needs work. He's rubbish at DIY too!
Keep doing the next right thing, everyone x

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ToBreatheAgain · 11/01/2020 09:27

Do you have a university near you? You mentioned not liking the idea of a lodger. Not something I'd be really happy with either, but I think I'd be comfortable with a having a female uni student lodging with me. Or 2 if you could potentially sleep in with your DD. I can't think of any other useful options so just throwing that out in case it might be something you could do.

Maybe a budgeting app might help. Go through all your bills and ring around make sure you have the best deals on insurance and utilities and Internet. There's often areas people can cut, little automatic spends like takeaway coffee. Is their an aldi near you? Or buying own brand at woolworths/coles? You can take a holiday from private health insurance if you have it for nearly 3 years without it effecting premiums. None of that will solve the problem and you may well have considered all of it already, but if you haven't it may give you a little safety barrier in case of emergency.

AGapInTheMarket · 11/01/2020 13:20

Hi, thanks again for your kind responses. I have spent the last year doing all that you suggest, and I do live very frugally - grow lots of fresh food myself for instance, and never buy clothes new. I am financially disciplined and used to living on very little so it's more the longer term implications I'm concerned about, particularly if STBXH partners up again.
The university in town is too far from my suburb to make it a desirable area for students. You really need a car. I have asked around for a friend-of-a-friend type recommendation for a lodger but nothing forthcoming. It's a small house and we would all be in each others' pockets so important they fit in. I've even considered extremely cheap/free accom in exchange for childcare but that leads to murky employee/employer territory and I'm not sure I want to go there either.
I'm continuing to brainstorm and I will book a coffee with STBXH one day soon without DD around to talk it all through with a view to coming up with a settlement via mediation that can be written up as consent orders through the court. My free appointment with the legal aid solicitor is at the end of the month so will be good to go into that with some idea of what's possible.
All the best and thanks again x

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