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Divorce/separation

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How did your first conversation go? The one where you told him you wanted a divorce?

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parrotonmyshoulder · 21/12/2019 10:58

I know this is where I’m heading. Lots of counselling (me). Many years of me thinking it’s my fault...
Blah blah blah. Anyway, I’m going to seek a divorce because I want to be out of a marriage which makes me miserable and which, I believe, is damaging to our children.
A few years ago I tried this. It ended with a couple of misguided sessions of relationship counselling, resulting in me sticking up for him and convincing myself it wasn’t all ‘too bad’.
Practicalities will wait a bit. I’m not ready for dealing with them yet.
But just to help me push past Christmas, please tell me what your first conversations were like?
He’s very uncommunicative and lacks empathy at the very best of times. It won’t be easy.

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Raffles1981 · 21/12/2019 11:02

Sounds similar to my ex husband OP. It took a few conversations before he got the message. I had to just repeat, repeat, repeat. He wanted counselling, I repeated. He wanted time apart, I repeated. If this is what you really want, all I can say is stick to your guns, keep telling him and be honest. Best of luck OP, you are making a tough choice here, but if it's right then it'll be ok in the end Flowers

MakeMineALargeProsecco · 21/12/2019 19:26

Painful, to be honest.

I told him that I thought I might be happier on my own & was considering separating- just to set the scene.

His reaction wasn't great & that really made my mind up.

The conversations we have had have been awful, initiated by me & upsetting. It's like opening Pandora's box.

Hope things go ok for you, OP.

parrotonmyshoulder · 22/12/2019 09:03

Thank you. I’m expecting painful. But I have to remember the 20 years of emotional pain that I have suffered from.

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AnneLovesGilbert · 22/12/2019 23:50

It was pretty awful and I don’t think explaining it would help you as you’ve still got to do it.

Sorry you’re going through this Flowers

cece · 23/12/2019 09:08

I'm 4 months on from the first conversation and he's still not accepting it.

It's been difficult but I know it will be worth it.

BuddhaAtSea · 23/12/2019 09:17

You’re looking at it from the wrong angle. You’re putting too much emphasis on HIM: his reaction, he will say this, he will do that. Who cares? It’s not about him and making the transition comfortable for him.
You don’t need his permission to do anything. Not his agreement. You don’t need him to be nice to you, not now, you wanted that for a long time, he’s not capable of that!!!
You’re not breaking up together, you’re breaking up from each other.

So. What do you need more: him to get it you’re going, or a new place to live? Sod him and how he’s going to take it.

I am speaking from bitter experience. I tried so hard to make it amicable, for DDs sake. Not worth it.

yellowallpaper · 24/12/2019 20:32

ExH refused to believe me until he had the decree nisi in his hand. I arranged it to arrive on our wedding anniversary in revenge for his trick of getting me to sign over half the house (to tenants in common) by having me sign something from the postman. It was a horrible shock to learn he had done that as I had constantly refused as I knew he would use it to threaten me with leaving it to a charity rather than to me if he died. It was just another way of controlling me along with the other abuse he perpetrated.

He would never discuss problems in our marriage. Every attempt sent him into a rage and he would smash things up and threaten me

BlackTulip71 · 24/12/2019 23:41

I wanted to say it for months. Never seemed to be the right time. Family events etc kept coming.

Then one morning in bed. On a school day he just said something and I blurted it out. It knocked him for six. But I cannot tell you how much better I felt afterwards.

There will never be the right time. But you will find what is right for you.

Good luck x

Palaver1 · 28/12/2019 21:54

I had being saying it he was like do your worse.
He got the notice of my intentions from solicitors
Nasty piece of shite.
He has ignored everything so now going to court

Ihavehadenoughalready · 29/12/2019 14:02

I'd already given him an ultimatum that if he did (the thing that pushed me to divorce him) one more time, and failed to seek help for himself, that it was over, I was done. We saw, at his suggestion, a couples therapist about four times, which had the effect on me of seeing he would never change if he did not wish to change ("l'm not that bad" and "lots of couples have far worse issues than we do" were said by him, and the therapist said privately to me "he's an 'interesting' guy...")

So, when proof of the thing being done again came, I said we're done. He heard but didn't hear. We attended the counseling, which helped me see he would never change. I made plans to find an attorney. He ignored the situation, then asked soon after (like nothing had been said) if I wanted to go out to eat, just he and I, not the kids. I said only if we can talk. He said sure, but acted like he didn't know what I was talking about, what did we need to talk about?

We went out, ordered our food, I told him directly that I do not wish any longer to live with you, you've done the thing again, obviously you will continue on as you have been and for this and other ongoing examples of disrespect to me and our kids, I will be finding an attorney and working out what to do next.

He was still in total shock. Total denial. I was glad I laid it out in a restaurant, in public. Glad a band was playing so the scene he created was sort of muffled. 😬 He kept saying "you think I'm that bad?" Over and over. I had to keep saying it was over, we really are done, I'm really going through with it. I think he never ever thought I'd have the guts to do it, that there would never be consequences for his behavior.

One word of advice, if you have kids. I did not warn him not to speak to the kids until we'd worked out how to tell them, so the minute we walked in the door back home, because he looked so defeated and upset, one child asked what was wrong, and he blurted out to them "well it looks like your mother and I are splitting up".

Kids took it very hard, thanks in part to his behavior.

He went into pity mode and still couldn't believe I was actually going through with it. Then turned very nasty and found his own attorney that does collaborative divorces and insisted that I use that law firm instead of the attorney I had already decided on, threw another fit when I calmly said no, I have my own attorney, and I have an appt next week, and I intend to have her file. Then became very angry that I would dare hire my own attorney rather than do the divorce at his dictation, then tried to one-up me by trying to get his law office to file first...I said go right ahead.....anyway, it all made me absolutely sure that I was doing the right thing to divorce him.

My atty and I did end up filing first. I guess the thought for my H that whomever filed would have to pay the filing fee changed his mind!

Good luck to you. Get all your statements and accounts and taxes printed out beforehand. First steps in the proceedings are a huge stack of paperwork of financial information. Make sure you have access to everything.

One step at a time.

Palaver1 · 05/01/2020 08:47

Absolutely

Twobigsapphires · 05/01/2020 16:15

Mine was pretty bad. He didn’t believe me at first, then after about a week it sank in. He went mental, threw me out the house and punched me (never raised his hand before), accused me of cheating, then the rage subsided and he went into despair, pleading begging etc. It was too late.

We actually divorced amicably in the end and worked through our grief together and actually stayed in the martial home together until it was sold. We even helped each other move.
In the 7 years we’ve been divorced we have not had a bad word against each other, but I will still remember how awful it was telling him and getting him to accept it - despite him not being happy in the marriage either, I think he just couldn’t accept the change and was scared i would screw him over like his first wife did.

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