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My wife doesn't feel the same way

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Nash82 · 17/03/2019 20:16

Evening everyone,

I'm not entirely sure what brought me to post on the site. Even thinking about writing this makes me feel like I'm betraying my wife. In my grief, I read a lot online in various places. There were quite a few threads on here, so I thought it might help me to cope. We'll see.

As the title says, my wife told me (not quite two weeks ago) that she just didn't feel the same way anymore. Since that moment, I've felt everything you'd expect. Totally sick, numb, like I'm in some weird nightmare. We've been married for 14 years and together for 18 (our entire adult lives basically). I love her so much. All I can think about is getting her back and the thought that I'll never get over this. We have two children (15 and 11). They're at home with me whilst my wife moved to her parent's place (10 minds away).

After the initial first day of me basically begging (I was in shock/grief), I've really made an effort to try and get myself sorted mentally. I'm sure my girls know I'm hurting, but I try not to let things show around them.

No matter what I do, I can't stop thinking about me wife. I'm trying to respect her decision and I understand how this must be hard on her too. She hasn't found somebody else. We argued but there wasn't any abuse. I just can't see/believe that after being together so long that her feelings have completely died. I truly believe that she feels less passion than she used to but I also believe there are still feelings there - even though they're burried.

Why did she leave? It's funny, but it took this absolute punch to the gut to wake me up. There were a number of reasons which I imagine led to her feelings decreasing. I contributed to too many of them.

My wife had a lot of outside stresses in recent years. She went back to uni to get a degree for work (whilst still working). Did brilliantly and then her job was got rid of and she had to move departments. That hurt her after all the effort she put in. She also doesn't have many close friends nor feels like she had much of an identity as she didn't have many hobbies. All this contributed to major stress.

Then there's me. As a couple, we settled in to a but of a run of the mill relationship. We'd get home and just watch TV whilst on tablets or phones. I recently started not going to bed at the same time as her (we always used to go up together). We kissed, we said the right things, but I didn't make her feel special. We still enjoyed sex, but didn't have it as often as we'd both like.

I completely neglected her feelings in terms of housework. I did stuff, but not enough. Now I've been here without her I truly see how much work she put in everyday just to keep the house clean.

All of this would have contributed to her falling out of love. I understand it. I'm so angry at myself for not realising what I was becoming. I was selfish. I didn't try new things or things out of my comfort zone. I knew she likes muddy runs, but I never tried because it wasn't my thing.

What does get me is that even up to a few days before, she was still talking about holiday plans, things we'll do later in the year etc. She sent me the cheeky messages she always did. Then just a few days later - she hit me with it. I can't wrap my head around it.

We've talked a little since but mainly about the girls. I dropped them off yesterday and she asked if I wanted to stay for dinner. I did and although we didn't talk relationship, we joked and chatted likes old times. However, the majority of messages are now distant and short. That feels like a dagger in my stomach.

I'm not sure what I'm looking for. Does anyone think I still have a chance? Will a bit of space help? What should I do? I feel lost constantly. I can barely concentrate when at work. If we can't reconcile, I want us to be friends. She was my closest friend and she would talk to me about everything too.

Thank you for those who took the time to read this rambling post.

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Nash82 · 17/03/2019 20:29

Another thing which I think didn't help was money. Our finances have always been shared. I took up the arranging the money stuff (bills etc). I know that my wife often felt like she wasn't independent, but we never got round to her doing the money with me. As she wasn't always sure how much we had disposable each month, she felt like she had to check with me when she needed something. That must have felt rubbish for her.

Even now we've just separated, I'm still sorting the money. It's just all round cr@p.

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SixDot941 · 18/03/2019 00:35

You can try. I can't promise she will listen now. If she doesn't want to listen then you should show her respect and not try to force her.

If she doesn't want you back then take all of the things that made her walk away and never do any of those things to another woman. Not being special or appreciated makes everyone sad.

Palace13 · 18/03/2019 00:39

Ask her to consider going to counselling with you

SkinnyPete · 18/03/2019 01:02

Let me get this right. She's left the family home, left her girls behind, all because she doesn't feel the same way any more? Something doesn't add up.

To feel that compelled to abandon her family, I'd expect either some form of domestic abuse, mental health problems, or another man.

Without trying to be rude, you sound awfully dependent on her and a bit needy (I know, because I've been there). All you can do is own your own shit (I.e. Don't be lazy), work on yourself (strength, fitness, clothes, mind) and do stuff that makes you happy (hobbies, projects).

Even if you don't get her back, you'll have improved yourself and will feel better about you/confidence. If she's not been unfaithful, then there's a good chance she'll respond to seeing a better version if you.

I suspect she's not interested in promises, just action. Don't plead, just do.

Redskyandrainbows67 · 18/03/2019 01:07

I think you need to do two things. 1. Take action. Implement the changes you think need doing - don’t talk about them or plead.

  1. Have in the back of your mind that very few people leave their children without either having another man OR mental health problems like depression
Nash82 · 18/03/2019 07:24

Oh, I was completely needy. I recognise that. We both were in a way and things just built up. I can guarantee there's not someone else.

Since the first day where I did get very emotional and plead a little, I've kept things together much more when seeing her/talking.

I think there may be some form of depression but I wouldn't want to suggest that right now as it could make things worse.

Started working on me - although I know that'll be a longer term thing.

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waterSpider · 18/03/2019 12:39

Sorry to hear about all this.
Yes I think you may need to give your wife some 'time and space' - something that the men usually ask for!
Have you suggested counselling? If it doesn't get you back together, it could lay the groundwork for a more amicable split.

Cynical part of me -- try to stay in the house with the kids. If she suggests that she moves back in, and you move out - do not accept that, and seek legal advice at that point!

Xenia · 18/03/2019 13:41

I couldn't work out where you all now live. If you are still in the famiy home stay there. It sounds like she moved out. Did she take the children with her?

iklboo · 18/03/2019 13:45

We have two children (15 and 11). They're at home with me whilst my wife moved to her parent's place (10 min away).

BlueMerchant · 18/03/2019 13:49

Show her this thread.

Xenia · 18/03/2019 16:29

That's unusual then. Most women don't move out and leave their children.
I would stay put, check the legal side of things, house in joint names, if there is a will etc etc and it is probably likely she might well come home even if just on legal advice to secure her rights in the home and to the children.

Nash82 · 18/03/2019 16:58

Tbf, the kids are (nearly) 12 and 15. She's able to see them without any issue as she's not far away. We rent the house so don't have any deeds or anything. She won't be getting legal advice. I'm sure on that. I think she just feels lost more than anything.

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IncrediblySadToo · 18/03/2019 17:06

I can guarantee there's not someone else

What makes you think you can guarantee that?

Tbh it sounds much like most marriages at this time in your lives.

What has she asked you to do in the past that you haven’t? (Other than more housework & muddy runs?).

I think that a letter never hurts. Write much what you wrote here

But it does sound like depression or another man.

WeakAsIAm · 18/03/2019 17:09

Honestly the reasons to leave just don't seem serious enough.
I'm currently in a very similar situation, I've told my stxh we are done.
We are both still at home with our 3 DC, the earth would move before I would leave them behind. Which is where I can't see why your DW would.
I've reached the point where I don't explain why I've ended our marriage now, spent years and years begging to sort us out to no avail. I don't care what he changes now, it will have little impact on me.
So maybe look back an try to remember the messages she gave you previously about your marriage, I would advise you need to know them to be successful in another relationship.
Tbh I think by the time most women leave it really truely is the end of the line for them, not all but I'd say the majority. Maybe prepare yourself that she isn't coming back.
I know it's very hard but it will probably be the best for both of you eventually, you just can't see it yet.

Singlenotsingle · 18/03/2019 17:10

At least your children are a little bit older, and not in need of the constant care that toddlers need. But it sounds as though your dw is just bored. You could only be in your 30s. I would start introducing some fun into your life with the girls. Plan some holidays, maybe camping or caravanning? Visit friends, grandparents, go cinema? Trips to London? (depending on where you live, of course!) It will be good for all of you, and who knows what will happen!?

Nash82 · 18/03/2019 17:35

How can I guarantee? I just know my wife I guess. It was the not acting on what I know that led to a lot of issues.

Plus, we were pretty much always together. There was literally no chance to even have an affair.

I honestly think she is suffering from depression brought on by many stresses and exacerbated by my lack of loving. I just can't mention that in a way that won't make things worse. We've talked via message quite a bit over the last couple of days. She seems like she felt that she had no independence which I can totally see.

As for the 'leaving the kids'. As I say, she hasn't really left them. She's seen them on 7 of the 13 days since moving out. Their teenage attitudes often took them off to their rooms on evenings anyway.

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Decormad38 · 18/03/2019 17:40

I would never leave my kids. That’s an odd decision for a woman to make I think! Has she suffered a break down?

Decormad38 · 18/03/2019 17:43

Op there’s a big difference for teenagers in them leaving you to go to their rooms and their mother leaving them!

Nash82 · 18/03/2019 17:48

Yeah. I don't see it that way. She's literally down the road and has seen them nearly as much as when she was in the house. I do find it interesting that a couple of comments have indicated it's a 'female' thing to not leave the kids, implying that a male could do it easier. Our two have always been very independent and they know that their mother is a phone call away if needed. My wife needed space and my family don't live nearby so I couldn't go anywhere whilst she could.

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waterSpider · 18/03/2019 17:58

How's your relationship with the in-laws? Maybe it would be easier to communicate with them, if you're not already,, about ways forward? They must be concerned ...?

Nash82 · 18/03/2019 18:51

It's really good actually. I'm probably closer with them than my own parents. I was thinking of calling them this week. I just don't want it to backfire and seem like I'm pressuring my wife. I will call them though.

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ScarletBitch · 18/03/2019 19:12

Oh OP with the best of intentions and mean you no harm, these questions you should ask your wife, not us. I am so sorry for you, but I agree with @SkinnyPete here, no mum would leave their kids because they fell out of love with their husband.

I am sorry if I sound blunt, I know how much it must hurt. Look after yourself first, the fog your mind is in will be awful, get some sleep and just respect your wife's wishes until it becomes more apparent on what is going on.

Butteredghost · 18/03/2019 19:18

I'm not sure if you should call your in laws tbh. Unless it's about some other matter, or they call you. It would seem a bit like you want to tell your side of the story so they'll convince your wife to come back. It would annoy your wife and put them in an awkward situation.

Nash82 · 18/03/2019 19:31

I thank people for their perspective. It's really interesting how people look at things very differently. The idea that she has 'abandoned' the children is crazy to me. She's moved down the road and speaks to them daily and sees them half the days. It really does seem like a male/female thing as it's not the idea that a parent has left, but their mother. Interesting stuff.

The reason for leaving isn't just that she doesn't feel the same way about us anymore. That would have been part of it and I imagine she felt like she needed to get space. I'm definitely respecting that. She's been stressed over many things for a while.

I want to discuss the separation with her more deeply, but I don't know how to bring it up without pushing her away.

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Nash82 · 19/03/2019 21:53

Tough day today. I know it's only been two weeks, but I still can't see myself ever feeling better (even though my mind is trying to logically tell me I will).

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