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Man needs women's advice - My wife is sending mixed signals

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craigajones2 · 22/06/2018 17:19

I've been deliberating on whether to write this as it feels like an admission that my marriage is over... But here goes...

A year ago I separated from my wife.

We were together 13 years and in the beginning there were alcohol issues with us both as I was trying to keep up with her drinking, plus she was 18 I was 23...i thought it was normal. She got pregnant 2.5 years into the turbulent relationship. She always said that if she ever got pregnant she would never have an abortion cos she would kill herself if she did. I hit the bullet and despite not wanting a child, I didn't want her dead either (she has history of self harming too). So I said we need to keep it. About 6 months after our sons birth I finally decided to stop drinking, but she carried on. She got pregnant 4 years later and was so happy but I was terrified as the last pregnancy was horrible and the after effects were that once our son was born and she couldn't breastfeed, she would go out every night drinking and i was home alone, except at weekends where she would ask me to give her a nice weekend to put her in a good mind for the week... And I did. I tried so much and everything but It never worked and happened for the full 4 years between pregnancies

The drinking continued all the way to the point of me walking out last year... I left because all the research I had done, all the councilling I found her, all the councillors I spoke to, the social services who got involved because of incidents happen because of drink, all said she needs to hit rock bottom to get back up... A wake up call.

I thought, after years of being lied to, cheated on, hit, called names, cleaning up the blood of her self harming, our son hearing the screaming from her and falling down stairs drunk, that I need to stop this to help her see she will lose her family. So I left and said I want a divorce.

She tried to take an overdose. She didn't fight for me. She met a guy. Even though saying no man can come close to me, or touch her as the though makes her sick. Oddly her phone was broke and I offered to fix it and I found a video of them in a hotel together. It killed me. 3 months later when I moved into my flat, the day I moved in she said she loves me and wants me back.. I said let me move in and we can discuss after. I asked if she met this guy the night I moved in she said yes but for 20 minutes and the went home and cried.

I found out a month later that she went to a hotel for the weekend with him the night she said she loved me and wanted me back. It was pain I cannot describe. When I asked why she did it she said she didn't want to hurt his feelings. Despite this I tried to move on. We have been trying on and off since October 2017 and it's not working.
She has incredible anger issues and doesn't let go of the things people have done to hurt her. My parents stopped talking to her at my request, she is furious with them for it. Saying they abandoned her. Forgetting that my parents watched me screaming in agony at her actions for 4 months whilst I lived with her. My mum has reached out to say sorry but my wife feels she should make no apology as I should always defend her 100%.

Ive not been perfect, I tried to support her. When I stopped drinking and smoking to be the best for my son, I discovered weights. Seeing the benefits, and being a person who, when they get passionate it shows, I encouraged her for fitness to help encourage her really low self esteem and depression issues. I see now it was wrong and she said she just wanted me to lover her for who she was... But how can I show love to a person who walks out on me night after night, cheats, lies, steals, name calls, wrecks a family for 9 years? I was desperate to love her. I tried to give her everything. Create a album of all the amazing things she has done and all the amazing things she is capable of... So many things... Too many to list.

Anyway, there were 2 nights where the violence and name calling was so bad I snapped and told her to f off and called her a fat b... I felt awful. She is now insisting that I did it constantly and I'm the reason she hates herself (that and because 2 days after we very first got together she asked me what my favourite thing on a woman was and, being a naive kid, I said a firm stomach... That apparently started her journey to self hatred). I understand in her world me pushing exercise is the same thing as calling her fat.

Because of the lies (who she was with, where she was, about having cancer) and cheating I find it hard to trust her. I have checked her emails and phone and always found something. A couple of weeks ago I checked her dating site and found she was back on it and giving her number out to guys. It was so painful. She said it was because she wanted to feel special and attractive... My argument is you put the effort into your husband or marriage of you want it to work.

My issue is I love her so much the pain is killing me. The thought of having a separated family breaks my heart. I literally love her so so much. She put some demands on me of what she needed to make us work (they revolved around her still drinking and making sure she has a life away from us) I said OK, what will you do for me... She said don't bother and didn't see that she should do anything for me.

Should I just let this go and deal with the pain and the subsequent pain of her seeing other guys? It hurts me so much to know she is suffering or alone or having a bad day and I can't be there. Every time she is down she pushes me away and ignores me... I freak out because I think she is chatting to guys. She gets angry saying I should trust her... And so on.

We love each other. I think I love her on a far different level. So it's such a waste. And when we're good it's amazing. There is just 2 people in her (as she describes) and the bad one is reserved for me. Maybe I am the issue all along? And if I love her I should let her go? Please someone help me.

I'm fully aware this is my side and there is always 2 sides. I can be quite black and white and that didn't help. But I tried to understand and support her. I still do now. Only last night I spent 1 hour listening to her struggles at work only for her to end up shouting at me saying I don't know what loneliness is. I do.

She has really low self esteem and depression and mental health issues caused by issues in her childhood ... Drinking makes it worse, as does her smoking and her very poor diet and the zero exercise she does. I'm scared for her. I'm scared I'm the problem. I'm terrified ill lose my best friend and the love of my life... What do I do? I feel so sorry for her. Will her life be better without me?

Sorry for the poor spelling and grammar... Wrote this on my phone

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BigGrannyPants · 22/06/2018 17:32

For yourself and your DC, you should leave her. If this were a woman describing a man, there would be hundreds of people screaming abuse. This is a terrible environment for your child and for you. You can't be responsible for her actions. I'm so sorry, you sound like you have done everything (and more) that you can. You've gone above and beyond and been punished by her every step of the way. Put all your efforts in to your DC.

craigajones2 · 22/06/2018 18:22

I'm just so worried for her. I'm scared she'll do something bad. She's struggling mentally. I am not helping as the pain in my chest makes me. Say stupid things. If I see she's going out the anxiety is so bad as I think she is dating another man, so I say something snappy. It's childish. Then, once my emotions have settled I'm telling her she needs to get out. I'm a mess and making her worse. I have moment where I think I can cope and support her and be there as a friend as I love her that much, but then the pain kicks in and I'm broken again.

Thank you for your response

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craigajones2 · 22/06/2018 20:23

I moved out last year. And have remained that way, no one knows, except my parents we were trying. We're now Co parenting and I'm taking them 3.5 days a week. She has been brilliant and not asked for financial support as I'm struggling there, plus she gets the benefits that I don't as she is classified as the main carer. I left her with everything and sold everything I had to give her money (not realising she was using it to date this guy in hotels). I still do contribute though and take kids to school.

As I say, there is this amazing, beautiful kind and wonderful woman in her. Her job is helping severely disabled children which must be incredibly hard and emotional.... But for me it's anger and pushing me away and just refusal to save us or put effort in.

She's an incredible mother. She really is. It's just me she hates. Kids are probably better off that we're apart. It's just killing me and I don't know how ill live without her being my wife. I'm so broken. My family is broken.

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craigajones2 · 22/06/2018 22:58

Thank you. You are probably right. Who knows, if you heard her side, you may have a different opinion. It's so hard to accept my marriage is over and the love of my life doesn't love me back. It's just weird that she keeps telling me she wants us to work and it upsets her that I tell her I do not think she loves me, but her actions of pushing me away, ignoring me when she is low etc. Suggests she is probably finding it hard to admit. I hate the thought she hates herself...but at the same time I question if most of what she has said is true or just an excuse for her to pass the blame of her actions to either me or drink related or MH issues etc... It's always someone else's fault except her own. Broke does not even come close to how I'm feeling. My family, marriage and her was my world.

Sorry for repeating myself and thank you for your help.

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sashh · 23/06/2018 10:47

I know a couple of people who have grown up children with drug addictions.

They both say their children stopped developing as people when their addictions started, and I think there is some truth in it. If so your wife is an adult woman but inside she is still thinking and acting like a teenager.

You cannot maker a marriage work if only one person is trying, sorry but your marriage is over.

And I hesitate to say this because you are so low but your children are being damaged by having a drinking parent.

craigajones2 · 23/06/2018 12:07

Thank you for your honesty. I did everything to protect them. I'm not sure if her drinking has reduced, (I think it has) and she is not as bad as she was, but I just hope without me in her life, she will get better... Right now, I need professional help. It's breaking my heart every time I see families together or couples. My concern is she'll jump straight into another relationship and not truly deal with her issues. I want to keep her in my life, if at all possible

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BigGrannyPants · 23/06/2018 14:40

I don't think you can have her in your life just now. She's poisoning you and your child. I think you need to learn how to be without her before you can even think about having contact with her again. She is certainly not good for your DC to be around.

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