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Panicking...DHL pulling out the stops after separation row

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MissCommunication · 14/03/2018 13:28

Posting here and on AIBU as I need a hand hold...

I've had a lot of support on here from the wise MNers about my EA and controlling dh. He's gaslighting and manipulative and sees no wrong in what he does. We have two DC aged 5 and 18 months. He has up to now been very much a dip in and dip out Dad. Usually he can be found on one of his many devices not really partaking in family life but when he does it is for a few minutes and then back to (some) work, hobby websites, eBay etc. He is either tired or unwell and therefore on sofa or out doing his hobby. I am a SAHM (out of choice and it is what we discussed when we met as I felt I would rather not have children at all if I couldn't be with them growing up). When I have pulled him up on his lack of interest he has blamed me, telling me I am so painful to be around, so negative, excluding etc etc that he just stays away. Of course I know this is bollocks but for many years I was driven to despair and desperation feeling that everything was all my fault. I tried to take my life twice, have driven my car into a lamppost on purpose etc all because I have felt so unbelievably wretched. All that is behind me and I'm strong and gaining in confidence. He has stopped groping me and invading my personal space - thanks to the lovely mumsnet people I have a better view of body autonomy.

Three weeks ago we had a bust up. He basically told me I was abusive, negative, rude, aggressive, disrespectful, lazy and only interested in money. I clothe me and the children second off ebay or charity shops or hand me downs, I get my hair cut twice a year if that, I shop frugally. I am in no way profligate with money. He is a high earner and is currently spending like water. I posted a while ago about finding bank.statements and being shocked at his spending (rough estimate in excess of £30k in 6 months ... one transaction of £3.5k on hobby equipment plus lots of other amounts on his hobby and a £21k family car he has "bought me" but not put in my name). I had no idea that this money was sitting around especially when on the one hand it's family money he says and on the other when I asked about some extra work on the garden and a chap who came to the door quoted 180 he said "can YOU afford it?" I couldn't, so I had to send the man away and I felt so humiliated. He did it again when we had an unfortunate fine of £80 even though i appealed and did my best to sort it, he was quite unkind and said we shouldn't be just spending money for no reason. Needless to say that's another nail in the coffin.

I'm preparing to end the marriage but since the big Blue where I said we were separated he has gone to extra lengths to be a great Dad and husband. Of course, the children are lapping it up...they've not had it before and they want him a lot now. He has a 17 year old DD from his first marriage and he significantly reduced contact time basically to keep me interested after I ended it several years ago because his situation with ex W and DD was so toxic and traumatic for everyone. I can't really forgive myself for my naivety and for allowing that to happen. In my defence he was unbelievably convincing and persuasive despite my reservations and discomfort. I basically got myself so far embroiled and now I am completely and utterly financially dependent on him. He had me in an awful state....punishment and forgiveness cycles, all of which I now recognise, again thanks to advice and wisdom from here.

My huge worry is that now he's making all this effort he will try to completely break me when it all ends, especially when it comes to custody and money. I think he knows it is in the offing as he seems to be getting a lot in shirty little emails, laying a lot at my door but sugar coating it all to keep me sweet.

I am.still bf baby and the children have never had a night away from me. He goes away for work sometimes up to three weeks at a time.

Help! How do I play it? How do I beat him at his own game? Have copied some statements so that if he comes out with any shit about money I can just slap them down in front of him and tell him to fuck off but a friend tells me I must be less emotional about it. I haven't responded to the emails as I know he's only trying to document his efforts and his great Dadness but he's five years too fucking late

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Whatiwishfor · 14/03/2018 16:27

You dont try to beat him at his own game as you wont and carnt. My stxh is also emotional and financially abusive, i dont attempt to beat him as it makes him worse. Stay focused on what you need and brace yourself, if you think being married to an abusive man is hard divorcing one is even harder!!! He is loosing control of you and this he will hate.
You have the advantage as you know you want to leave, you have time to sort your shit out/get your ducks in order.

You need to think of the practicalities of things

  1. find out what you can about your finances, as he will try to hide even more once he knows your leaving.
  2. This isnt going to be smooth as you may well need legal help, find a good solicitor, you may be entitled to legal aid.
  3. Who owns the house? who will live where when you separate?
  4. Will you need benefits? find out what you could be entitled to

the list goes on and on. Try to take the emotion out of things and think practically, there are lots of woman's charities out there that give good advise. Feel free to pm me

MissCommunication · 14/03/2018 19:27

Thank you x

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jedenfalls · 14/03/2018 19:36

Didn’t want to read and run.

But my God you sound amazing. So fucking strong.

You are totally gonna ace this.

Pp is right. You Don’t beat h8m at his own game. You make a new game. Where you make the rules. He will cry and whine like an annoying toddler. He will make it hard but you will float above him and bloody well win.

And the lovely vipers of MN are right behind you.

Hermonie2016 · 14/03/2018 20:37

I completely agree with whayIwishfor, prepare for a really hostile divorce.I stupidly thought we could be amicable, even let Ex petition as hoped it would esse it for him...Wrong decision as he then controlled the timeline.
He hired very aggressive solicitors whilst I went down the nice route.There was a mismatch of legal approaches which never works.I should have changed but kept hoping he would see sense.
Can you get access to his savings? Ex went on a £50k spending spree, hid money whilst questioning what I spent £2.46 on.

Google divorcing high conflict people, will help to prepare you.
Despite the horrendous process I am glad I am away from him.My health was damaged being with him.

iamthrough · 14/03/2018 22:29

Agree with everything said above....and yes prepare yourself for a rough ride. Google 'Grey rock" technique... it's something to help you deal with controlling people. Sounds like you will need it. Good Luck.

samesh1tdifferentday · 28/03/2018 10:21

Hi mine has done this too and pulled all the tricks out of the bag and even decided to try and have the children 50% of the time just as the last resort to torture me I've been a SAHM for 15 years luckily the children have got used to this arrangement now there are no easy ways to manage controlling people and I would second what people here on MN day and just be prepared ie it's great that you got copies of his finances I didn't do this and he ended up putting himself on low income so that he could financially see me struggle too. At one point last year I had to contact a food bank whilst he took his new girlfriend on holiday.
It still continues too any time he can find a way to dig the knife in. I worry for his future living with such anger and venom although I chose to leave he definitely wasn't happy in our marriage anymore.
What positives I can give you are that you will have a battle but you will certainly be happier than if you stay.i often think I'm glad I didn't stay married to someone who can behave as he does.
I'm even finding it difficult to have new relationships 2 years on and have subsequently just ended a relationship which feels dreadful all over again.
Just keep posting for support and maybe even take some money for yourself if you dare put it in an account I wish I had.
I am now single with 4dcs but I'm back at university which I love and have great friends helping me find my way. Good luck but don't be scared any more as long as he's not violent you can do it sending hugs xxx

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