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Husband wants separation which broke my heart but now that I am showing strength he's getting annoyed!!!

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whatnowat35 · 04/10/2017 08:25

Cutting a long story short my husband wants to separate. I am moving back to my home town with our 2 kids and he says it's for the best cause he's not in love with me anymore.

So I did the usual cried and fired moved out for a while and came back and now it's been 6 months and I'm finally slowly accepting all of this a little bit at a time day by day. He is acting everyday like nothing is wrong, still hugging me still giving me kisses in the forehead, still tickling me and being playful & all of it is making me cringe. I said to him a few days ago maybe this is for the best & I am starting to feel myself detaching from you slowly & he went mad starting saying 'aww good for u then it'll be easier for you to get over your broken heart when your gone' & I said I hope so. He wouldn't speak to me for a while so I got up and went out and left him with the kids. Then last night he asked where all our wedding pictures where? I had taken them all off the wall when we had an argument one night a few weeks back and put them in plastic bags and put them in our sunroom! He couldn't have cared less! I had put them there with the intention of throwing them out but didn't have the heart to until yday. So my husband last night asked where they were and I said I finally had the strength to get rid of them and he went mad 'aww so that's the way you want to be then fine!!!' & he didn't speak to me the rest of the night, went to bed & got up this morning and he's ignoring me. I said to him sure your getting everything you asked for and your still annoyed and that's it I am not talking to him I'm not getting roped into this.

Anyway I wanted to ask is he emotionally manipulating me? He also wants me to 'leave the door open for us in the future' which I think is a joke!!! And I said I don't think I can do that and he said 'aww well I hope you don't regret your decision?' I said no you made the decision to end our marriage and I hope you don't regret it!!

Anyone else's husbands doing this??

Thanks

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WhatwouldOliviaPopedo · 05/10/2017 08:38

Agree with PP - stop taking his calls during the day (if it's urgent he can leave a voicemail or text), don't do any laundry or chores specifically for him and if he tries to tickle or kiss you, tell him you don't want him touching you in that way because you're no longer in a relationship.

Bluntness100 · 05/10/2017 08:44

I mean when I look at everything I've written above I prob should have left a long time ago

Yup. Got yourself a prince amongst men there. Just get out. You can do better than this selfish idiot. Don’t waste your life with someone who doesn’t just treat you like second best, but likes you to know you are. Then blames you for his defects and problems. Tell him to do one and wish him well in his search for the mythical woman who will be so much better.

RandomMess · 05/10/2017 08:53

Yup you should be long gone and as you have the DC not sure why you are only settling for 50%

I think he can only be forced to follow the court agreement for 12 months so don't expect the car and nursery to necessarily get paid beyond that without a fight. At least double check this with your solicitor!

LittleCandle · 05/10/2017 09:53

XH was a bit the same when we first parted. He wanted to touch me and kiss me. I did not want him to touch me and shrugged him off every time. You are being very strong, but you need to put up firm no touch boundaries until you leave. Only talk to him if you have to and don't do his washing or any cooking for him. I do hope you get the house you're looking for.

Figgygal · 05/10/2017 09:58

He started this when your baby was five weeks old what an absolute bastard Shock

I'm with everyone else tell him that him being physical with you has to stop you are no longer in a relationship and it is not appropriate. You're not his maid or his chef so he needs to start looking after him self if that hasn't already happened.

Lovlies · 05/10/2017 10:23

Sounds like he is already having an affair but won't tell you. He has moved on emotionally and is ahead of you.

StormTreader · 05/10/2017 10:29

I wonder if that was his way of saying "I dont like that the baby is getting all your attention, I expect you to panic and focus it all back on me".

NotSureIfiAmWell · 05/10/2017 10:30

Have you seen a solicitor at all yet? I think you need to show them your agreement first. My solicitor advised against a separation agreement because they don't hold any real weight.

AnyFucker · 05/10/2017 10:32

Your life will improve immeasurably now you are no longer in a "relationship" with this tosser

whatnowat35 · 05/10/2017 19:08

Thanks everyone for your messages. I really appreciate them all. I thought a separation agreement was going to be enough but seems like it won't be. I will prob have to get legally separated first. I will see the solicitor next week. I just want all of this mess cleared up before Christmas and I want my children settled in before then cause it's not fair on them. My husband is walking about sulking a bit at the mo but I'm not biting to it. I'm just gonna let him batter on with huffing & I'm gonna get on with getting the ball rolling to depart!!! U never think your relationship is gonna crumble so badly, I thought my husband was the best of the best when I met him but then obviously getting married and especially having children changed all that. U think u know someone ☹️

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QueenLaBeefah · 05/10/2017 19:12

The big question you need to ask yourself is how you ended up with this utter bellend in the first place?

Enjoy the rest of your life without him dragging you down. You can do so much better.

expatinscotland · 05/10/2017 19:17

What a wanker! Start seriously detaching from him.

Butterymuffin · 05/10/2017 19:23

You're definitely doing the right thing. As others have said, stop letting him kiss you and tickle you, and don't take his calls during the day.

AnneLovesGilbert · 05/10/2017 19:30

There's little as shocking as what a heartless bastard the man you thought you loved and knew better than anyone can turn into.

You're doing brilliantly.

I wouldn't bother getting separated, get the best lawyer you can afford, all the paperwork and figures you need and crack on getting divorced. I can't describe the feeling of freedom I got when the decree absolute landed on my door mat. Once you have everything in place it should go through quite quickly. If you put off the divorce it'll stay hanging over you.

I'm so sorry for the loss of your baby. You're a survivor. Focus on the happy future ahead of you and your children. You deserve so much more than this waste of space man.

Day to day I'd just ignore him as much as you can. He won't like it but you owe him nothing. Look after yourself and your little ones. You'll be fine. You'll be happy. Life will be great. Get what you're owed. Don't get stuck thinking you don't deserve it or want to settle for an easy life in the short term. It might be a fight but it's worth having so you're set up for your new life.

NotSureIfiAmWell · 05/10/2017 20:34

My solicitor said to cut out the middle bit of seperation agreement and just go straight for a divorce as I'd be more financially protected.

BellaNoche · 05/10/2017 21:11

I'm so very sorry for the loss of the baby, I think you deserve a lot more than this dreadful man and I hope that you come through this to better times. xxx

whatnowat35 · 06/10/2017 09:32

Hi everyone, thanks for all your support 😊 I am just so devastated about all of this ☹️ Days I feel strong and others like today I just wanna crumble ☹️ Being in limbo and still living together obviously isn't helping! I'm still trying to wrap my head around all of this, I mean I know I might have changed since we have had children and I have suffered from PN & found it hard to come to terms with living somewhere I wasn't comfortable with cause I had no friends and family but he never helped me once to try and pull through it. He keeps saying aww I obviously couldn't see the wood for the trees & I said what a load of crap I told u how many times I wanted us move to my hometown for support. He didn't care cause he was too wrapped up in his job and furthering his career. It got to the point I didn't even like seeing him come home days cause I felt so shit & when he did come home he would always be so happy cause he was feeling great & he would just look at me and say oh god don't tell me your in a bad mood again (or he would say look at the pointy head on u) & I would feel so angry cause I would have been at home watching the kids & feeling so stressed and he just didn't get it. His famous words to me everytime I was upset was 'this is your job, it's your job to watch the kids, it's your job to clean the house, it's your job to make dinners cause I'm bringing in the money'!! I would have been bringing in the money too if his mother had have minded the kids like he promised. But again it was my fault I wasn't working.

Still can't believe I have put up with almost 6 years of him not being able to maintain an erection and him blaming me for giving him a psychological problem when it comes to sex & now he is saying aww youve changed I don't love u anymore!! Your not fun anymore, you have stopped me from doing this & that (my husbands doing this & that is wanting to spend thousands on climbing mountains, money he wanted to use on him only & I would ask well what do me and the kids get if I get all that?) Your always in a bad mood!! You haven't shown me even love since the kids have come along etc

I thought a husband was supposed to support u emotionally. His idea of supporting me was letting me go on a night out the odd time & trying to push me into studying for a couple of things I didn't want to cause he wanted me to eventually get a good job so we could have even more money cause that's all he thinks about is money!!

I need to speak to my solicitor this week and see what she says. I thought u had to be separated 2 years before u could divorce. He doesn't want to divorce yet cause he thinks there's a possibility he might fall back in love with me again lol!! What a load of shit!!! I said u either love me or u don't! I'm not going through this again in the future.

He also knows I've seen houses and he's like aww there's no hurry to move out. & I said we need to get this legal separation sorted & we need to talk about it & he avoids bringing it all up and getting anything set in stone.

It's all very confusing still. But I have to stay strong!! & keep powering on x

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UnbornMortificado · 06/10/2017 15:51

He's trying to fuck with your head.

You deserve so much more.

I wasted 5 years, I won't bore or derail with details but the short version is I needed up that messed up I was hospitalised.

It wasn't fun but that stay (and advice on here) finally got me to see sense.

Two years on I'm married with a little boy. Most importantly I'm happy.

If I can do it you certainly can, he sounds like a knob.

LaContessaDiPlump · 06/10/2017 19:28

What a colossal cunt. At least he's shown his true colours early and your little boy won't remember any of this shit growing up.

Do not fall for any of the hype, whatever you do. In fact I'd go so far as to say I'd be very careful with my alcohol intake while living with him, just in case I gave in to all the promises in a moment of weakness. I've done that myself so wouldn't judge if you did, but it does complicate things.....

NotSureIfiAmWell · 06/10/2017 22:13

Depends on the reasons for divorce. I was advised to divorce my stbx for unreasonable behaviour in view of his inappropriate relationship with OW so l would be financially independent from him.

whatnowat35 · 07/10/2017 08:54

Thanks ladies 😊 It's nice to hear everyone more or less shares the same opinion of him that he is a selfish so and so.

I question now whether he even loved me in the first place. We have been together 6 years & barely married 4 years when he broke the news. The first 2 years were all freedom and lust & then we got married & had our first child & I reckon he starting checking out around then. He doesn't want the responsibility of me and the children. He wants the freedom back so he can selfishly go out and do whatever the fuck he likes and spend all his money on himself self self. It makes me feel so sad for the kids ☹️😔☹️ I feel like I've let them down so bad. When u asked my husband back in April how long he was feeling the way he was he said 2-3 years!!! I was so shocked cause that was going back to when me first wee boy was born and it also means he went on to get me pregnant with our 2nd child and felt this way. When I was in hospital with our 2nd child (had a section) he was in hospital with me the 2 days and I must say looking back he wasn't that happy for the birth of his child. He said to me the day before I got, that day he had been in and seeing to the baby cause I was in so much pain & he left and got home and sent me a message saying aww u never bothered with your baby today the whole time I was there, he said u better watch your not getting that post natal again cause it won't be good for u or our first born or this baby. I remember lying on the hospital bed sore and tired & thinking how dare u say that to me ☹️

He's so fucking selfish!!!!!! I can't wait for this nightmare to be over.

NotSureIfiAmWell - I actually think my dad confided in his solicitor about all this back in the summer and they had said I could divorce him on the grounds of unreasonable behaviour cause he said what he did only 5 weeks after the baby was born knowing I was in such a vulnerable place.

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NotSureIfiAmWell · 07/10/2017 09:18

How far apart will you be once you move?

whatnowat35 · 08/10/2017 03:00

NotSureIfiAmWell - we will be 2 hour drive apart x

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NotSureIfiAmWell · 09/10/2017 07:28

Have u sorted the contact time? That was the first thing l did as no way was l going to do all the work whilst he lived the single life

Lore0404 · 02/03/2019 14:04

I am separating from my husband of 20 years and although it has been the most horrible rollercoaster for me for the past 7 years (actually all our marriage but more felt these past 7 yrs) I still have such strong feelings for him and I am struggling to accept what is happening.
The request has always come from him and it all was evident to me 6 months after our last son was born. We had always had fights and great moments together as a family but during my last pregnancy I could feel his coldness, irritation and distance from me growing. He didn't sleep with me since I was 5 months pregnant and my vulnerability and emotional need to be with him during this time just increased his frustration towards me.
After our son was born one day while watching tv he just told me he had had a fling of a weekend with somebody nearly two years before.
I was completely devastated. For this declaration of course but mainly for the way he said it to me...cold and unapologetic..he told me it was only that time but that he didn't want to do it again and would promise be faithful under certain conditions only.
The conditions were: I should pay more attention to him and not so much the kids. I should try different sexual experiences with him (threesomes to begin with)
I should make time to go away with him more often and party more
I can not explain the turmoil number 2 caused in me. I could happily agree on the others, forget about my pain from his cheating (which later I discovered happened more than once by his own admission) and try, but number 2 I just didn't know what to do.
It was non negotiable for him. He told me I was boring and needed to up my game with him. He told me it was my option and that I should be honest with him and myself if I wanted to do this but that also I should know that is what he wanted. Full period. Basically "think about it, see if you can, if not, is ok but it is pretty much over or I continue having something on the side"
I consider myself a strong, emotionally intelligent woman. I also know deep in my heart I have loved this man, partied with him and have been his partner for all our marriage. For me really, he was my one and only. His ultimatum hurt me lots on top of his cheating but I felt I had to try.
In exchange he promised to not cheat again and work for me as well...treat me better (he has ALWAYS been verbally abusive..calling me bitch and others and easily raising his voice at me) and form an honest, open, committed relationship. He didn't and couldn't have a traditional marriage where their needs are disconnected and doesn't have fun. He dreamed of a total, free, fun, connected marriage between two individuals. Family is nice but the couple itself was first. That is what he wanted for us and so far I was lacking in that picture. Great woman but lacking....
After so much thinking and internal battles and confusion and self doubt I agreed to have our first threesome...booked hotel, girl and drinks.
To my surprise it went so well. We both my husband and I were very loving towards each other and his attention was totally on me. I felt playful, in control and sexy. I should just mention it was a soft threesome. More playful than not.
For a couple of days it was great but then on a holiday soon after he started to get irritated with me again. All my pain, insecurities about us and me in particular flourishing again. His explanation? He didnt like the fact I would not talk more about it (we HAD talked about it for a couple of days after, smirking and thinking how funny it was that I was, and not the other woman, in control of the situation) I went from feeling like a queen in his eyes to again the boring wife that lacks so much.
What can I say...from here it went further to swinging parties which were interesting to see and lightly and contently to participate to weird encounter with other couples.
Now, I always knew swinging was not my thing. ALWAYS. But then again I accepted to explore it because I felt I had no option, because I felt I had to be more interesting to him. I was afraid to say no. I thought I could manage it by putting some rules.
I would NOT sleep with somebody else's husband. We could play around, I could play around with the girl (which is fine by me) and that it would be just a couple of times a year.
He agreed. We went to some parties. Had a good time, I flirted more than him , danced, kissed with others...all in the name of having a light experience. I was ok with that. I can truly and honestly say that I showed a good time and people liked me but I always kept certain distance. I didnt like any guy and only wanted sex with my husband. We, both, were less participant and social than the rest who seem to mingle more easily. My husband felt a mixture of guilt, over excitement and frustration at these events that he lashed on me.
Some parties he pushed me and made me feel like I was lacking. Of course I was. I was not sleeping with others which made it difficult for him to interact with these women as it has to be a couples thing. I, in some occasions felt so hurt.From my part I would sometimes bring the whole scene down afterwards and this deeply affected him and his self confidence.
Resentments grew from both of us. From his side because I didnt plan these occasions more often, because my heart wasn't in it, because once it happened I didnt really talked about it much, because I would mention there were no men I liked.
From my part resentment grew from his changing his mind. Suddenly threesomes were not that appealing and very expensive and he wanted me to find a girl out of nowhere to have fun. He said over and over I was boring, not open, didnt have a spark and I simply wasn't the person he wanted. While sometimes and during some of these events he would treat me like his only woman and made me feel like a queen soon after he would be again frustrated because I wouldn't pursuit it more. He wanted it to come from me. I wanted it to come from him and me be the follower. I was doing it more for him but trying hard to keep my limits for my own good and of the marriage.
So many times we talked it over and tried to come to an agreement that I honestly believe failed because we both at the end tried to accommodate to the other's needs in this alternate world without really wanting the best for the other. I felt I was giving so much of me and he felt he was restraining so much for me.
You would imagine the strain this has brought to our marriage. In between we would have really nice times and awful painful, confusing ones.
The separation was brought up by him several times over the past 7 years and me promising to change this and that and always achieving only half of it. I can honestly say it has affected my health too.
I can not help but think that if it all had been proposed to me in a nicer, more caring, more understanding way it would have been such an amazing thing. Because I know I have a bit of a naughty side in me. I know I am willing to go the extra mile (with limits) with this guy that I still consider a great catch and I know I can take and I know I want to be with him. But I believe we both went into this with serious doubts. Him, doubts that I was the woman up for this, that I had what he wanted and me doubts of myself, that I came short to him, not enough.
Many other things have happened..so many..good and bad.
Remember no.1? On that one I think I have failed more than not. I am the more controlling parent with our boys and have made my mistakes and I recognise it. I am trying to work on that but at the end a little disagreement we had recently was the end of the straw for him.
He had already given me an ultimatum. I had a year. A year to prove and work for him. A year because during that time he would try and put finances in order to be ready for a possible separation when time came.
A year.
Two months later he wants a separation and we are living under the same roof as strangers.
I am exhausted too. I feel like a failed, like I didn't, like I gave myself and more, like I should have done better, like I lost a great chance at a great relationship, that I gave him a great relationship, that I accepted bad treatment from him, that I made many mistakes. But I am much calmer now than all the other times I chased after him and begged him not to go. I have this peace that if I ever made him feel bad it wasn't really my intention. That I was loyal and faithful to him. That I gave him a stable, loving home throughout all the changes we.went through. That I really really tried hard to give him what he wanted without loosing myself. That I kept myself pretty and in good shape. That whenever he called me to join him with his friends at a bar I rushed to get ready and met him there..I loved that of him. That I would dance and have fun many times with him.
That I so many times felt so lucky to be with him.
It breaks my heart when he tells me now I never worked hard for him. That all I did was under my conditions. I feel in some way it had to be. It had to be under both our conditions.
Now, all is so uncertain and hard. I am numb and trying to look forward

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