Meet the Other Phone. A phone that grows with your child.

Meet the Other Phone.
A phone that grows with your child.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Divorce/separation

Here you'll find divorce help and support from other Mners. For legal advice, you may find Advice Now guides useful.

Do I need to give him half of my inheritance?

56 replies

LALAlola · 14/08/2017 17:09

So a bit of back story first and apologies if I come across as cold calling a dead family member 'the deceased', I don't want to give any details away that could out me. I have been married for 8 years and have two dc with my husband. Around three years ago, a close family member got a terminal diagnoses and died a few months later. During this time, family member spoke about writing a will but the illness got the better of them and so they never got round to doing it. Their estate went to probate and then to the deceased parents. As we are a small close family (11 of us including grandchildren but not counting husbands/wives), the deceased parents shared the estate out just as the deceased had spoke about.

That's how I got my inheritance/cash gift around two years ago(is it an inheritance if it didn't actually come from a will?). My two children also got given an amount which has been put aside for them for when they are older.

Now, I have always had a separate account from my husband with a different bank. We were both working when we met and split all bills 50/50 when we moved in together. We spent the remainder of what was in our accounts on whatever we wanted. We furnished our house 50/50 and bought a car 50/50. I saved some of my money in my own savings account but my husband saved nothing. I frequently had to transfer him money from my savings to get him out of his overdraft even when he was earning more then me. I even had to pay for our wedding as he had saved nothing. He literally just payed to hire his suit.

After around four years together (before children), he got a bonus from work. Around £8000 which he made clear was his to spend how he wanted. Of course it was, I know he had worked hard and had absolutely no interest in it. He put a few thousand in his own savings account which I had no access to and spent the rest on stuff. Eg expensive watches, deposit for a car, clothes etc but nothing for the home or for us (not that I ever asked for it) as we already had everything we needed. Sorry if this seems irrelevant but please bear with me.

The very same month he got the bonus, we jointly decided to try for a baby and I was pregnant very soon after. I worked up until I was eight months pregnant and then went on maternity leave. During maternity leave, we both decided I give up my career (I had just been promoted to a higher paid position) to be a sahp. I spent the first year living off maternity allowance and my savings as I soon came to realise he would make me feel like shit if I asked for money. He took on most of the bills I had been paying except for a few that I still payed (TV package deal, phone bill, life insurance and about 50% of the monthly food bill). The house we rented at a reduced rate through work for a few hundred a month was now suddenly 'his house'. He rarely put money into my bank account after I spent all my savings on the baby, food and the above bills so I ended up living permanently in my overdraft. Child benefit would briefly lift me out of my overdraft but then I'd go back in it a few days later. Like I said, I felt like if I asked for help, he patronised me and made me feel like crap.

During a happier period, we decided to have another baby and I got pregnant straight away. It was during this time that my family member died. Unfortunately, family member died before dc was born but did think of dc when deciding how to split their estate. Just before dc was born, I got the inheritance. We were struggling financially so it couldn't have come at a better time. I bought a new, bigger car so my dh had sole use of the one we paid 50/50 for. I paid all outstanding debts off such as furniture, the first car which was on finance, outstanding utility bills, paid for the old care to have new tyres and a service, paid for all the white goods to be upgraded, paid for holidays, new tech and even gave money to dh nearly every month when he found himself in his overdraft. I spent alot of money on the whole family including him.

Our second baby was born and we were both really happy. However, I found out about an infidelity of his while I was in labour (yes, that's how shit he is). I had a very traumatic labour in which the hospital left me for five days in labour that ended in cesarean and classed as failure to progress. It wasn't even classed as labour as I didn't progress far enough but I had contractions every 3-6 minutes for five days in hospital.It was the first day of labour I found put about the emotional affair but he gave me the usual script and I, being naive and in labour with a two year old at home, decided to try and make something work.

I continued spending my inheritance on everything that was needed and wanted by all members of the family. I made an effort not to live off of it but dh would still only sporadically put money in my account so, as well as paying off his overdraft nearly every month, I was paying off mine every month and paying for things me and the kids needed (as well as treating everyone). I really didn't mind treating my dh and kids with it as family member had said they regretted not having fun with their money while they could but I started to resent having to give money to dh (he earnt a good wage and could easily cover the bills so I felt he was spending willy nilly). I put a stop to spending any more money from my savings in Dec 2016 as I realised I had gone through nearly £30,000 in under two years. I know where a good chunk of the money has gone but thousands and thousands is unaccounted for. During this time, I did use a chunk to set up my own business to work around the children and get some money into my account each month, however, this could range from nothing to a few hundred each month as I worked part time while trying to get established. I've gone on like this for over a year while my dh puts little to no money in my account even on months where I earnt pennies. He also doesn't give me his debit card much (only once or twice a month when he complains we have no food and I go shopping) which is why I have lived in my overdraft and off my inheritance buying food, paying the above bills, sometimes nursery bill and mine and the kids necessities.

Which leads me to today. Well done if you got this far btw but I wanted to give you an idea of what dh is like with money. I'm at a stage where I want to leave (I can't forget or forgive his emotional affair and he's just a horrible miserable person in general). I desperately want to leave him. I have been putting little bits of money that I can spare from my business into my savings with my remaining inheritance. It's about £12000 and I will obviously need it if I'm to be a single mother moving out and starting again.

My question is can he take any of it? I know we won't divorce straight away but he always talks about the money as if it's his money which makes me think he'll try and get it straight away. I see it as my money - it was my family member that died so it's mine. If it had been a member of his family, I would have let him spend it however he wanted. I have been more than generous spending thousands on him in terms of holidays/tech/hundreds of pounds nearly every month for his overdraft etc. Overall, I have spent £30000 on him, the kids, our home and quality of life which I don't berate because we were married but I want whatever is left over for just me and the kids. Yes, he has paid 75% of bills during the last 3/4 years but even that is debatelable as I have then had to give him money at the end of the month as I didn't want overdraft fees. I have been home with our children for four years scraping money together while recently trying to start a business to actually get some kind of income/money in my account while he has been promoted a fair few times and is now earning even more with potential for higher earnings and guaranteed bonuses which I gave up. He got his last bonus before kids which he said was just his whereas my 'bonus'/inheritance he talks about as partly his. I just don't want him to get any more of my family members money when he's always been tight and has berated sharing the family income with me. Sorry this is so long but I'm just so frustrated by this situation and need to know I can support the kids with this money when I leave him. Also, sorry for any typos!

OP posts:
mummmy2017 · 18/08/2017 08:22

For once I can and do know rather a lot about all this.
1 inheritance is shared, but if you have spent it all on renting a house, furniture and all these other little thins, not a car after you leave him, no he can't claim it off you.
2, What your idiot of a husband has failed to realize is if his home is part of his job then he needs less money to home himself. You will get a share of his income, if for child support, it may mean it has to be done by the courts, but he has to support his children, and if he can afford to pay 3/4 of the bills then you should get a few hundred off him each month.
He is on a very good wage, so for 2 children it's quiet a bit of his money. Just ask for it to be attached to his pay cheque so his company pay not him, or you will find he is always broke and can't pay.
3, as the parent with care, you get all the benefits paid to you, not him.
4, due to there being no house, I think you will find it's a case of sharing the debts and assets and deciding if anyone has more than the other.

5 unless he can claim 50/50 care for the children which he can't if he is working you will be owed money by him.

SnugglyBedSocks · 18/08/2017 08:23

I am currently going through a divorce. We have both had to do Form E and on it all assets and bank accounts have to be declared - with 12 months of statements attached. If large amounts of money is missing then either solicitor can question where it has gone and are you trying to hide the money which can get you in trouble. So even though my STBX has spent £20,000 in 4 weeks of his redundancy, I can question that and still ask for my share BUT he is also allowed to spend it on "necessary" things eg rent for the new house whilst I stay in the marital home.

I have also had to declare my inheritance which is my parents house. I don't fully own it as it is joint owned with my sister BUT he can make a claim on my half. I am really hoping morally that he won't but it's all about the money to him.

Achoopichu · 18/08/2017 08:31

Snuggly has hit the nail on the head.

All assets are put on the table including equity in house, bank accounts, pensions. In my case I walked away with 50% of this pot.

Do you have more than £24k between you in assets? Then you should walk away with at least your inheritance

Try not to spend a fortune on solicitors fees - mediation service can be good if you are both reasonable

MachineBee · 18/08/2017 12:37

Cars count as an asset as do any other items of significant value.

Quartz2208 · 18/08/2017 12:42

Yes it would but so would his bonuses, all the money he has been keeping is all up for grabs, and he would need to provide maintenance etc. Use it for rent etc now and leave

butterfly56 · 18/08/2017 19:12

Leave and set up home for yourself and children as soon as you can.
Forget about divorce proceedings for the moment because that is going to be really stressful for you and you can do without that at the moment.

Many people split without involving divorce proceedings straight away.
You don't want to be spending what you have on solicitors fees.

butterfly56 · 18/08/2017 19:28

In answer to your last post lola (mon 14 Aug)yes you are allowed to do all those things regarding setting up home etc and there is no penalty by the divorce court.
Just keep an ongoing account of your spending(spreadsheet) include everything food, clothes, furniture, rent school etc every detail incase you are asked to provide the information.

You can also do this for years gone by to show how you were left short of money over the years...I did this for the divorce which did not happen until 2years after I left...I filed my own divorce papers with the Court when I was mentally ready...there was no way I could have gone through that at the time I moved out.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 18/08/2017 20:00

I filed my own divorce papers with the Court when I was mentally ready...there was no way I could have gone through that at the time I moved out

Which is true. The OPs stbxh however is free to file himself if he wished to do so

Calvinlookingforhobbs · 18/08/2017 22:40

Generally, inheritances are not subject to equitable distribution because, by law, inheritances are not considered marital property. Instead, inheritances are treated as separate property belonging to the person who received the inheritance, and therefore may not be divided between the parties in a divorce.

PaintingByNumbers · 19/08/2017 07:11

Thats not the case in england, calvin. I think it is in scotland?

worridmum · 19/08/2017 12:16

If you transfer the money to a trusted family member or friend it will be classed as deposal of assists so you would lose out as judges take a very very dim view of this you could end up with pay ALL legal costs at 50/50 settlement taking into account of your 12.000 so would minus that from your share eg 50.000 of assits each should get 25k but because you transfered 12k he gets 37k and you only get award 12k plus having to pay all legal costs its not worth the risk as its easily traceable.

babybarrister · 19/08/2017 12:46

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

yorkshireyummymummy · 19/08/2017 12:47

Draw some out in cash every week and hide it, £500 per week.
Put a directors loan into your company. The company then owes you the money.
Put a wedge of it on your credit card for future payments.
Buy what you need, if you find somewhere you want to rent then pay 6 months rent in advance. If you are questioned you simply state that you did it so you could sleep at night knowing your DC's.had a secure home.
Get an M&S saving card and put £250 on that. Do it twice. Even three times ( just look after the cards!!) Christmas sorted. Do it with tesco, Sainsburys wherever you shop. Food paid for in advance. You are doing this to ensure you have no worries about feeding your children while your business gets going.
You have a history via statements of dipping into your inheritance on a very regular basis. This is no different. You obviously need to spend more ( your honour) because you had more outgoings, setting up a second home etc.
Then because you have paid rent/ food in advance etc you can save a bit from future outgoings when you are separated to give you back your cushion.
Under no circumstances would I transfer it all to a relation. Once you do this it's theirs AND any judge would see straight through it.
But the spending of YOUR money which I have mentioned above is all above board.
Take into consideration also that your husband has never been a joint account holder of this money and that you have always kept finances separate. If you can, get some copies of your husbands statements showing his £8k going in and subsequent withdrawals.
Did you transfer money to your husbands account by Internet banking/ cheque or by cash? If it's traceable then you can say that he has had more than his fair share considering you got zero from his.
Good luck my dear! Stay strong, shove wodges of cash into your knicker drawer stuffed in a pair of socks.
This is of course what I would do. It's only my opinion and is subject to being ripped apart by the jury of mumsnet! But this is genuinely what I would be doing. Take it out in dribs and drabs.
Hope everything works out well for you. Life's a bitch isn't it!

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 19/08/2017 13:02

yorkshireyummymummy

You seriously think solicitors and judges haven't seen all those tactics before.....

Mrscropley · 19/08/2017 13:09

My exh has recently got away with not paying a loan for 5 years, off loading £350 a day into bank accounts he opened for MY dc, had the house repossessed and is living in rented accommodation paid for with the ££££££he had stashed in my dc accounts which he was trustee for. Reported him to the bank but no action taken that I know of.

So off load your cash into dc accounts and he can't touch it. .
You can use it to pay for their things so totally legal not what my ex did.

butterfly56 · 19/08/2017 14:09

Totally agree with you on all points yorkshireyummymummy

NotSureIfiAmWell · 19/08/2017 16:17

Omg are people still believing that you can honestly give relatives money to stash. YOU HAVE TO GIVE 12 MONTHS BANK STATEMENTS. It will show on there and the ex's solicitor will question where it is. If it's not a good enough answer you will have to give back half.

NotSureIfiAmWell · 19/08/2017 16:21

Also in relation to inheritance...in England it has to be declared. I'm currently going through a divorce and legally STBX can make a claim on my Dad's house because I am on the deeds as my Mum left her half to me when she died.

I'm really hoping that morally he won't make a claim but I'm not holding out any faith. To release the money the house would have to be sold...which makes my Dad homeless Sad

MrsBertBibby · 19/08/2017 18:53

There are enormous differences between something having to be disclosed, something being taken into account, and something being shared equally.

It's a complex area with various leading cases and as BB says the advice given in one case is completely irrelevant in another.

Notsure, highly unlikely your share in your dad's home will be touched as it's clearly not a marital asset. So long as your're not trying to get all the marital assets too.

Get proper advice, not shreds of advice geared for other cases half remembered and spouted back on here.

NotSureIfiAmWell · 20/08/2017 04:22

It is a marital asset as mum died after we married

PrincessPlod · 20/08/2017 04:49

I can only tell you what DH ex wife did when they got divorced (I don't like the woman but she is clever with money) she had inherited £10k plus the profit from the sale of martial home (DH was guilted into giving it all to her) £16k. She put some in each of the kids bank accounts which she had sole control of and the rest into her mothers account until after divorce was settled. She really didn't have to bother as DH is not clever enough to even bother looking at that and just wanted shot of her.

Go to a solicitor, my friend is going through a divorce and she has a prenup which in USA means something but here it doesn't meaning she is losing everything when her husband put nothing in.

reallyanotherone · 20/08/2017 07:41

I think a lot depends on if you have kids.

The courts reasoning in dh's case was the money was gone. There was little money in the equity "pot"- the car wasn't included, as she needed a car to get the kids around. Same with any other joint assets, dh got nothing from the home because the kids lived there, no money as forcing a sale would be detrimental to the kids, and she couldn't take on a bigger mortgage in her own name.

So if she had spent the 20k savings as she claimed, there was no way she was going to find 10k to pay dh. As dh was an adult male, he was told he can start again financially now he wasn't a resident parent, whereas her full time job and unlimited free childcare off dh's parents job prospects were limited because of the kids.

The truth in divorce is there is rarely enough money to create 2 equal households from one.

MrsBertBibby · 20/08/2017 08:17

NotSure, 23 years in Family law and a lot of time spent reading caselaw says no, not a marital asset if that's the only reasoning.

NotSureIfiAmWell · 20/08/2017 19:06

I actually own the house though. My name is on the deeds so when I filled in Form E I had to declare it

EllenJanethickerknickers · 20/08/2017 19:14

My lovely mum gifted each of my siblings and me £20,000 in an attempt to avoid inheritance tax. I split it between my DC and my H and I, equally. When I divorced a couple of years later the money was just part of marital assets, except for the children's shares. My mum sadly died a couple of years ago, after my divorce and hence the rest of my inheritance was mine alone.

So I think this money will be included as a marital asset, unfortunately.

Swipe left for the next trending thread