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Does spousal maintenance ever get awarded now?

33 replies

lem31 · 11/01/2017 17:27

My husband and I are just starting the separation route.

OH works long hours, earned £120,000 last year, on target the same this year, just under £100,000 the previous year. His basic is about 1/3 of this total, the rest commission based.

We have a 3yo

I quit my job (something I suggested, but he agreed to based on the long hours he worked), meaning he has been supporting us financially for 2 years. up until then, I contributed equally (owned house for 6 years total, married 4 years, almost 5)

I have started my own business, that is currently in debt. I am paid £8060 pa, though this is in the form of a directors loan. I have no other current income (which means basically, I have no income!!) If I get another job to supplement income I have the problem of childcare, and the risk that if I can't work on my own business I will go bankrupt because of the debts in the company.

I don't think the reasons for separation are relevant, but I am the one calling time on the marriage.

So, we are trying to figure out the nitty gritty best we can. My solicitor suggests I should be able to keep the house and apply for additional SM on top of the child maintenance, equalling roughly 1/3 of his monthly take-home.

He has refused to leave the house, saying I need to.

His solicitor has apparently said no court will kick him out of his house, that we should sell it or for him to stay in it.

We have agreed on custody that he will have him 2 nights, 1 full day plus extra holidays etc if he wants.

If I just move out to rented accommodation, with no spousal maintenance I will be living in a cheap rented place (by this I mean really grotty - Im not being a snob), and have very little money left over for anything like clothes for my boy. I will have no security of how long I can stay where I am, and I will find it very hard to find somewhere that will accept housing benefits and someone with a small child. But OH is adamant that I will not be granted SM because it is never given, despite what my solicitor says. Nor will I get the house.

So, getting to my question - IS SM ever granted in reality? If I have to move into rented accommodation having an extra couple of hundred in the bank would make a huge difference to my financial situation and the security that I have for my son. His take home has been consistently £5,500-£6000 a month. Sometimes it is more, sometimes less as it is commission based, but that would be a good average. I am suggesting CSA payments of £1000 pcm (according to the CSA website this is what he would need to pay) and an additional £500. I would take 50% of the house and everything else can be his. IE - I won't claim anything on his pensions, and won't ask him for anything more. I would be happy for these payments to decrease as my business is able to pay me and my income rises.
I would also need him to be a guarantor on my rented house, as I don't think a landlord would rent to me on the basis of my financial situation alone.

But if SM is never really paid in similar circumstances, I can't afford to rack up solicitors bills fighting for something that wouldn't happen in reality.

Any of your experiences would be really, really helpful! x

OP posts:
Secretsout · 13/01/2017 19:58

Gosh Blinky. i had no idea SM would be that much! How old are your kids. My STBXH will only have mine 1 night a week if that. Mine are 16 and 14. He's in for a shock!

PollytheDolly · 13/01/2017 20:02

When you divorce, the financial (consent) order goes in front of a judge to sign off to ensure fairness. Your soon to be ex calling you a money grabber might be in for a surprise....

lem31 · 13/01/2017 22:27

Wow, thanks guys. That is all sooooo interesting!!

I have managed to move into a family house on a temporary basis while they are on holiday. My solicitor advised that would be fine as it is temporary and doesn't demonstrate I can live on my own as Im not paying rent etc. So I can move back anytime I want/need to. It will give me the head space I need to decide whether to fight or just do it by myself. I feel so bullied and my head is done in, so I really need the head space away from it all to figure out my next moves.
I am really worried he will quit his job if I fight him. it is probably empty threats, but if he does it I wouldn't even get CSA and I REALLY need that to survive! Maybe mediation will allow us to discuss it properly. If we have a decent mediator they may help... I'm just scared that he won't listen and will just bully me in there, just like he does outside, too. but I guess no harm in trying at least.
Im also thinking that as much as it would be more stable to have a mortgaged house rather than a rented place, I would also be responsible for the upkeep of the place - if the boiler breaks I'm not sure if I could afford to replace it for example. there is some security in rented accommodation in that i don't have to be responsible for its upkeep. If i got spousal maintenance as well as a mortgaged house I could, but i'm not sure how likely I am to get both. I think I am just scared tbh and the head space away from the bullying ex will enable me to think clearly. your comments have really helped.
Thank you. xx

OP posts:
Peppapogstillonaloop · 14/01/2017 05:44

I can't believe he would quit his job just to try and cheat you..that would be madness. Sounds like he has really been awful though so hopefully some space will help. he sounds like a nasty bully..I don't have much specific advice but good luck!

ddrmum · 14/01/2017 07:01

Op, don't agree to give up your claim on anything including pension. it's amazing how nasty it can get when they don't want to play fair. best of luck

Afterthestorm · 17/01/2017 12:19

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sksinfood · 10/02/2017 19:59

OP please don't go into mediation asking for anything less than what you're entitled to. He's going to grind you down whatever you ask for, so start higher than what you'll accept.

Ehsan335 · 11/02/2017 15:01

While Courts prefer to avoid spousal maintenance, they are still awarded and in your case maybe warranted if a clean break with a lump sum is insufficient to tie you over financially in the long-run. Forgive me if I repeating what you already know.

Has the matter been litigated in Court or have you both done financial disclosure?

You are certainly getting the shorter end of the straw if you let the matrimonial home go. I'm hopeful your Solicitor has appropriately advised you of your entitlement and rights to occupy, particularly where children are involved. Given your intentions to move out, you should consider seeking a short-term lump sum of monies from him to tie you over financially to move into a similar standard short-let place.

I find it difficult to believe that any solicitor would provide the advice he has suggested.

Sent from my iphone – forgive for any spelling errors
*Please note this and any posts by me are intended to be expressed as my opinion with a view of being helpful and not to be taken as legal advice.

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