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Men who destroy marriages with affairs

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user1474193901 · 13/10/2016 21:29

Just wondering, do you think people that destroy their marriages for affairs go on to be happy? What is the likelihood of the relationship that are founded in dishonesty going on to be happy, healthy long term relationships? I'm trying to figure out if it's all worth it for them... What are your opinions and experiences?

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HopefulEm · 27/12/2016 08:46

Sorry for the predictive text errors, hope it makes sense

Figure17a · 27/12/2016 08:51

IMO a marriage break up is never as simple as "he had an affair"

So, it depends why the people in the original marriage were unhappy, what it would take to make them happy, if the new relationship does that.

Have to say I'm not sure I could ever feel secure in a relationship with a man I'd "taken" from someone else but again, reality isn't that straight forward.

TheNaze73 · 27/12/2016 08:52

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TheNaze73 · 27/12/2016 08:57

Posted too soon!

As Figure said, break ups are never that simple & the affair is the result of what's happened in the run up. It's never the right thing to do but, happens. Biggest causes for this are the obvious, sex & money worries.
I do think the relationships that are a result of affairs, probably have the same success rates as conventional relationships.

reallyanotherone · 27/12/2016 08:59

I actually know more women than men who have had affairs.

The one i am close enough to to discuss genuinely think she did nothing wrong. Yes, they had an afair and broke up the marriage, but 10 years later she has married the OM, her ex is in a new relationship, so it seems she thinks it all worked out for the best.

She seems to have forgotten her ex was suicidal when she kicked him out, he lost his home, children, life, and was treated like a bank and babysitter while he had to watch the OM in his house bringing up his children.

So i think they develop their own version of the truth, they did a bad thing at the time, but really it was a good thing, or they wouldn't be with new partners etc...

0nline · 27/12/2016 09:07

do you think people that destroy their marriages for affairs go on to be happy?

Probably depends on the individual and all the unique circumstances of a particular family separation.

Over the years news filtered through to us that our father was very happy with his new life in his new marriage. This alleged happiness he built on a foundation of our enduring sense of loss, ongoing pain and the ramifications of extreme upheaval at a time when it was likely to create a very different path to the future than the one we had been walking. Being plunged into poverty tends to alter the opportunities on the table. Motivations to "be responsible" ring hollow when one of the adults who drummed it into you was anything but responsible, and seemed to be doing better than anybody else in the equation. His road to happiness had the collateral damage of our path to the future turning grey, stormy and a lot more rocky.

So.. he was happy.

We found out he died via the internet. The day after we found out I took the phone number from one of the sites and called. In lieu of a death certificate, a funeral, something tanglible, I wanted to check this wasn't a case of us being put through the wringer based on crossed wires leading to inaccurate postings and unchecked Chinese whispers letting the news spread to a few more sites/forums.

The poor bloody woman who answered the phone damn near keeled over when she found out the childless man she had known for 20 years had 3 middle aged children. We talked for a bit (well, she talked, I mostly sobbed). and she said something...

"he always did have this air of sadness about him"

Maybe she made it up, because she thought it might make me feel better, that in hearing it I would believe there was some recognition in his inner recesses at the loss he had caused us, perhaps a loss he also felt.

Maybe it was true.

I'm not sure which is worse. That all of us hurt for more than 3 decades, he died with the hurt, and we can't resolve ours because... he' s dead now. Or that he hurt us terribly and went on to be happy , at what feels like our expense.

On one level perhaps it doesn't matter either way if they go on to be happy or not, cos it's not like them being unhappy too resolves the left behind people's pain.

On another level I think it might matter. Because I turn over what that woman said about his air of sadness like a pebble I am polishing to make a kind of diamond. Because it's the nearest I have got in 30 years to feeling like we mattered, he noticed what he caused for us, and maybe he was sorry.

Newbrummie · 28/12/2016 17:43

I hope he is happy and the daft cows he had affairs with are too, I genuinely mean that otherwise it's all been for nothing and nobody learnt any lessons.

Angrybird123 · 28/12/2016 20:55

tingtongtilly well thats nice. How did it work out for your cheated on partners and kids, if there were any? FWIW I also.left a marriage (no kids) for ON. We were together for ten years,married for two,had two DVd - then he left me OW and in the process said he never had trusted me because of how we got together. I think beginning a relationship in that way is never going to be a firm foundation. even before he left I always felt there was something just slightly murky about our relationship and I never ever felt ok about what I did to my first H.

user1479302027 · 29/12/2016 13:09

Online - that was so beautifully put. I want to give it to everyone casually considering an affair just to make sure they know what they are doing.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 29/12/2016 13:16

My ex cheated on his wife with me (didn't tell me he was married until we had had sex, and he was my first boyfriend). He left his wife (no kids) and got engaged to me, but then was abusive and awful to me for two years. He finally left me for a girl I went to school with and they are still married now, 18 years later.

I know he's unfaithful to her, and am fairly confident he is abusive to her (he was to his first wife and me, I don't believe that men can change) but she stays. He has tried to start a casual fling with me on more than one occasion but I am happily married and wouldn't jeopardise my marriage for him, even though I do have some residual feelings for him which I don't understand.

AndNoneForGretchenWieners · 29/12/2016 13:20

Also DH's first wife left him for another man. They were together for years - 20 or so - and got married. About 5 years ago he left her for another man after coming out. Odd situation, though, they still live together and are the best of friends. I don't think I could be that magnanimous.

gettingtherequickly · 29/12/2016 13:39

DH first wife left him for another man, it didn't work out, I don't think he was ready at 24 for 2 young stepchildren and it was certainly less fun when money was tighter and responsibility set in.

I think she initially struggled with the guilt of breaking up her marriage, and even blames DH for not "fighting for her". After 8 years she's now in a stable long term relationship and seems much happier than previously.

DH admits that they weren't particularly happy together, but he would never have broken his marriage vows.

LondonHuffyPuffy · 29/12/2016 14:44

Online that's a very sad story for all involved, especially you and your Mum and siblings. Flowers for you.

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