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Think I’m losing the fight against diabetes remission

21 replies

Ladymuck2022 · 06/05/2025 14:30

Hi,

Is it really truth they (medics) can tell from your toileting if you are diabetic.

They’ve ramped up their version of diabetic accu-check readings.

I’d previously lost some weight (slowly) on the injections (older daily ones to the most recent Wegovy) which may have altered the reading which my GP likely hasn’t comprehended.

I’ve now got a picc line in for a problem I’m in hospital over my foot/lower leg
Must be costing the nhs a small fortune now.

Going to turn myself into the pharmacy who was supplying the weight loss injections as I’m no longer confident I’ll be eligible to continue on the injections. There is blood thinners now going on, I’m so unsure how long it is going to take to get back to mobile. My brother had a diabetic complication on Mounjaro so I personally don’t want MJ.

I think I’d rather get use to the idea now.

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PotatoFan · 08/05/2025 00:22

If your blood sugars are high that will be obvious from just the smell of your urine or from testing it yes

Ladymuck2022 · 08/05/2025 07:35

Ah right so in some ways the care team are right. They keep saying do you feel like a diabetic. I keep smelling a funky smell when they release the catheter urine contents but then the antibiotics are mostly for treating lady reproductive parts.

A HCA tried to check finger blood on waking this morning at 6 but a more senior nurse sent her away.

My Dad has confused the situation somewhat saying I was wrongly misdiagnosed.
The surgical team promised me a Ha1bc on the 27th but that seems to be taking forever. It was said microbiology are looking at my case today with any luck.

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Ladymuck2022 · 09/05/2025 06:37

Hiya,

Today on waking a hca has got into my room, check finger blood which is 4 and now sorting orange juice.

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PotatoFan · 09/05/2025 23:14

Ladymuck2022 · 09/05/2025 06:37

Hiya,

Today on waking a hca has got into my room, check finger blood which is 4 and now sorting orange juice.

4 is normal not low

towhoknowswhere · 10/05/2025 07:40

4 is low!

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No it’s not, it’s in the target range

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/about-diabetes/symptoms/testing#What%E2%80%99smytargetrange?

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Ladymuck2022 · 12/05/2025 08:15

Thank you, I admitted to the weight loss injections use yesterday and they goes this definitely explains some things.

Hospital have said I can return to the WL treatment and I’d been doing the best thing for myself. In the meanwhile whilst in here the GP surgery want me to sign up to a 12 week digital weight management programme.

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towhoknowswhere · 17/05/2025 12:14

@PotatoFan absolute dangerous rubbish. Dh is diabetic and he’s legally not allowed to drive if he’s below 5 and generally waits until he’s 6 to be extra cautious about safety (for himself and other people!)

PotatoFan · 17/05/2025 22:38

towhoknowswhere · 17/05/2025 12:14

@PotatoFan absolute dangerous rubbish. Dh is diabetic and he’s legally not allowed to drive if he’s below 5 and generally waits until he’s 6 to be extra cautious about safety (for himself and other people!)

He legally is allowed to drive under 5 so long as he’s had a snack and hasn’t been below 4. The target range for before meals is 4-7 so at 4 pre breakfast you’d have your breakfast then drive. 4 isn’t a hypo though so no need for orange juice etc

notimeforregrets · 17/05/2025 22:42

PotatoFan · 17/05/2025 22:38

He legally is allowed to drive under 5 so long as he’s had a snack and hasn’t been below 4. The target range for before meals is 4-7 so at 4 pre breakfast you’d have your breakfast then drive. 4 isn’t a hypo though so no need for orange juice etc

I think you are mixing T1 and T2. Diabetes managed with insulin is "5 and 5 (5.5) to drive." And 4 needs an intervention as can turn into hypo very quickly.

towhoknowswhere · 18/05/2025 08:10

@notimeforregretsabsolutely agree! Dh is aware that anything below 5 means he’s potentially rapidly going down. At 4 he’s definitely not safe to drive and is spaced out and if you didn’t know he was type 1, he looks/sounds like he’s had a few drinks.
I definitely wouldn’t get in the car with him!

PotatoFan · 19/05/2025 21:41

notimeforregrets · 17/05/2025 22:42

I think you are mixing T1 and T2. Diabetes managed with insulin is "5 and 5 (5.5) to drive." And 4 needs an intervention as can turn into hypo very quickly.

No it’s not. Read the DVLA guidelines, it’s 4 to drive, so long as you’ve had something to eat if in 4s and not been under 4 in last 45 minutes. Identical rules for anyone one insulin for 3+ months whether T1, T2, T3 etc

PotatoFan · 19/05/2025 21:42

notimeforregrets · 17/05/2025 22:42

I think you are mixing T1 and T2. Diabetes managed with insulin is "5 and 5 (5.5) to drive." And 4 needs an intervention as can turn into hypo very quickly.

Show me the DVLA guidance that says you can’t drive under 5.5 to back this up please

Yennefer44 · 26/05/2025 14:03

PotatoFan · 19/05/2025 21:42

Show me the DVLA guidance that says you can’t drive under 5.5 to back this up please

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d8b92dc40f0b6098d33fefe/inf294-a-guide-to-insulin-treated-diabetes-and-driving.pdf

5.5 was the advice of a doctor and diabetes.org.uk says similar.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d8b92dc40f0b6098d33fefe/inf294-a-guide-to-insulin-treated-diabetes-and-driving.pdf

PotatoFan · 26/05/2025 18:12

Yennefer44 · 26/05/2025 14:03

Edited

This doesn’t say don’t drive under 5.5. It says under 5.0 eat a snack and under 4.0 don’t drive. Which is exactly what I said.

Yennefer44 · 27/05/2025 09:29

PotatoFan · 26/05/2025 18:12

This doesn’t say don’t drive under 5.5. It says under 5.0 eat a snack and under 4.0 don’t drive. Which is exactly what I said.

This is in the UK. Other countries though have different rules. Not everyone lives in the UK (I don't and we have different rules and different BG range).

This is an example from Ireland.
https://www.diabetes.ie/living-with-diabetes/living-type-1/driving-type-1-diabetes/

Driving and Type 1 Diabetes - Diabetes Ireland

Diabetes Ireland is the only national charity in Ireland dedicated to helping people with diabetes. We achieve this by providing support, education and motivation to everyone affected by diabetes. We also raises public awareness of diabetes and its sym...

https://www.diabetes.ie/living-with-diabetes/living-type-1/driving-type-1-diabetes/

PotatoFan · 28/05/2025 23:32

Yennefer44 · 27/05/2025 09:29

This is in the UK. Other countries though have different rules. Not everyone lives in the UK (I don't and we have different rules and different BG range).

This is an example from Ireland.
https://www.diabetes.ie/living-with-diabetes/living-type-1/driving-type-1-diabetes/

No one has said they’re in Ireland

PotatoFan · 28/05/2025 23:38

Yennefer44 · 27/05/2025 09:29

This is in the UK. Other countries though have different rules. Not everyone lives in the UK (I don't and we have different rules and different BG range).

This is an example from Ireland.
https://www.diabetes.ie/living-with-diabetes/living-type-1/driving-type-1-diabetes/

And that link you’ve sent is identical to UK rules. You don’t have to be 5.5 to drive you have to be 4.0, with a snack if in 4s. Certainly doesn’t say you need to be 5.6

“In each case if your blood glucose is 5.0mmol/l or less, take a snack. If it is less than 4.0mmol/l or you feel hypoglycaemic, do not drive and take appropriate action to correct glucose level.”

notimeforregrets · 30/05/2025 22:09

PotatoFan · 28/05/2025 23:38

And that link you’ve sent is identical to UK rules. You don’t have to be 5.5 to drive you have to be 4.0, with a snack if in 4s. Certainly doesn’t say you need to be 5.6

“In each case if your blood glucose is 5.0mmol/l or less, take a snack. If it is less than 4.0mmol/l or you feel hypoglycaemic, do not drive and take appropriate action to correct glucose level.”

It says 5 or higher.

Think I’m losing the fight against diabetes remission
PotatoFan · 30/05/2025 22:49

notimeforregrets · 30/05/2025 22:09

It says 5 or higher.

read the actual rules further down not the little picture that just gives a rhyme

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