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understanding mmol/L levels

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greeceiwwhereimdreamingof · 25/01/2021 11:05

my DH was diagnosed with high sugar post covid with HBA1c level of 48 which I think is right on the cusp of being diabetic. He's not overweight at all and he's fit and healthy but he's trying to get this down through life style and diet. We bought a blood sugar monitor but finding it hard to know when to test and what the results mean in comparison to the other levels test. So he tested last night 2 hours post dinner an dit was 7.1 mmol/L this morning pre any food so fasting it was 7.8 ? we were expecting it to be better when you've been fasting. When is the best time to test to try and work out if he's getting it under control ? any ideas and advice welcome - thanks

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TheStirrer · 25/01/2021 17:30

Hi @greeceiwwhereimdreamingof.

48 is usually the trigger for diagnosing diabetes and often sugar levels are high following infections so hopefully will go down with a few lifestyle changes to. In diabetic levels.

Start off testing just before eating and then 2 hours later and aim for a max of 2 mmol rise. Also test first thing as soon as he wakes before eating drinking. Fasting sugar levels are usually the last thing to come down so don’t panic!

I use my fitness pal to record food & carbs and then you can work out how many carbs he can cope with. Brisk walk after eating helps reduce the spikes for me. I also try to avoid snacking.

I found this chart useful...

www.diabeteseducationandresearchcenter.org/news/2016/9/23/50-shades-of-diabetes

Fingers crossed he sees his levels come down quickly.

greeceiwwhereimdreamingof · 25/01/2021 23:39

Thanks so much thestirrer so helpful.

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Crazycatstory · 26/01/2021 08:23

HbA1c is a measure of what his average glucose levels have been over the past 2-3 months. It’s looking at red blood cells (which have a 2-3 month lifespan) and calculating how much glucose they have been transporting round the body. It’s a good way to look at the glucose trend. The finger prick testing gives you a snapshot of what’s happening at a specific moment, so good to help spot what might push up (or drop down) levels.

There’s something called the dawn phenomenon which can happen in people with type 2 diabetes or pre diabetes which sees at night the normal hormone regulation go a bit haywire and increase production of glucose from the liver (perfectly normal, sets us up to wake up and get working) more than necessary, while also inhibiting insulin so it doesn’t use the glucose so effectively. Happens in the early hours, hence a higher waking reading.

There is some speculation that covid 19 may possibly be causing people (including those who don’t necessarily fit in the usual risk factors) to develop diabetes. It’s difficult to say, as it might just be that covid patients are being more thoroughly tested and so are being found by chance and were simply previously undiagnosed, or actually newly diabetic. Only time will tell.

Infection and illness can increase glucose levels as the body fights it off. Also, did your husband receive any steroid therapy while ill, as some people will develop steroid induced diabetes which will resolve after the steroids stop, but would potentially have affected the HbA1c level.

This chart (if I can actually get it to post) shows the average finger prick glucose according to HbA1c level (ignore the HbA1c in %, that’s just how it used to be reported). Of course, the likelihood is that in reality it’s not always that, but bouncing around above and below, though would tie in with the readings you have posted here.

understanding mmol/L levels
greeceiwwhereimdreamingof · 26/01/2021 18:18

Thanks crazycatstory really helpful, he was on steroids for a week along with IV anti biotics, he was in hospital for a couple of nights and his temperature was crazy for a week so maybe this had something to do with it. He had high sugar levels flagged about 7 years ago at 42 for HbA1c level but had worked hard at getting it down through diet and exercise - he cycles a lot and is ideal weight he's mid fifties. I hope he can get it down. When would you suggest a retest of the HbA1c levels? 2 months?

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Fantail · 28/01/2021 18:08

You’ve had some really good advice here.

Hb1ac is normally done every 3 months.

I get dawn phenomena. I find having a protein based snack (small slice cheese) works well. Also I always eat breakfast soon after waking. This stops any further rise. Experimentation is the key as everyone’s body chemistry is slightly different.

My other advice is to really read those food packets. Something whole meal isn’t necessary and less carbs than it’s white counterpart. It will be more fibre, but that just means it digests slower. Likewise gluten free doesn’t necessarily mean lower carb.

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