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MishaBukvic · 13/01/2023 09:45

I’m trying to learn how I can best help my dad, who I suspect has dementia. However, the biggest obstacle is how I can help someone who won’t let me help. My dad is refusing my help on most things, and he is point blank refusing to make an appointment with his GP. It seems we have reached an impasse and I’m not sure what to do.

My dad is 76, and is in general ill health. He lives alone in a council house. He has had one, maybe two heart attacks in the past 10 years, and has been treated this past year for bladder cancer. Over the past couple of years, I’ve noticed my dad becomes repetitive in conversations and he forgets what he’s told me. Most of this was put down to “just getting old” . However, over the past 6-9 months, this has become dramatically worse.

I’m not sure whether this helps but here are some examples of things that have happened that have raised concerns over the past couple of months;

Yesterday, he rang me at 6.30pm in distress because he had got on the wrong bus and didn’t know where he was. I went out to find him and brought him home. He had left home at 4.30pm to get a bus to the next village along (around 1 mile away) , but he couldn’t explain where he had been for two hours, and he couldn’t explain how he got on the wrong bus. When he realised he had got on the wrong bus, he got off the bus in the middle of nowhere near a busy intersection on the A1 , which is very worrying.
Increasingly forgetfulness and confusion. Within the space of 5 minutes, he asks the same question. It seems he genuinely doesn’t realise he’s already asked. A specific example in the past month is that one evening before Christmas, he rang me asking me to buy a specific item for his grandsons Christmas present. The following morning, I rang to say I had bought the specific item and would be going to his house later that day to drop the present off. He didn’t know what I was on about – he’d forgotten/didn’t understand that he’d asked me to buy the present. I explained , and he seemed to understand. Four hours later, I arrived at his house with the present. He had forgotten again, even though it was only four hours earlier we had the conversation.

He has been putting a lot of things down to general age/scatterbrained. He has lost the key for his pre-payment electric meter. Cannot find it anywhere. He has also lost some important paperwork.
He had forgotten where his glasses were. They were found in the local Co-Op supermarket. I have no idea how he had come to lose his glasses in a supermarket.
Continuously repetitive conversations. “Is {grandson} at swimming tonight?” “No dad, he goes swimming tomorrow”. Two minutes later, “where is {grandson}, is he at swimming” “No dad, he’s going swimming tomorrow, remember?”. Two minutes later “is {grandson} swimming tonight?” This isn’t an exaggeration.
Last week, he forgot his PIN number for his debit card. He just couldn’t remember it. We’ve ordered a new PIN (that is the one thing he let me help with, ringing the bank with him), and I have made a note of the PIN number in case he forgets it again.

I have tried talking to him, to try to let me help, but he doesn’t want to let me help.

I have suggested I make an appointment for him to see his GP, and gave him the option of me attending with him if he wanted me to, or if he prefers he could go alone. He refuses to let me make the GP appointment. When I attempted to dial the doctors phone number anyway, my dad became very angry and upset at me, and left the room and refused to speak to the doctors receptionist.

I have offered help with paperwork and admin tasks/errands. He lets me do basic shopping for him, but won’t let me become involved with any of his paperwork. I have tried the nicey-nice approach, and told him that I love him and I am here to help, it’s what familys do. He still wouldn’t let me help. I have tried a firmer approach, and told him that his pride is getting in the way, and to stop being so proud and let me help. That didn’t work either. I’m genuinely not sure about his finance situation. We’ve always been a ‘poor’ family and he racked up big debts about 20 years ago when I was a child, but I never knew to what extent. He could have £100 in his bank, or £1000, I genuinely don’t know (or even care – I just want to help).

He is becoming quite isolated and quite often will not leave the house for several days at a time. He suffers from IBS and during a flare up, he doesn’t risk leaving the house, so it is very hard to take him to any appointments.

Another difficult obstacle is that he is a very heavy smoker. I had hoped that the bladder cancer diagnosis and treatment would make him quit smoking, but he is smoking just as much as ever. Funnily enough, he never forgets to buy his cigarettes. He won’t entertain any discussion about cutting down his cigarettes (I have tried, for years, to encourage him to cut down).

I’m not sure where to go from where, or how I can help him when he is stubbornly refusing to do so. I’m an only child and he has no other family so there is no one I can ask to step in to help.

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MrsTag · 13/01/2023 09:52

Do you have Power of attorneys set up? If not then I would suggest you do so before he gets worse. My Mum was like this and the doctor said he could call her in on a random check but that it is up to her and if she is saying no then it's no. She did see him initially but then refused to go for any other tests. You have to be very persuasive and even tell little white lies.

Neveranynamesleft · 13/01/2023 10:16

I would agree with you getting power of attorney as soon as possible, you just never know what is around the corner or what could happen. There are two types, one for health stuff and another for financial. These can be done online and I think if your dad is in receipt of certain benefits then it may be done at a reduced rate. Can be done through a solicitor but it would be more expensive.

Just to add, if dad doesnt claim any benefits then it may be worth checking to see if he is entitled to anything, something like attendance allowance for example. It may help with things in the future.

It must be so sad and also frustrating for you to see your dad like he is.

MrsTag · 13/01/2023 10:40

POAs are not a fast process either. It takes months for them to be confirmed.

KangarooKenny · 13/01/2023 10:42

You contact SS and tell them of your concerns.

MishaBukvic · 13/01/2023 11:40

No, we don't have POA set up. It has been suggested before but yet again my dad is reluctant . I'm not sure why there is such a resistance, I'm not sure whether he's trying to "protect" me by hiding things from me or whether he doesn't trust me. (i have given him no reason to distrust me, btw).

One small step I tried to make to his life admin easier was his phone bill - I've offered time and time again to have a phone contract for him that i can pay direct debit. He refuses. He is still on pay as you go top up, and won't have it any other way. That's what I'm up against. He is painfully old fashioned and stuck in the 70s - my mum ran the home and all my dad did was go out to work all day and had his tea on the table every night, he was not involved in life admin at all at any time. Mum died 12 years ago.

It's getting to crisis point now so I'll speak to him again about POA. I can fill out most of the forms ready for him, to make it easier and less stress. Anything remotely stressful seems to send him in a tizz so I'll look at doing as much as I can with as little input from him as we can reasonable do.

SS is social services?

I contacted the local housing authority in 2020 for help in trying to relocate him to a bungalow instead of a house. They wouldn't speak to me because of data protection/I'm not on the tenancy , and - you can guess - my dad refused to engage a conversation with the council. (in fairness, the council just keep saying "sign up to the bidding website", not taking into account he is not computer literate. he has never used a computer in his life. I was tempted to sign him up myself without his permission and bid on bungalows in secret on his behalf but that seemed a step too far, but now I'm not too sure if it has become a necessity). I had offered to sign up to the bidding site for him, but I needed information from him regarding his tenancy details - he wouldn't give me them.

I'm not even sure he's been truthful with me about his cancer treatment. He was having an appointment every week and hasn't had one for months now.

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MishaBukvic · 13/01/2023 11:42

Just re-reading my posts and writing down has made me realise there's more to this than just 'forgetfulness' and confusion. : - (

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KangarooKenny · 13/01/2023 12:56

Yes, SS is social services. We had terrible trouble with MIL being very demanding yet refusing outside help, telling lies to neighbours, calling 999 for attention and company.
She had someone come out who could see what she was actually doing, in the end she had no choice but to have help, and this person eventually sorted her getting into a home.

LizBuin · 14/01/2023 11:33

I would contact his GP and explain what you've said here, that you know your dad won't make an appointment themselves, but that you're very concerned especially with the "wandering ".
The GP will understand and know how to deal with reluctant elderly people, it's quite common.

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