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The Damned United.

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wrinklytum · 23/03/2009 22:41

OK I think I am probably being rather sexist posting here but I didn't think there would be many female Cloughie fans on Mumsnet,unless they were diehard grumpy old Forest fans like me (Or even diehard Derby County fans-pah! )

I am SOO looking forward to this film.Even though it hasn't been portrayed as being favourable to Old Big 'Ead I am hoping that the writer will have included some memorable Cloughisms to bring back all the nostalgia of my youth stood on a windy terrace cheering for his Merry Men.

I once shook his hand and he told me to "Be,good Young Lady"

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Queenoftheharpies · 24/03/2009 08:33

I'm looking forward to it too.

Have you read the book?

mayorquimby · 24/03/2009 10:23

i would love to see the film, but i will never watch it out of protest that an almost completely fictional book has been portrayed as containing fact.
the only two truths in it are that brian clough managed leeds united and that his tenure lasted 44 days. beyind that it's a complete farce which has only been allowed to be portrayed because most of the people who have been sullied are dead. johnny giles one of the surviving members had an easy success against them in court for the lies they made up. and cloughs own family have been greatly distressed by the book.
so while i do think it will be greatly entertaining as anything based on clough would be, i really don't want to support the lies told.

FineNdandy · 24/03/2009 10:26

I heard his family on the radio the other day and they are not at all happy about this film

Queenoftheharpies · 24/03/2009 11:20

It's tricky though isn't it? David Peace wrote the book as a novel and makes it quite clear that it's not a true story. But at the same time because it's a novel about some things that really happened, it's hard not to draw conclusions about the characters in it.

mayorquimby · 24/03/2009 11:40

he makes it clear it is a novel about factual events. now i wouldn't have as much of a problem if he had written a book and said he'd taken inspiration from cloughs time in charge and gone on from their. with characters names changed etc.
but you can't just say "oh i'm writing a novel, it's a work of fiction." and then use someones name,age,profession,location and appearance and attribute fictional actions based on reality to them.
so with johnny giles for example, david pearce has made up completely fictional conversations,motivations,emotions and events and then attirbuted them to his fictional character in his novel. who also just happens to be called johnny giles,comes from ireland,is a gifted midfielder etc etc and then claim that you didn't intend for anyone to draw the conclusion that this actually happened.
i think he knew exactly what he was up to as he knew that many of the people he dragged through the mud couldn't be libelled due to being deceased.

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