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Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 22:44

Hello, I have a son almost 8yo . Because he never wanted to stay with his mother I have him 9 out of 14 nights that is week 1-5nights ,week 2-4nights. Summer holiday and all school breaks he stays with me 6 nights out of 7 ,with her 1 ,or nothing depending on how long is the break. Short breaks like jubilee, all 11 days with me . Summer holiday,she takes him 1 night ( Monday only)
When he was born she claimed CB and all of it. It stayed that way until now. My question is if I can claim CB based on time I take care of him. We never been to court so no court orders. School has both addresses, but I don’t know who is main one. They call me for permission for all sorts of things like to put my sons picture on newsletters etc and other stuff. GP is registered at her address as it’s same one since his birth. He is not registered at any dentist yet .She doesn’t pay me child support, not that I want it but for people who might ask on here, I’m not even sure if person who receives child benefit would even be required to pay . I would like to hear from people who actually had experience with this thing or know for sure . The last thing I want to do is to make a claim and be rejected only because she took him to gp last year for five minutes and I haven’t. By the way this arrangement that we have is in place since two years now.

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Mumdiva99 · 29/06/2022 22:54

Sorry no advice on CB. But why hasn't your son been to the dentist? He's 8 and should have been going for years. Please get him registered ASAP.

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Discovereads · 29/06/2022 23:01

CB should go to the parent who is primary carer…which appears to be you. The only time I’d recommend otherwise is if the primary carer is a high earner and wouldn’t get the money. In which case the other parents could claim it.

I think you’d have to contest the CB being paid to your ex..no idea how to do this but citizens advice might be able to help.

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dementedpixie · 29/06/2022 23:01

Yes you could put in a claim and the CB office would decide who gets it if she doesn't agree to the change in beneficiary

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Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 23:06

I called once HMRC but as usual they don’t know anything apart from telling u to send the form.

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Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 23:08

Guys please,advice from only those who done it . Otherwise thread will get ridiculous in an hour time people talking about all sort of madness. Sorry but I know how this goes.

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oldageprancer · 29/06/2022 23:09

What will you do if she changes the contact if you try to take the child benefit?

The only man I know who genuinely had his child over 50%, that's what happened. She immediately took the child, changed schools, changed the benefit back to her name, all just on her say-so, noone seemed to question it. He was pretty devastated. It took a long time to get it all sorted and his son was pretty messed up by the time he got him back (she also cut all contact).

Do you have an amicable relationship with her? Can you ask her to split it?

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Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 23:14

I don’t speak to her. She can’t cut contact. I reduced her contact with him since he was unhappy. I came to school and took him . Left her behind few times and she accepted it.

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Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 23:17

Guys please no stupidness. I don’t care about theories on how she can cut contact etc. she can do nothing! I know my situation. Please stick to Child Benefit advice

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Discovereads · 29/06/2022 23:37

Well since our amateur advice is obviously offensive to you, I suggest you contact a solicitor expert in family law and ask them about CB.

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Chickmad · 29/06/2022 23:52

My DSS moved in with my DH (his father) and me by his choice when he was 8.

His mother refused to give up CB so we put in a claim for it by contacting the CB office. We had to write why we felt we were entitled and also details of where he had stayed etc etc.

She could hold on to it for about 8 weeks I think and then it was awarded to us. She could have chosen to surrender it earlier but didn't.

I would suggest you make sure his primary residence is on his doctor's details even if you don't change his doctor.

Also it would be an idea to find him a dentist and an optician etc.

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Luidaeg · 29/06/2022 23:53

You're in the wrong place


Pay some advice

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Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 23:56

@Chickmad thank you. So it seems like they don’t care who’s taking care for child most days?

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Chickmad · 30/06/2022 00:12

They were interested in who was feeding the child, where the child was sleeping etc etc.
Basically trying to establish the main residence of the child I think.
As CB is a gateway benefit for a lot of other things like tax credits, UC etc

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Rich1981 · 30/06/2022 00:21

@Chickmad well he stays with me 9 out of 14 nights. Because he was unhappy with 50/50 two years ago so we changed it to what it is now. But GP address stays hers as it’s from many years ago,and I didn’t need to go and change it. By the way I don’t even know if I can walk in and just change it without her consent. The last thing I want is to be put on hold by surgery,and then get no consent feeling humiliated.

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Fabulousfanny69 · 30/06/2022 00:42

Rich1981 · 30/06/2022 00:21

@Chickmad well he stays with me 9 out of 14 nights. Because he was unhappy with 50/50 two years ago so we changed it to what it is now. But GP address stays hers as it’s from many years ago,and I didn’t need to go and change it. By the way I don’t even know if I can walk in and just change it without her consent. The last thing I want is to be put on hold by surgery,and then get no consent feeling humiliated.

Child benefit goes to the parent that decides the child's schooling - so I'd think that was you xx

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Fabulousfanny69 · 30/06/2022 00:45

Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 22:44

Hello, I have a son almost 8yo . Because he never wanted to stay with his mother I have him 9 out of 14 nights that is week 1-5nights ,week 2-4nights. Summer holiday and all school breaks he stays with me 6 nights out of 7 ,with her 1 ,or nothing depending on how long is the break. Short breaks like jubilee, all 11 days with me . Summer holiday,she takes him 1 night ( Monday only)
When he was born she claimed CB and all of it. It stayed that way until now. My question is if I can claim CB based on time I take care of him. We never been to court so no court orders. School has both addresses, but I don’t know who is main one. They call me for permission for all sorts of things like to put my sons picture on newsletters etc and other stuff. GP is registered at her address as it’s same one since his birth. He is not registered at any dentist yet .She doesn’t pay me child support, not that I want it but for people who might ask on here, I’m not even sure if person who receives child benefit would even be required to pay . I would like to hear from people who actually had experience with this thing or know for sure . The last thing I want to do is to make a claim and be rejected only because she took him to gp last year for five minutes and I haven’t. By the way this arrangement that we have is in place since two years now.

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Fabulousfanny69 · 30/06/2022 00:46

Rich1981 · 29/06/2022 23:06

I called once HMRC but as usual they don’t know anything apart from telling u to send the form.

Go on Gov.uk website x

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kitcat15 · 30/06/2022 00:50

Fabulousfanny69 · 30/06/2022 00:42

Child benefit goes to the parent that decides the child's schooling - so I'd think that was you xx

Errmmm I don't think this is right 🤔 🙄

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Gingerkittykat · 30/06/2022 01:47

I used to work in welfare rights.

You need to put in a competing claim for CB and they will decide who it is paid to if your ex says she wants it paid to her.

They use things like address registered for school/ Drs, how many nights each parent has the child, who does more to financially support them and what any court orders say.

Does his mum claim any other benefits like universal credit for him?

Can you have the school write a letter to say he stays with you the majority of the time?

Here are the rules they use to determine who is entitled to CB.

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clpsmum · 30/06/2022 02:17

Why ask for advice then just be rude when people respond. Go to the cab or a solicitor for advice

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Rich1981 · 30/06/2022 02:26

@Gingerkittykat It’s just seems like too much all this. Everything geared against a man . Situation should be simple. Am a parent, not someone who is trying to adopt strange child. My child stays with me 70% of the time, of course I pay more towards him , of course he lives with me ( doesn’t sleep outside my door) The problem is that noone knows anything. Even HMRC people get paralysed when asked questions. If they told me I would know what to prepare or give up the idea all together. Somehow it’s some kind of mystery as if am applying for adoption for gods sake!

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Gingerkittykat · 30/06/2022 02:51

You just need to send in the application form and respond to any letters and questions they have for you. I have seen CB taken for a woman and given to a man in a 50/50 situation. CAB will be able to help you once the process is underway.

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Butterfly44 · 30/06/2022 04:43

Rich1981 · 30/06/2022 02:26

@Gingerkittykat It’s just seems like too much all this. Everything geared against a man . Situation should be simple. Am a parent, not someone who is trying to adopt strange child. My child stays with me 70% of the time, of course I pay more towards him , of course he lives with me ( doesn’t sleep outside my door) The problem is that noone knows anything. Even HMRC people get paralysed when asked questions. If they told me I would know what to prepare or give up the idea all together. Somehow it’s some kind of mystery as if am applying for adoption for gods sake!

I don't think your listening to the advice. Complete the paperwork. Likely to be awarded to you going by what you say as you seem to be primary carer.

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IfIhearmumagaintoday · 30/06/2022 04:46

Have you tried to call CAB? It's only £80 per month.

Contact CMS the money is for your Son.

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oldageprancer · 30/06/2022 06:28

Rich1981 · 30/06/2022 02:26

@Gingerkittykat It’s just seems like too much all this. Everything geared against a man . Situation should be simple. Am a parent, not someone who is trying to adopt strange child. My child stays with me 70% of the time, of course I pay more towards him , of course he lives with me ( doesn’t sleep outside my door) The problem is that noone knows anything. Even HMRC people get paralysed when asked questions. If they told me I would know what to prepare or give up the idea all together. Somehow it’s some kind of mystery as if am applying for adoption for gods sake!

Well, I told you how it worked out for my friend. Not my fault you didn't like the answer.

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