I Was The Only Englishman In A Scottish Pub Last Night

[EricL]

Needless to say i was very embarrassed by the whole limp game.

I see McClaren has finally been given the boot by the FA this morning.

I have lived in Scotland for 8 years now and enjoy the banter that comes with it - but this was just toe-curling.

I think Scotland played with more conviction throughout the qualification and deserved to go through more than England.

yes, gutted scotland went out
but you do kind of get used to losing...

and sorry but was relieved not to have to listen to relentless meeja coverage go overboard on england at 2008 ..
i dont think scolari was ever gonna take the job tbh
england manager must be the most thankless task in football tbh
i actually think the manager should be same nationality as team

No stupid little St George flags on cars in June 2008!
Hooray!

oh eric i do think the secterianism in scottish football is abhorrent
encouraged by media too due to selective coverage

oh and i saw in a bookies window yesterday
rangers v falkrik
kinda made me laugh

It is a bit off the way Scots take a delight in every England defeat. The English cheer on the Scots, Welsh and Irish too, but Scottish schadenfreude gets really tiresome.

sorry ud
i take my pleasures where i find them

its ingrained and historical to dislike nations that lord it over you and cannot behave civily when abroad..

maybe we can go a few minutes into the first game without someone mentioning nineteen-blardy-sixty-six!!

was absolutely gutted that scotland didn't go through.

incidentally: IF scotland had gone through and england hadn't what would the coverage have been like? i think i know...

Yes UD - it does get a bit tiresome sometimes. I wish i knew about it all before i moved up cos i would have given the two Scots i lived with some shit if i knew!

I was surprised how they don't see the other nations or teams in the UK as 'home' teams when they play abroad.

One of the places i worked in, the staff all organised a sweepstake during an England match as to when 66 would get mentioned first. We all picked a minute and put our money in.

I won it at 17 minutes. They were so pissed off that an English guy won! I was waving the money in their faces and everything.

What made it worse was the fact that it was a Scot (Alan Hansen) that said it. (Or a pseudo Scot as they called him - "He's practically English anyway" was one 'insult')

No one talked to me for the rest of the day.

Ha! Get it right up youse!!

kinda liked all the little flags on the cars. at least it was exciting

I look, sound, act, eat etc as an Englishman, but am a Scot living in England with not a drop of Anglo-Saxon in me (all Celt and Pictish).

I couldn't bear all of the usual hype had England qualified, and the talk of chances of success, and general shoite of a team that consistently punches way below it's weight.

And Scots DO think of Wales, N. Ireland, and Ireland as well as "home" countries. Opinion varies on England. I for one bristle with pride at the sight and sound of a pipe band, and have a sort of bristling going on when the St George's flag is sighted. I have a sense of the history of the 'treatment' handed out by England to a much smaller nation over the years, and so accept some "illogicality" when having an emotional reaction to English things. Still have a little smile when they show the 1974 invasion of the Wembley pitch and the breaking of the cross bar.....

Scotland have a young, patriotic tightly-knit group of hungry young players, superbly managed to get the best out of them. England...don't.

Here's to drawing England in 2010 qualifiers....easy 6 points!!!

I'm not saying they are all like that - i hope i haven't given the wrong impression.

It's just that when we first moved up here we weren't living in such a nice area and had few local friends - once we got to know the place and moved house we now have lots of friends who are a little more reasonable in their outlook.

A lot of them like to slag England off as a kind of sport - but it's all just playful banter really. I give as good as i get anyway.

I have only come accross one person at the places i have worked that i could actually say was a bigot and treated me differently because of my accent.

your brave lads will struggle through though..

lol pan
nice to see you again! and
i didnt know you were scottish

your lemon biscuits are regular feature here, still go down a real treat!
(am suzycreamcheese btw)

Hi suzy...have lurked for a wee while...(doing RL things..) and posted once or twice as ClassAct..modest as ever!

Nice news on the biccies. Yes, am Glaswegian, living among the Sassenach..

glaswegian..hey, me too!

crikey ..sorry ..that sounds too much like the awful cbeebies show..

classAct hey, i like it!
became hairy for halloween, and cant face the rigmarole of rechanging...

yes, rl have plans to pursue big changes come hogmanay...though, on reflection that sounds like procrastination, which is something i am too good at

oh, and re the biscuits hope i've not infringed copyright, but ds's best friends' mother begged me for recipe...i did title it 'pan lemon fork biscuits' though, so hold that call to the lawyers, will ya!

A friend of mine at work passed on her receipe for a fish pie to me a few months ago, and it's adorable. I won't always be working with her, but the receipe will endure the fond memories of working with her. Love stuff like that. I passed on a receipe for a mushroom and salmon dish to a friend years ago, and we often have it in industrial quantities when together. A cement of friendships.

lol industrial quantities!
you sound like a nice colleague too

another Weegie amongst the Sassenach here!

I am so BORED of "1966" being cited at every opportunity. Can someone in the English media and football world please shut up about it. It was forty one years ago - has NOTHING happened in English football since? Even Archie Gemmill's goal (the nearest SCottish equivalent) was in 1978

I am disappointed that Scotland and England didn't get through. I love football and do support England (unless against the Mighty Scots , but as someone said, all the English football fans think the team has some devine right to be there.

whit and ye are complaining sounds brilliant im stuck doon the road , whilst yer up the road. which pub?waves to weegies

UQD has got a point. My SIL lives North of the Border and after 10 years she's sick of the "only-half-joking" anti-English jokes and moving South. Scots don't get any of that kind of stick in England. The Scots are pretty much getting independence via the back door.

On the subject of Scotland, anyone know about theStoregga Slides? If we had another one of those, it finally rid us of Bala-bloody-mory (and with a bit of luck Bits & Bobs and Riversea as well).

Scotland dies laughing.