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How do you pronounce the word 'poem'?

25 replies

ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:37

I know I should just get a life but AIBU to find the way so many people (including Simon Armitage all over my radio this week) pronounce poem

POIM (As if it rhymed with BOING) ???

Rather than the RIGHT way to pronounce it ie:

POE - EM.

When does oem rhyme with oim?

Why do they do it? Is there some linguistic reason? I find it really irritating.

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zippitippitoes · 12/04/2008 09:39

probably just accent

o say po im

S1ur · 12/04/2008 09:39

I say poe- em
but isn't it an accent thing like the fi -lim affectation

Oh and yes obviously YABU you obsessive noodle

MrsMattie · 12/04/2008 09:41

po-im here.

Bink · 12/04/2008 09:44

Don't think it's accent (poe-im with a short i, is fine & a different thing).

"Poim" is ... affectation.

Notice that the only people who do it are people who Know More About Poitry Than You Do.

BetteNoire · 12/04/2008 09:45

I say po-im
Not pome.

ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:46

I think I need to clarify.

Poe - im is actually more like it.

Its

POIM rhyming with BOING I don't like. sorry!

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Bink · 12/04/2008 09:47

Yes IpGirl, I understood. And empathise.

maidamess · 12/04/2008 09:48

I say poe -em. My scottish friend says po-yum.

ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:48

Oh Bink, thanks, you get what I'm explaining badly. It's the boing boing boing sound I don't like, variations on poe-em poe -im are fine!

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ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:49

maidamess, I think Po - yum would be hard for me to bear!

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Tnog · 12/04/2008 09:50

I understand too, Ipa.

It's the clipped affectation of saying it like that which grates,

but then I'm Irish.

ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:52

I will arise and go now, and go to Innisfree,
And a small cabin build there, of clay and wattles made:
Nine bean-rows will I have there, a hive for the honeybee,
And live alone in the bee-loud glade.
And I shall have some peace there, for peace comes dropping slow,
Dropping from the veils of the morning to where the cricket sings;
There midnight's all a glimmer, and noon a purple glow,
And evening full of the linnet's wings.
I will arise and go now, for always night and day
I hear lake water lapping with low sounds by the shore;
While I stand on the roadway, or on the pavements grey,
I hear it in the deep heart's core.

such a beautiful poe -im.

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Bink · 12/04/2008 09:52

The first time I came across it (it's more obvious when people talk about Poitry, with the "oi" as a dipthong not as two separate vowels - d'you get me?) was in the States with academic types being all very ostentatiously cultured & faux-European. I thought but thought it not my place to say anything. So since then I've found it fairly easy to dismiss it as an aspirational showing-off thing.

Funny how much effect these things have. You wouldn't have thought we'd give it head-room (ie, the mental version of house-room).

ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:56

I know bink but I do mind it too. It doesn't seem to have precedent in pronunciation does it?
I think the fairly odious poet Laureate says it in the good way, Andrew Motion.
But La Armitage on and on and on about his POITREE or POEEETREE and POIMS (boing boing boing boing)

I am a sad pedant and deserve little sympathy!

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ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 09:57

Yes it's the dipthong! I never know what that means but it's a mighty word, respect to La Bink!

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Bink · 12/04/2008 09:58

Thank you for not (pedantically or otherwise) mentioning the mis-spelling of diphthong there.

Tnog · 12/04/2008 10:00
Grin
ipanemagirl · 12/04/2008 10:03

Wouldn't have known the correct spelling if it were tattoed on my head!

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frankiesbestfriend · 12/04/2008 22:34

My elderly grandparents from Castleford say 'poim' (as if to rhyme with boing)
Lol that they are 'faux european cultured academic types'

Ledodgy · 12/04/2008 22:35

po-im

SquonkTheBeerGuru · 12/04/2008 22:36

poe-im

but people I know pronounce it pome - it does my head in

Spidermama · 12/04/2008 22:38

Po'um.

In Scotland lots of people say 'poy-yem' and I find it very irritating.

(Makes mental note to stop turning into mum)

Pillow · 12/04/2008 22:40

Def po-yem in Scotland sometimes

Flynnie · 12/04/2008 22:53

Lord have been sitting muttering all of the above ways. Dh is looking at me a little oddly.....

littlelapin · 12/04/2008 22:56

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