What happened to law in action on radio 4?

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The law show seems to exist?

It got cancelled about a month ago, with very little notice. I heard the last one by chance and Josuah Rozenberg was clearly upset.

There's a replacement called the Law Show - which I haven't heard yet but it annoys me just from the title - how can you have a show on the radio ? Grrrr

I can’t see why ones different to the other? Was the basis on cost?

Oh lord. Just tried it.
the presenter can’t really speak ? Wtaf.

I wonder why she’s seen to be better

Yes I just happened to hear the last episode too. It was oddly muted and clearly some stuff had gone on behind the scenes.

I imagine LiA was Joshua R's own format. So it had to go when they jettisoned him.

I haven't heard the replacement yet. Is the presenter(s) younger etc?

I do feel there is a demographic refresh effort going on again. The problem is they never seem particularly effective attempts to chase a new audience when R4 try them.

Sorry. I mangled that sentence structure. I hope it's decipherable.

This is the sort of thing that makes me rage at the BBC. Rosenberg was incredibly highly respected by listeners and the legal profession. As a lawyer I’d say he’s the only legal commentator who knows his stuff. But of course he has to be replaced by someone younger who cannot touch him in terms of quality. I hate the BBC sometimes

It's ridiculous.

Meanwhile flipping Question Time has Farage on again tonight for something like the 36th time. That is not the impartiality the BBC is supposed to show. Mind you, it's hosted by Fiona Bruce who tried to scold Professor Sir Robert Winston for believing that humans are a sexually dimorphic species. I've not bothered with it much since then.

The BBC's complaints process is ridiculous too.

Apart from radio three and various repeats on BBC 4, I don’t actually consume much BBC output anymore. Springwatch i think - that’s about it, recently.

Well thanks for stopping past

Sorry - not sure what you mean ?

Radio 4 is really threadbare after the schedule changes. Lots more repeats. Clearly cost cutting, so less drama. And an hour-long Media Show is just the media luvvies doing 58 minutes of navel-gaving. Law Show (show!) is just another example. Everything is 'accessible' and 'how to make the law work for you'. The only highlight is Free Thinking, but the Friday programme replaces 3 x 45 minute programmes a week on Radio 3.

I was a big fan of LIA. Joshua Rosenberg bought a lot of very heavy legal hitters to explain the law. It was not dumbed down, but explained complex things to an intelligent non-expert audience.

the Law Show is an extension of You And Yours coupled with Woman’s Hour. Mildly interesting but nothing of the gravitas of LIA.

Interesting when the BBC cut the show they said there were no plans for a replacement, then a few weeks later the LaW Show. Also, when the cull of LIA was announced, Rosenberg was given an honorary KC.

just the BBC being rubbish

I’d never heard of this new Law Show but I notice it’s on the same podcast feed as LIA. TBH I think LIA was very tired and probably only really enjoyed by lawyers, nothing against lawyers but you can’t really expect the bbc to make a show for each profession.

Oh just checked my podcast schedules and this law show is in my feed.

I started listening to law in action when I started my law degree. Was very useful and interesting.

But I shall give the new one ago.

She must be cheaper. She sounds like she went to the same presenting school as Nuala McGovern. Very difficult to listen to.

Radio 4 is in a continual state of being dumbed down and made awful. I was listening to Today this morning and yet again we had a tedious sector where Amol Rajan asked someone how they were feeling and they then emoted about their feelings and I got so fed up I switched over to World Service. It's just awful. We can't have anything decent any more - it all has to be ruined so that the thick masses can understand it and the terminally offended won't be.

I have never spent so little time with the radio on as I do now @cheezncrackers . There are a few good repeats on R4extra but even between the two I'm struggling to stick with what used to be my staple.

It would be interesting to know the listening figures and how many new listeners they're getting, keeping and how many they've lost.

Yeah, that would be interesting wouldn't it @LaurenAction? Who are they trying to appeal to now, I wonder? With each passing year more of the good presenters leave or are pushed out and more of the incisive, interesting programmes are either dumbed down or cancelled. It's so depressing that the direction of travel for programming on the BBC is ever more banal.

Indeed @cheezncrackers , so much of it just sounds so deliberately cheap now.