In 2008 I want to live a more culturally-rich existence.... with small children. How?

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Following on from my earlier thread about my rediscovery of Radio 4, I've realised that since the kids came along (eldest is now 8, DS2 is 5) I've let all my more 'cultural' hobbies and interests lapse to a large extent.

• I used to sing in a choral society, and also play in an orchestra (many years ago!)
• Used to go to the theatre more
• Used to read the Sunday papers from cover to cover and be 'up' on current affairs
• Visit galleries & museums

We DO try to do more culturally-rich stuff with them, but sometimes it's so tortuous I feel it's not worth bothering. We've tried the backpacks at the London Museums, been to a few kid-friendly theatre productions, hauled them around a few galleries etc. However it always seems to end up with DS2 whingeing, and us spending a fortune in the over-priced coffee/gift shop.

This is not what I aspire to. Is it possible to combine culture and children, or am I deluded in my aspirations?!

All tips gratefully received

Am indeed - though got nabbed by the Malware Crush virus du jour - fixed now, but have masses of extra security so running a bit slow.

The other thing I was wondering about was Marianne Dreams at the Almeida - on till 19th Jan. But - not with children, ironically enough.

A review of Marianne Dreams - the play - pointed out that the original book is really for teenagers (and female ones at that) and that it's probably not for kids.

Could you try museums outside central London or in areas with other more reasonably priced cafes nearby? For example, the Museum of Childhood is in Bethnal Green. Or some London museums are less dominant in their areas than others.

Another suggestion is looking for different types of attractions - the short museum visit with an outdoor place - a park with at least some of the following: a nice playground/cafe/ducks/deer.

Which direction from London are you, and which station do you normally come in to?

East Surrey way... come into Victoria mostly...

This afternoon my bil and his family came round for tea and cake after we'd all been to the park. Sil set up ds2's new Electric violin for him, played a few pieces (sounded great to me!) and played a little duet with him. Ds1 brought his French Horn downstairs and let his younger cousin have a blow on it. So I think 'culture' can just sort of seep into everyday life if you let it!

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