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New dance school advice please

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nstomo · 27/11/2019 20:11

I’m starting a new dance school soon and hoped parents and grandparents could give me some advice please. I’m planning on doing toddler classes aged 1-3 with parents or grandparents joining in, as well as adult classes too.
What do you look for when choosing a dance school for your children / yourself? What is most important to you?
What times suit working families, would you bring a child after nursery or on a weekend? What times are best in the week in the daytime?
What venue would you prefer? What would you be willing to pay for an hour class? Where should I advertise to attract grandparents as well as parents? I am in the U.K.
Thanks in advance.

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2pointfourmonkeys · 27/11/2019 21:34

Off the top my head from thinking how i chose my current school:
Clear contact information.
Easy to find info about the background of the teacher.
Even better a website.
Under 4's lesson either a reasonable time after your local schools close (eg 4.00) or class to finish time with enough time to get to a school pick up (eg 1.30), to accommodate siblings.
Or Saturday morning 9.30 onwards.
Easy parking

stucknoue · 27/11/2019 21:47

For under 3's there's two distinct markets, stay at home parents and working parents - the former would want mornings, probably 9.30/10am so any older siblings at nursery/school are out of the way (but finish by 11.30 for those in part time preschool). Working parents will be looking for weekends.

LIZS · 27/11/2019 21:58

Agree with@2pointfourmonkeys
Friendly website, introducing teacher/s with clear information (assume most will be new to dance terminology). Policies such as safeguarding, health and safety etc
Venue with parking and space to wait. Maybe a changing area.
Clean, warm, secure room
One local dance teacher runs classes for HE children in a late morning slot.
An hour class is too long for under 5s unless you have a break.
Maybe offer taster sessions and short initial commitment ie half termly.
Minimal uniform

itsgettingweird · 27/11/2019 22:01

For adult classes remember their are adults who can dance.

I've been searching for adult tap classes locally but haven't ever been able to find anywhere that doesn't just do beginners or doesn't put beginners and advanced in together.

LIZS · 27/11/2019 22:06

Adult tap classes are problematic because many venues are concerned about the damage to floor.

mclover · 27/11/2019 22:28

Look for ... is it the right mix of skill and fun? Eg for a ballet class you'd want to see some of the ballet basics, not just running around! Secondly, location (car park, near bus route), third time - does it fit in with naps. Lastly price - I'd pay more for better quality and location.

Also a big market is mums on maternity leave with a younger child, who now have the opportunity to take their older child to classes. So participation that a parent can do with a sling, or having a corner babies asleep in car seats can be put.

I look for classes via Hoop or my local towns parent / mum Facebook page or selling pages

Good luck!

itsgettingweird · 27/11/2019 22:30

Lizs there's plenty of adult tap classes In Mh area. They don't seem to have any that are just for advanced adults. They are either beginner only or all levels.

ThisBear · 27/11/2019 22:33

We've been to hour-long and half hour ballet at under-4s level and even for a ballet loving toddler, the hour was a bit long. Both classes were the same price but I actually felt like we got more value out of the half hour class. Kids not so tired and silly by the end of it!

Agree on the timings, 10am or so is great for mums to take the younger sibling to on their day off while the older one's at nursery, for example. The popular alternatives are after school pick-up time or Saturday morning in our area.

Yes to a good website, everything clear to find. Lots of dance schools have hard to navigate sites and it makes it a real pain to find the info you need. Keep it updated, another issue! And a great Facebook page can really help, so you can get to to date info out there and keep people involved. And makes it easy to share your classes to local FB groups.

A relaxed uniform might be good? I like having the right kit for the job, and my DC loves dance, so I wouldn't have minded getting a uniform leotard, but there were also plenty of people who were just trying it out as a change of activity.

I think those are basically two camps you might want to think about? Lots of overlap obviously, but there were broadly the dance people and the let's try this to fill the morning people.

ContraryToPopularBelief · 27/11/2019 22:36

For me it's separate classes for each discipline above say age 7.

It drives us bananas that most places do Tap, Ballet and Modern all together in one class. My DD just wants to do ballet!

ContraryToPopularBelief · 27/11/2019 22:38

Oh and a simple uniform requirement with and end of year parents sale so that uniform can be sold on and reused.

Because... The Planet.

nstomo · 28/11/2019 09:27

Thank you to everyone that has posted advice, really really useful and lots to consider.
Any thoughts on attracting grandparents to toddler dance sessions too?
Thanks so much everyone.

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LIZS · 28/11/2019 09:41

Aim it at parents, grandparents and carers (ie. Childminders)? Emphasis on fun movement to music rather than learning to dance per se. Do you need to limit number of children per adult, if the age range is 1-3 they may easily have more than a single child each. How much do you need the adults to join in?

AlexaShutUp · 28/11/2019 10:11

My dd has been dancing for the last 12 years at two different dance schools.

She started as a toddler at what turned out to be rather an austere, joyless school, but it was very flexible for tiny people - it was pay as you go for toddler classes, and that lack of commitment at that stage was very attractive. The teacher offered three consecutive half-hour classes for toddlers (ballet, tap & modern) and the parents/children could turn up for the first one and then decide whether to stay or go for the others. DD always wanted to stay for everything but lots of children left after the first half hour.

DD loved that school as a toddler, but I don't know whether she'd have liked it as an older child as it seemed to get much less relaxed as the children got bigger. The teacher was quite strict and never really smiled. I'm not sure how much fun the older children had.

As it happened, we moved house shortly after that so had to find a new dance school in any case. On the recommendation of a neighbour, we went with a relatively new dance school that had probably been going for 2 years at that time. It was quite a small school at that time, and did not have its own premises, so classes were held in different venues across the town.

Ten years on, the school has grown significantly. The teacher has been in her own studio for quite a few years now, but she has so many pupils now that she actually needs a bigger place. I believe that she also has waiting lists for most of her classes. She has achieved this growth without a website and without any advertising - it's all via word of mouth because she is so bloody brilliant. In the early days, I think she did give free classes to pupils who introduced a friend, but I reckon most of them would have been happy to recommend anyway. I would estimate that at least half of her pupils have jumped ship from other local dance schools, and they are all so much happier at our school. There are very few who move in the opposite direction.

So what is it that she gets right?

  • I think she genuinely loves what she does, and that comes across to both parents and children. And by that, I don't just mean that she loves dance, I think she loves children and teaching too.
  • She understands that the vast majority of her pupils are doing dance as a hobby, rather than because they want to be professional dancers, and that it therefore needs to be fun. She does expect a degree of commitment from the older children in particular, which is fine and all part of the discipline, but she understands that they have lives beyond the dance school and respects that.
  • Unlike other local dance schools, she doesn't shout at the children when they get stuff wrong. She is all about supporting them and nurturing their confidence. She will have words if they're messing around, but in a nice way.
  • She is very inclusive. All are welcome at her school, even in the older classes. Nobody is encouraged to leave because they are the wrong shape/have two left feet.
  • She has created a very supportive, non-competitive environment. There is no bitchiness/petty jealousy at all. I think this is partly because she avoids individual competitions/solo dances and gives everyone a chance to shine. It's a lovely, empowering and supportive culture.
  • She cares about the kids in a holistic way. It isn't just about the dance, it's about their overall development as individuals.
  • She is incredibly well organised and pays close attention to the little details that make a difference.

Good luck!

AlexaShutUp · 28/11/2019 10:12

Oh, forgot to add - she does have a uniform but isn't an ogre about it, and doesn't expect them to turn up each week with hair in buns etc!

daisypond · 28/11/2019 10:28

An hour is far too long for 1-4.
No uniform at all. People are not going to want to get tiny children changed, especially if they are coming directly from nursery. Just practical clothing.
What sort of dance? General movement and music?
Think about how it would work with grandparents dancing with toddlers- do they dance with their own toddlers or other people’s? What about the height difference if they are doing stuff in pairs? Are grandparents going to want to sit on the floor pointing their toes?
What’s your own dance training?

nstomo · 29/11/2019 14:13

Hi
I am trained dance teacher, ballet modern and tap. I am hoping for a class where the children dance with their carers to action songs and simple dance steps. At the toddler classes I attended everyone joined in as that was part of it. Do people see an issue with this?
I will also expand to do classes just with children too but slightly older. Thanks for the feedback.

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mummumumumumumumumumum · 29/11/2019 14:24

2 of my DD go to a dance school. What attracted me to the one they attend is the friendliness and approachability of the teacher. My biggest criticism and i think the most important thing i would like in an activity for my children (they have done several) and i always find it lacking is the admin. Making sure you communicate effectively with parents. Give plenty of notice and all detail needed to go to class, expectations set out clearly etc. This not being done ends up with parents chatting between themselves and chinese whispers spreading who knows what. If you have a show be clear and precise and give plenty of time for everyone to get everything sorted! our dance teacher is amazing but we have an activity we are expected to help at this weekend (all day Sunday) and we haven't been told all the details yet. I work full time and don't have the opportunity to drop everything if her plans change! Rant over! good luck i hope you don't end up with any horror dance mums!

AlexaShutUp · 29/11/2019 22:10

I agree that admin is important. Our teacher is incredibly organised and I do appreciate the clear and timely communication/attention to detail.

I think there might be a market for the kind of thing that you suggest, OP, but to be honest, I wouldn't have signed up for a dance class where the adults were expected to join in. It wouldn't have been something that I'd have been interested in.

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