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1 year old died in nursery setting. 6 arrested

45 replies

Goingforplatinum · 05/01/2023 21:28

www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-641783

Just awful. The manual you would expect from a childcare setting is your child to be safe. Those poor parents.

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Soubriquet · 06/01/2023 08:22

Scary that this could happen really.

Locally, an “outstanding” nursery has just been closed down for abuse of children. My children attended that nursery Sad.

2223x · 06/01/2023 08:26

It seems that Outstanding banner was old; its latest rating was Good.

otherwayup · 06/01/2023 08:30

@Kanaloa
Absolutely agree with this. Many years ago I was a nursery nurse and the worst nursery I worked in was rated outstanding. It was in a beautiful building with an utterly charming manager, who in reality was nothing more than a shrewd business woman.
I had hoped that things would have changed by now, guidelines seemed to tighten over the years, safeguarding awareness is better but stories like this are tragic and seem to suggest that not all settings are what they seem.

Itschristmastimeinthecity · 06/01/2023 08:31

Thoughts and prayers for this family. It's awful.
Hope they're never allowed to open again.

ZenNudist · 06/01/2023 08:39

This must be vanishingly rare and not a reason not to use nursery.

The worst horror story I heard was a child escaped from the garden at a nursery in my mums town. 2 or 3yo walked down the street but was stopped by a kind passer by and the police were called.

My nursery years ago was very lovely caring setting then over 2 children 3 years apart I was there for about 6 or 7 years and it changed hands to a corporate group. The atmosphere was less nurturing but clearly competent with strict rules and procedures. I looked at other nurseries where it looked a but scary like the kids weren't bring cared for.

katmarie · 06/01/2023 09:00

I saw this story yesterday and my heart went out to the parents. You place your child into the hands of caregivers, and you trust that they will come back to you at the end of the day. This scenario just gives me a cold dread feeling thinking about it.

I feel for the staff involved too to an extent (although not the management). They all absolutely must take reponsibility for their failures, but it's probable looking at the ages of the people charged, that they were not all management level, some were simply employees. You don't know what you don't know, and any member of staff not fully competent in safeguarding process should never ever be allowed to care for children, which means that management failed both that child and the staff employed to care for him. One of the people charged is only 20 years old. How easy would it have been for that person to take a stand against percieved safeguarding issues? Especially as I say, when you don't know what you don't know.

A horrifying situation all round.

NoahMelusi · 09/01/2023 08:51

This is just a tragic reminder for all parents/carers to never let your guard down or be too trusting towards those caring for your children. If you have a niggling feeling that something isn't right about your child's care setting; ask questions, probe, do unannounced visits! Please please trust your instincts - you are not crazy or paranoid if you feel something isn't right!

Unfortunately the system i.e. Ofsted, the nursery etc failed this little boy and his family.

Please read article for more information:

news.sky.com/story/six-women-arrested-after-suspicious-death-of-one-year-old-boy-at-nursery-12780716

NoahMelusi · 09/01/2023 08:53

news.sky.com/story/six-women-arrested-after-suspicious-death-of-one-year-old-boy-at-nursery-12780716

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2023 08:58

Lostinalibrary · 05/01/2023 23:03

What is shows is agencies such as Ofsted etc are not fit for purpose. Settings coast on previous reputations; they already know what they are going to do when they walk through the door. If you tick the right boxes you’ve got a good/outstanding. There are some truly dire outstanding settings out there.

Ofsted in schools is just a box ticking exercise and all about the paperwork so I imagine it is the same in Nurseries. I put no faith in Ofsted at all.

Workinghardeveryday · 09/01/2023 08:58

So sad, awful

WandaWonder · 09/01/2023 09:01

Yes perspective is needed I presume more children come to harm from parents and new partners than in the nursery setting?

NoahMelusi · 09/01/2023 09:10

We see and hear all the time about parents/their partners hurting children. Makes it all the more shameful that these were trusted professionals and 6 of them were potentially involved.

The news article emphasizes issues regarding sleep safety.

Please let's all continue to follow this story to educate ourselves on possible issues that occur at nurseries behind closed doors

vizzlepup · 09/01/2023 13:03

www.thescottishsun.co.uk/news/10023753/nursery-death-dudley-fairytales-ofsted/amp/

Looks like other parents had concerns about this nursery and the care of their children.

Just terrible, my heart goes out to the parents.

MammaWeasel · 09/01/2023 22:09

I think this statement is a bit of a stretch 🤔

"during his time there, the mum said: "He changed, became less verbal and now he has been diagnosed with autism."

Kanaloa · 10/01/2023 19:19

CaptainMyCaptain · 09/01/2023 08:58

Ofsted in schools is just a box ticking exercise and all about the paperwork so I imagine it is the same in Nurseries. I put no faith in Ofsted at all.

Yep, exactly the same in nurseries. It’s very difficult because they give you notice of them coming. The nursery is spruced, loads of extra staff found from somewhere or other, new toys and resources materialise. So a good ofsted has more to do with a manager that can say the right things than an actual investigation and representation of the nursery. They don’t really see a staff member or child’s proper experience. I think they should come at any time totally unannounced. Like in the middle of the day on a random Tuesday. And then they’d be more likely to catch nurseries if they’re understaffed or poorly performing.

IThinkTheresBeenAGlitch · 18/01/2023 12:58

ZenNudist · 06/01/2023 08:39

This must be vanishingly rare and not a reason not to use nursery.

The worst horror story I heard was a child escaped from the garden at a nursery in my mums town. 2 or 3yo walked down the street but was stopped by a kind passer by and the police were called.

My nursery years ago was very lovely caring setting then over 2 children 3 years apart I was there for about 6 or 7 years and it changed hands to a corporate group. The atmosphere was less nurturing but clearly competent with strict rules and procedures. I looked at other nurseries where it looked a but scary like the kids weren't bring cared for.

I chased a child up the street towards a main road once.
He passed us on the nursery pathway as we left a baby group. We assumed he was being followed by a parent but when no one followed him I left my child with my friends and chased after him. After trying to speak to him I ended up picking him up and carrying him back. Similar age to the child you are talking about. The nursery hadn't even noticed he was missing.

MShylene · 20/03/2023 15:43
MShylene · 20/03/2023 15:43
tothesea · 20/03/2023 16:13

Oh dear god that beautiful wee boy. My heart goes out to all who loved him but especially his parents.

Goingforplatinum · 20/03/2023 18:30

So so sad

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