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Did Maxine Carr know?

136 replies

ahunf · 20/10/2022 09:19

I assumed she did. I know it's not based on fact but after watching the Maxine programme I thought maybe she didn't know. The "no comment" at the very end made me think.

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notmyrealmoniker · 05/11/2022 04:31

At the time I wasn't sure, but reading about the abuse she suffered, she didn't know, but maybe had suspicions which she didn't dare confront him with. She would have been too terrified to go to the police as he held such power over her. I'm sure she wasn't complicit willingly either way.

winteryblues · 05/11/2022 05:27

Chickenwing2 · 05/11/2022 00:10

Regarding the fact Maxine used past tense- The reporter didn't ask her a question in the past tense, she was telling the story of the card Holly had written her when she said "that's the kind of girl she was."

I think she knew. But we will never know! I wish the drama was more clear if the "no comment" was actually real.

I'm not saying with 100% certainty but I did think the reporter said 'tell us about the girls, what were (WERE) they like?' or something such as that. She responded to that then went on to talk about the card.

Justleaveitblankthen · 05/11/2022 06:02

But I just can't get away from the Witness evidence of her crying at the contents of the car boot. They referred to it in the drama and I read the link posted by a PP.
For me, that's so telling.

Charlieiscool · 05/11/2022 07:11

Wasn’t it MC that gave him the false alibi to get him off the earlier rape accusation. If he’d been found guilty he wouldn’t have got the job that put him in a position to murder the girls.

AnnieJ1985 · 05/11/2022 07:39

If he wasn't a murdering rapist he wouldn't have been in that position either. It's not MC's fault.

Charlieiscool · 05/11/2022 07:59

Someone who lies to help a muse ring rapist has to carry some blame surely

Charlieiscool · 05/11/2022 08:00

If she kept him out of jail to murder and rape again of course she has to take responsibility for those victims. She is indirectly allowing it to happen

WeAreTheHeroes · 05/11/2022 08:07

Charlieiscool · 05/11/2022 07:11

Wasn’t it MC that gave him the false alibi to get him off the earlier rape accusation. If he’d been found guilty he wouldn’t have got the job that put him in a position to murder the girls.

Maxine Carr gave him an alibi, but he also provided DNA and the victim said he wasn't the perpetrator. By this stage, he'd been accused of rape several times, but had never been prosecuted.

WeAreTheHeroes · 05/11/2022 08:16

Charlieiscool · 05/11/2022 08:00

If she kept him out of jail to murder and rape again of course she has to take responsibility for those victims. She is indirectly allowing it to happen

She didn't. The big problem is that MC is being treated as though she was a murderer, not a woman in an abusive/coercive relationship. There was a pattern in IH's increasingly sexually violent behaviour and the accusations against him never resulting in criminal charges.

Why do you think he moved?

Propertyporn · 05/11/2022 08:37

I've just been reading about this case off the back of this thread. Huntley made a confession tape whilst in prison stating that MC did know about the murders and was worried about losing her job as a teaching assistant. This confession was given to another inmate in prison in return for pills that Huntley took to end his life.

Afterfire · 05/11/2022 08:43

Propertyporn · 05/11/2022 08:37

I've just been reading about this case off the back of this thread. Huntley made a confession tape whilst in prison stating that MC did know about the murders and was worried about losing her job as a teaching assistant. This confession was given to another inmate in prison in return for pills that Huntley took to end his life.

Yeah but he’s absolutely full of shit. And still alive, living as a woman in prison now.

WeAreTheHeroes · 05/11/2022 08:45

What's your source for that and why would you choose to believe it? Easy to blame someone else to get what you want in those circumstances? He's still a murderer who moved the bodies of his victims and lied publicly when he knew they were already dead. If he really wanted to confess to details that would help the families of his victims in some way he would talk to the police.

Propertyporn · 05/11/2022 08:48

@WeAreTheHeroes Oh I don't believe it. As pp said, he's a lying piece of shit.

It's a Telegraph article but behind a pay wall

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1546975/Huntley-revealed-all-in-taped-confession.html

HappyBinosaur · 05/11/2022 08:55

I’ve always felt for MC as although she had a part to play, her name became as well known as his name when it was him that was the evil murdering rapist.

In the press it was almost like MC was the new Myra Hindley and I think this was unfair.
MC was vulnerable and naive. Of course she would have deserved a punishment for her part, but many other people do absolutely wicked things and to prison and don’t become the household name that MC has. I still think there will be some people who think IH and MC carried out the crime together because of how it was reported.

OneFrenchEgg · 05/11/2022 09:33

I don't believe she had any part in the crime. I do suspect she guessed early on and covered for him. I imagine that the jury felt there wasn't enough to convict for assuring an offender so just went for the perverting the course charge.
However the phone calls then action , the cleaning, the car boot. It just is odd. And I appreciate people are giving her a pass for being in an allegedly abusive relationship but the kissing other men etc is also odd to me - I know pp dismissed my experience of being in DA marriage as 'everyone is different' but I cannot equate being scared of someone to also cheating on them.

winteryblues · 05/11/2022 21:57

Propertyporn · 05/11/2022 08:37

I've just been reading about this case off the back of this thread. Huntley made a confession tape whilst in prison stating that MC did know about the murders and was worried about losing her job as a teaching assistant. This confession was given to another inmate in prison in return for pills that Huntley took to end his life.

Where did you find that information please? I'd like to learn more about it

LizzieSiddal · 05/11/2022 22:55

This confession was given to another inmate in prison in return for pills that Huntley took to end his life.

Are you getting mixed up here, Huntley is still alive.

Propertyporn · 05/11/2022 22:55

@winteryblues In a Telegraph article linked upthread.

LaGioconda · 05/11/2022 23:00

Speakingmymind · 04/11/2022 22:27

IMO she knew, even if it was deep down. She was all about self preservation and stuff anyone else.

If that had been the case she'd have shopped him as soon as she knew, she wouldn't have stuck by him. She had an unassailable alibi, so if all she was interested in was self-preservation she had absolutely nothing to gain by protecting Huntley.

LaGioconda · 05/11/2022 23:03

Propertyporn · 05/11/2022 08:37

I've just been reading about this case off the back of this thread. Huntley made a confession tape whilst in prison stating that MC did know about the murders and was worried about losing her job as a teaching assistant. This confession was given to another inmate in prison in return for pills that Huntley took to end his life.

Her evidence basically made his conviction a certainty. As an abuser, he would have found it impossible to handle the concept of his victim gaining power over him. It's pretty clear that this was his nasty way of trying to recover some power over her.

Speakingmymind · 06/11/2022 01:58

LaGioconda · 05/11/2022 23:00

If that had been the case she'd have shopped him as soon as she knew, she wouldn't have stuck by him. She had an unassailable alibi, so if all she was interested in was self-preservation she had absolutely nothing to gain by protecting Huntley.

But then she would have lost Huntley. She was all about herself and what she wanted. Stuff anyone else.

GnomeDePlume · 06/11/2022 06:08

Huntley is never going to tell the truth about what happened. He will barter stories for whatever he wants at the time. If he said that today was Sunday I would assume that was because there was something in it for him.

That is the only power he has now. Plus he has to keep the narrative going that it wasn't really his fault.

LaGioconda · 06/11/2022 07:22

Speakingmymind · 06/11/2022 01:58

But then she would have lost Huntley. She was all about herself and what she wanted. Stuff anyone else.

But she'd lost him anyway from the moment he was arrested, which happened even before the bodies were found. If she was "all about herself" then shopping him at that point would have made the difference between freedom or otherwise.

Propertyporn · 06/11/2022 07:41

LizzieSiddal · 05/11/2022 22:55

This confession was given to another inmate in prison in return for pills that Huntley took to end his life.

Are you getting mixed up here, Huntley is still alive.

Sorry should have said in an attempt to end his life.

Speakingmymind · 06/11/2022 08:13

LaGioconda · 06/11/2022 07:22

But she'd lost him anyway from the moment he was arrested, which happened even before the bodies were found. If she was "all about herself" then shopping him at that point would have made the difference between freedom or otherwise.

She tired to stop him being arrested, giving a false alibi. She did that despite, in my opinion, deep down knowing he did this. All about herself.

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