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Pub noise and village nuisances

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lotusbell · 08/08/2020 09:49

I live on a relatively busy road through the centre of a large village. Crossroads type set up and I'm near the junction. I live in a row of terraces and there is a pub opposite.
It has always been noisy - I lived on the pub side years ago and it was nowhere near as noisy as it is now. Landlord took over and made it into a live music venue. Pub has no outdoor area but opens onto the pavement outside which is raised from the road and has picnic benches outside.
Since pubs have reopened it is doing booming business which is fair enough. However, the noise levels are ridiculous, obviously exaccerbated by the nice weather.
Clientele is very rowdy and in the past I've often leant out of the window and shouted at people to shut up. Since pubs reopened, there have been large groups of youths drinking, shouting etc and at the moment, it's not always restricted to the weekend.
At midnight, landlord let's the last few inside and shuts the front door so it quietens a bit but often pumping music inside. Closes at 1am.
My son and stepdaughter (when visiting) sleep in the front, our room is in the back but we still need to keep the window shut as the sound really carries. I often sleep in the front as OH is a heavy snorer so know exactly how loud it is.

In addition to this, this road has seen an increase in traffic with mopeds, scooters, bikes with loud exhausts and cars driving by and beeping horns loudly, especially at the people outside the pub - this can be eay morning midday and in the night.
My next door neighbour rang the landlord last week ask him to do something about the noise which he said he would. He makes no effort to ask his customers to be respectful of the fact it is a residential area - houses at the back, side and opposite.
I rang him last night just after 11 and asked him to tell them to quieten down which he did but they paid little attention. Said youths then proceeded to hang around on the street til gone 1am, not drinking but arguing, fighting and generally being noisy.
I.am dreading tonight as it will probably be the same. Saw neighbour this morning and told her. They sleep at the back but are forced up to bed quite early to avoid the noise at the front and she is just as fed up as I am and is going to ring again.
What can we do about this? Someone in my local Facegroup page has encouraged people to report as antisocial behaviour but this is more for the speeding and loud cars and bikes which the whole village is suffering from.
I think landlord needs to be more proactive about what is going on outside his pub - he comes out to collect empties but is otherwise inside and obviously oblivious to the noise outside unless pointed out to him. Am tempted to just ring the pub every time until he gets fed up of me. Is it not part of your licensing terms to be aware of and be able to manage what goes on with your customers inside and outside the pub? Should there be no noise after 11pm, or is it later at the weekend?

I'm really tired today, please just useful advice, I don't need any "you chose to live opposite a pub' type comments.

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AriettyHomily · 08/08/2020 10:45

I'm sorry but what can you do apart from move? If they are licensed for people drinking outside (are they?), they aren't doing anything wrong.

lotusbell · 08/08/2020 11:18

No, I dont think there's a lot we can do unfortunately. No idea about the details of their license or how to find out. Not sure Environmental health would do much either, their guidance seems to focus more on loud music, regularly and after midnight. The pub is a live music pub but none on.at the moment due to social distancing rules.

Think I will just have to keep on at the landlord and hope he works with us.

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Moondust001 · 08/08/2020 11:23

So you choose to live opposite a pub on a busy crossroads, and you object to pub noise and traffic. And you don't want people to point that out?

Rayne30 · 08/08/2020 11:26

Hey OP
Having been in these shoes for like 10 years, the only sound advice is to move. Yes it’s a pain in the arse, but I can’t tell you how much it’s helped my anxiety and sleep.

Landlords don’t give a shit. He’ll just run his business and go home to peace. Who knows, he might have to end up selling up and you’ll end up with the same cycle, if not worse.

When I moved into our flat facing a pub the noise levels were fine, they weren’t an issue. When the pub changed hands it just got out of control. Summer and Christmas were the worst times.

gutentag1 · 08/08/2020 11:33

People are dicks, and the landlord is not going to stand outside shushing everyone.

All you can do is move.

abstractzebra · 08/08/2020 11:46

I have a pub near me and since it has reopened, the noise levels have definitely increased as if everyone is determined to party harder!
There's certain people who we can tell are there because of their loud voices and annoying laughter (hyena woman!).
There's also some really drunk people about even though I thought pubs were no longer allowed to let people get really drunk and were supposed to send them away.
There are also people who bring children and are there for hours. Again, I thought this wasn't allowed anymore and there was a limit to how much drinking was allowed when in charge of children.
Not much help to you but just wanted to offer my sympathy.
I did get my sister to check how much outside seating they were allowed as she works for a local council (not mine) as they kept adding more tables on land that doesn't belong to them but since Covid, they've now reduced it significantly due to social distancing.

aModernClassic · 08/08/2020 11:49

You could contact your local
Council. I had this problem and they advised to keep a diary of peak noise etc. If they get enough complaints they will look into it.

lotusbell · 08/08/2020 13:08

@Moondust001, I don't need it pointing out but yes, fully expect it. Thanks for your helpful contribution.

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lotusbell · 08/08/2020 13:10

Thanks everyone for advice, its definitely worse than it was, as previously said, like people are going to extremes after lockdown. I don't expect people to live as hermits of course, would just appreciate a bit of respect for those who have to live with it!

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KoalasandRabbit · 08/08/2020 14:06

If they are correctly licenced for music and operating agreed opening hours I don't think there's any 11pm rule AFAIK. For fighting you can call police if its getting out of hand.

You can complain to council about noise but if you own think it appears when you try to sell.

It's really difficult and feel for you.

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