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Is this normal when writing a story

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johann12 · 05/08/2024 02:19

I can't seem to set out the whole plot, I just start writing then the idea and plot development will just come to me in bits and pieces. I'm not entirely sure where I'm going with it

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TwoLeftSocksWithHoles · 05/08/2024 06:41

Sounds like the story of my life! 😃

Burntout101 · 05/08/2024 06:42

I remember reading Roald Dahl's account of how he wrote and it sounded similar, the plot came to him as he went along.

Sethera · 05/08/2024 06:54

Yes, I think this is very common. It's part of the first draft process; the plot and the characters taking on a life of their own is a good thing, a sign that your story is flowing naturally. You can refine the plot in your later drafts if it needs to be tightened and foreshadowed in your text.

StellaOlivetti · 05/08/2024 07:05

It’s how I do it! For short stories forming the ideas into a coherent whole is quite a quick process, but writing my novel was an act of faith that took years.

Bastide · 05/08/2024 07:12

Normal for some, not normal for others. Entirely normal for me — I’m about 60k words into a 80k ish novel, and don’t know how it will end.

larkstar · 05/08/2024 09:05

Stephen King’s “On Writing” does contain some pithy and unrefined advice about (his) novel writing. I tried reading this book twice before I actually pushed through and read the whole thing - I failed to pay attention to the words “A Memoir…” in the subtitle so quickly became disillusioned with all of the talk about his backstory - you have to get half way through before he starts talking about writing and you are plagued throughout by his personal anecdotes that keep reappearing in the text like zombies: seriously I have thought about stripping his book down to nothing but his writing advice and shoving it up on Amazon, anyway… among many useful (imho) insights he says:

“The situation comes first. The characters—always flat and unfeatured, to begin with—come next. Once these things are fixed in my mind, I begin to narrate. I often have an idea of what the outcome may be, but I have never demanded of a set of characters that they do things my way. On the contrary, I want them to do things their way. In some instances, the outcome is what I visualized. In most, however, it’s something I never expected. For a suspense novelist, this is a great thing. I am, after all, not just the novel’s creator but its first reader. And if I’m not able to guess with any accuracy how the damned thing is going to turn out, even with my inside knowledge of coming events, I can be pretty sure of keeping the reader in a state of page-turning anxiety. And why worry about the ending anyway? Why be such a control freak? Sooner or later every story comes out somewhere.”

And

“You may wonder where plot is in all this. The answer—my answer, anyway—is nowhere. I won’t try to convince you that I’ve never plotted any more than I’d try to convince you that I’ve never told a lie, but I do both as infrequently as possible. I distrust plot for two reasons: first, because our lives are largely plotless, even when you add in all our reasonable precautions and careful planning; and second, because I believe plotting and the spontaneity of real creation aren’t compatible. It’s best that I be as clear about this as I can—I want you to understand that my basic belief about the making of stories is that they pretty much make themselves. The job of the writer is to give them a place to grow. If you can see things this way (or at least try to), we can work together comfortably. If, on the other hand, you decide I’m crazy, that’s fine. You won’t be the first.“

HTH

DonnaGiovanna · 05/08/2024 09:15

This is me too, and I think about my story so much that the ending will crystallise at about 50-60k words - it just pops up when I'm walking somewhere. I can't plot in the accepted sense at all - used to bother me but now I've accepted it.

CoffeeAndWrite · 05/08/2024 15:58

It's how I write too. I don't know the plot when I start. I maybe know a few chapters or events but never the whole thing. It just comes out as I write.

johann12 · 05/08/2024 17:07

That's reassuring to read these thank you

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MargaretThursday · 05/08/2024 18:19

It's known as pantsing 🤣 as opposed to plotting.

I write best like that. I know vaguely how it ends, but each chapter ends with normally me not knowing what will happen next. I'll be writing and thinking "oh that's why in chapter 3 he said this".

Occasionally something comes up which means I have to alter a bit in the back chapters but surprisingly rarely.

Elyalbert · 07/08/2024 17:03

larkstar · 05/08/2024 09:05

Stephen King’s “On Writing” does contain some pithy and unrefined advice about (his) novel writing. I tried reading this book twice before I actually pushed through and read the whole thing - I failed to pay attention to the words “A Memoir…” in the subtitle so quickly became disillusioned with all of the talk about his backstory - you have to get half way through before he starts talking about writing and you are plagued throughout by his personal anecdotes that keep reappearing in the text like zombies: seriously I have thought about stripping his book down to nothing but his writing advice and shoving it up on Amazon, anyway… among many useful (imho) insights he says:

“The situation comes first. The characters—always flat and unfeatured, to begin with—come next. Once these things are fixed in my mind, I begin to narrate. I often have an idea of what the outcome may be, but I have never demanded of a set of characters that they do things my way. On the contrary, I want them to do things their way. In some instances, the outcome is what I visualized. In most, however, it’s something I never expected. For a suspense novelist, this is a great thing. I am, after all, not just the novel’s creator but its first reader. And if I’m not able to guess with any accuracy how the damned thing is going to turn out, even with my inside knowledge of coming events, I can be pretty sure of keeping the reader in a state of page-turning anxiety. And why worry about the ending anyway? Why be such a control freak? Sooner or later every story comes out somewhere.”

And

“You may wonder where plot is in all this. The answer—my answer, anyway—is nowhere. I won’t try to convince you that I’ve never plotted any more than I’d try to convince you that I’ve never told a lie, but I do both as infrequently as possible. I distrust plot for two reasons: first, because our lives are largely plotless, even when you add in all our reasonable precautions and careful planning; and second, because I believe plotting and the spontaneity of real creation aren’t compatible. It’s best that I be as clear about this as I can—I want you to understand that my basic belief about the making of stories is that they pretty much make themselves. The job of the writer is to give them a place to grow. If you can see things this way (or at least try to), we can work together comfortably. If, on the other hand, you decide I’m crazy, that’s fine. You won’t be the first.“

HTH

I find this very reassuring to read. I’m about 30k words into a novel I’m writing (my first) which I plotted in advance assiduously. I really wanted to make sure I knew exactly who was who, and what was what, before I began. In spite of this, as soon as I started writing the story began to veer away from the plot line as if it has a mind of its own. I drag the story back where I need it to go every now and then, but before I know it, it’s off on its own again. I’m just going to struggle on to the end then see what I’ve got I think!

SmugglersHaunt · 17/08/2024 12:28

I find it comes to me as I go along, but I always plot the inciting incident, Act 1 and 2 turning points and climax, then I fill in the scenes as I go along. I read somewhere that knowing where it ends is the most important thing!

Grammarnut · 22/08/2024 15:33

It depends. Sometimes the plot comes as you write - then will need editing - sometimes you need an outline. I am about to finish my late DH's novel, which means write most of it. I need a timeline and an outline of the plot, because it is not my story. *
One caution with 'plot as you go' - you can end up with a very unwieldy novel that way, with numerous sub-plots to resolve.
*I am doing this because he intended to finish it, did all the research, and then died without any warning one lunchtime.

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